Split Thread DEI in the US

[theprestige]

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Cool, now show us the original text the Esquire is pretending to reference.

 

[Trausti]

What's a DEI purity test? It sounds like from what you've posted that they were expected to understand and agree with the universities policies and processes to get a job there?

No. They had to spout the acceptable diversity statement or not get considered. I'm sure you were aware of that. And repeating a politically correct catechism has nothing to do with merit.

 

[Trausti]

With apologies to Bill Watterson:

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This really does show that DEI is just racist. Is there any example of diversity, equity, and inclusion used to include a White person or "gasp" a straight White male (who doesn't wear a dress)? Of course, not. DEI is not about diversity, equity, or inclusion. It's a way for racists bigots to hide their racist bigotry.

 

[Trausti]

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Neat. Just makes stuff up. I'm sure this Rashid guy was confident that his readers wouldn't bother trying to verify any of it.

 

[theprestige]

With apologies to Bill Watterson:

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Yes, we know what the good intention was.

We also know - and knew all along - what the obvious failure mode was.

Instead of taking steps to mitigate against the obvious failure mode, proponents simply accused anyone who expressed concern of being racist.

So let's move beyond the good intention, and address the practical challenges and the costs of getting it wrong.

With apologies to Michael Mann, screenwriter for the movie Heat: "Anti-DEI folks can hit or miss. DEI proponents can't miss even once." Because every single scandal involving an unqualified minority hire just makes DEI programs look that much worse, that much more political, that much more racist.

 

[Trausti]

The diversity hypothesis: A rapid scoping review of diversity and scientific output and impact in the natural and social sciences

Overall, the results indicate that there is little empirical evidence that diversity, as defined narrowly by demographic or identity diversity, improves scientific output and impact.

 

[arthwollipot]

It's amazing how anti-DEI initiatives can be blatantly and openly white supremacist, and they call us racist.

What hypocrites.

 

[Trausti]

It's amazing how anti-DEI initiatives can be blatantly and openly white supremacist, and they call us racist.

What hypocrites.

I don't know if hypocrite is the correct word, but the notion that DEI is about diversity and inclusion is just a lie.

 

[arthwollipot]

I don't know if hypocrite is the correct word, but the notion that DEI is about diversity and inclusion is just a lie.

You've eaten the rightist white supremacist conspiracy theory propaganda enthusiastically, haven't you?

 

[theprestige]

You've eaten the rightist white supremacist conspiracy theory propaganda enthusiastically, haven't you?

I wonder how many DEI proponents sincerely believe that a diverse, equitable, and inclusive workplace necessarily includes a white male heterosexual Christian viewpoint.

 

[gabeygoat]

Plus, even in the USA, at the moment there are literally THREE TIMES more whites living in poverty than blacks. WTH generational wealth do their kids benefit from, when their parents are subsiding on food stamps? Why punish THEM?

there about 4.5 times more white/non-Hispanic people than black. so it's disproportionate

 

[Darat]

No. They had to spout the acceptable diversity statement or not get considered. I'm sure you were aware of that. And repeating a politically correct catechism has nothing to do with merit.

You are saying the same thing as I did - they have to agree to follow the university policies etc.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

You are saying the same thing as I did - they have to agree to follow the university policies etc.

No, it's nothing like that. Agreeing to follow policies would be a form to sign, not a part of your grade, much less a bigger one than your other qualifications. Much less having to pass a DEI exam more than once, at every step. The latter is just mind bogglingly stupid.

 

[ahhell]

It's amazing how anti-DEI initiatives can be blatantly and openly white supremacist, and they call us racist.

What hypocrites.

Both can be true.

 

[plague311]

Both can be true.

It would still be hypocritical even if both are true.

 

[Darat]

No, it's nothing like that. Agreeing to follow policies would be a form to sign, not a part of your grade, much less a bigger one than your other qualifications. Much less having to pass a DEI exam more than once, at every step. The latter is just mind bogglingly stupid.

Seems a good test of their communication skills and their agreement with the university policies, goals, aspiration etc.

 

[theprestige]

You are saying the same thing as I did - they have to agree to follow the university policies etc.

No, it's nothing like that. Agreeing to follow policies would be a form to sign, not a part of your grade, much less a bigger one than your other qualifications. Much less having to pass a DEI exam more than once, at every step. The latter is just mind bogglingly stupid.

It's not a proper religion until you've got the dogma, heresy, and autos-da-fe.

 

[ahhell]

It would still be hypocritical even if both are true.

I've never understood why people care so much about hypocrisy. I think the racism is bad, regardless of any hypocrisy about it.

 

[plague311]

I've never understood why people care so much about hypocrisy. I think the racism is bad, regardless of any hypocrisy about it.

I would say, judging by art's posting history, he is also of the mindset that racism is bad. It's bad no matter which way it goes, but it has heavily leaned one way for a few centuries or more. Pointing out the hypocrisy is part of the process.

There is also the fact that people pushing DEI policies are not intentionally trying to hurt anyone, or take opportunities away from white people. That's just some ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ that a bunch of white, whiny ass hats scream because they don't get a leg up based on nothing more than their skin color.

That being said, look at the vast majority of folk that are vehemently against DEI initiatives. Do you see a common pattern among them? Look at all of the other threads that tackle the subject matter of equal rights, whether it be LGBTQ+, racism, and the like, and you'll notice a trend. You'll see the same people in those threads screaming that any form of equality for others means less for them and, I assure you, they're all white people.

 

[thaiboxerken]

It's amazing how anti-DEI initiatives can be blatantly and openly white supremacist, and they call us racist.

What hypocrites.

Many white supremacists don't consider themselves racist, they honestly believe that people of color are inferior and that there is science that proves it.