Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[beachnut]

What's ELT?

What is an ELT? emergency locator transmitter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distress_radiobeacon

When a plane crashes the ELT is activated and you can locate the crash scene. 911 truth is making up false claims about what was reported back in 2001. Just to warn you up to 98 percent of 121.5 ELT signals are false, not accidents, not emergencies.

What some of the false ones are, small planes that are sitting on the ramp and the ELT is accidentally going. All pilots usually are monitoring 121.5 for emergencies, and it is a back up if your radio fails and you don't know it; ATC will call you on 121.5. Thus, when a beacon goes off, everyone within line of sight can hear it, and they report it.

ELTs in relation to 911 would mean little. The timing of the ELT reports are not in sync with impacts, so they mean nothing.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-...es-crashed-minutes-flights-11-and-175-hit-wtc

911 blogger has some idiotic lies about 911 and ELTs.

Implied LIE! from 911 blogger.

ELT SHOULD ONLY GO OFF IN EVENT OF A CRASH

Yes, the goal is for ELTs to go off "only" in Emergencies! But in the real world over 98 percent of the reports are false, not emergencies, not crashes.

The ELT is being used to make up new lies based on lack of knowledge, to fool the gullible. Shoestring is making up new doubts based on his own ignorance mixed with ELT information.

That being said, severe turbulence or severe fluter in the tail could cause the beacon to fail or go off. An ELT heard by pilots could be 100 or 200 miles away, any direction. Did anyone on 911 do a DF on the signal?

911 truth is like living with a 3 year old who never gets older; each new discovery of something, anything, becomes the next smoking gun, the next anomaly that has to be investigated to expose the bad guys.

Things 911 truth liars could answer themselves. What is the G load an ELT can take. Flight 11 crashed at 470 mph, not a normal crash; will the ELT work? Flight 175 impacted the WTC at 590 mph, is the ELT going to work? Pilots try to crash at the slowest speed without stalling, 911 the terrorists tired to hit at speeds as high as they could handle.

Is this the first time the ELT has come up? It was not hidden! This is from news reports from 2001. How did the experts at p4t miss this smoking gun delusion?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Guys,

I am taking this opportunity to say farewell...sort of. I didn't want to annoy Red or others with a seperate thread, so I am putting it in here...the only thread it fits in.
<snip>

Signing off....transmission ends....

TAM

I don't think you'll miss that much... I'll have to take a break from the forum stuff soon probably due to my personal affairs. College projects and thesis are demanding more of my time and I favor those over my little online hobbies

 

[Dave Rogers]

T.A.M.,

You're doing the right thing. DFS is best treated by mixing with sane people instead. I'm not sure that American Politics is the best place to find them, but whatever floats your boat...

PS: Please let cmatrix, ergo, and MM know that they really had nothing to do with it individually, but if they wanna go over to one of their forums and do some high fives...so be it.

They're all very experienced in unfounded declarations of victory, so I doubt anyone will take much notice of yet another.

Dave

 

[beachnut]

What's ELT?

Were automatic ELTs on the four flights of 911? Who knows the FARs? Looks like 911 truth minded fools all over the internet spread woo first and never check facts. Why is that?

 

[stewster89]

Farewell T.A.M I have only been here a short while... your posts are always a pleasure to read.

Beachnut, they obviously were required by the FARS to carry ELT because of their size, are you saying that they wouldn't automatically in the event of a crash?

 

[beachnut]

Farewell T.A.M I have only been here a short while... your posts are always a pleasure to read.

Beachnut, they obviously were required by the FARS to carry ELT because of their size, are you saying that they wouldn't automatically in the event of a crash?

Not true. Crash activated ELTs were not required by FARs for 911 flights. Required for civil aircraft (is that Part 91), and Part 135. Commercial carriers, not required.

911 and prior; Part 121 aircraft, not required to have crash activated ELTs. there were no crash activated ELTs required on flight 11, 77, 93, or 175. The ELT anomaly is due to ignorance, and the need to make up moronic lies.

 

[jaydeehess]

What is an ELT? emergency locator transmitter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distress_radiobeacon

When a plane crashes the ELT is activated and you can locate the crash scene. 911 truth is making up false claims about what was reported back in 2001. Just to warn you up to 98 percent of 121.5 ELT signals are false, not accidents, not emergencies.

What some of the false ones are, small planes that are sitting on the ramp and the ELT is accidentally going. All pilots usually are monitoring 121.5 for emergencies, and it is a back up if your radio fails and you don't know it; ATC will call you on 121.5. Thus, when a beacon goes off, everyone within line of sight can hear it, and they report it.

ELTs in relation to 911 would mean little. The timing of the ELT reports are not in sync with impacts, so they mean nothing.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-...es-crashed-minutes-flights-11-and-175-hit-wtc

Quote:
ELT SHOULD ONLY GO OFF IN EVENT OF A CRASH

Wow, just when one thinks that the 911 conspiracists can't futz up anything else.
In the 1980's I worked as an electronic tech for Transport Canada. Ome evening SarSat picked up an ELT beacon near our town. A C-130 was dispatched from Winnipeg and located a signal on a river. They saw no wreckage but they did see a float plane at a dock. I was sent out with a portable 121.5 DF. I drove past the house on the river and pointed the DF at the plane at the dock. Signal loud and clear. I then pointed it to either side, signal faded. I approached the house and knocked, no answer. I drove just around the bend in the road and again pointed the DF in the direction of the dock. beep,beep.beep,beep,,,,,,,,silence.
It was pretty obvious what had happened. The pilot saw my TC marked car and me looking for the signal. He had noticed the C-130 doing passes nearby and put 2 and 2 together. However, there is a potential fine for producing a false ELT signal so he did not answer the door. When he saw me drive away he went out and turned the ELT off.

Also somewhat obvious was how it was set off. It was fairly windy and the pilot probably forgot to disarm the ELT on landing and the docked plane bumping the dock set it off , OR , his landing was particularily rough setting it off. I called FSS and they sent the Herc back. They confirmed no further signal and with no reports of an aircraft down or missing no further action was taken.

Similar incidents happened several times a year.

 

[jaydeehess]

Awwww - and just when you had gotten 3 honorable mentions in MM's "sour grapes" thread at LCF.

But it is understood.

Hmm, I get but one mention. Does that mean I am not as good as others here, or better?

Sorry to see you go T.A.M., perhaps I will peruse those other subforums as well. My heart will always belong to the fight against the propagation of stupidity though so this is my subforum.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Hmm, I get but one mention. Does that mean I am not as good as others here, or better?

Don't feel bad... I've failed to get a single honorable mention. I guess I'm not evil or shilly enough... =(

 

[jaydeehess]

Don't feel bad... I've failed to get a single honorable mention. I guess I'm not evil or shilly enough... =(

They are all, it seems, thread titles. So you don't create shilly enough thread titles

 

[bill smith]

Anyone seen this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9rwdu67o5Q&feature=player_embedded#!

If I didn't know better I would think the perps are bringing 9/11 to the boil in their own way. But I fail to see how they will manage the global fallout of 9/11 being an inside job.

 

[beachnut]

Anyone seen this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9rwdu67o5Q&feature=player_embedded#!

If I didn't know better I would think the perps are bringing 9/11 to the boil in their own way. But I fail to see how they will manage the fallout of 9/11 being an inside job.

Wow, Jeff Becker is a moron. You posted proof he is a loon, an idiot on 911. Good job, you debunked another 911 truth dolt.

But you missed the train, kind of like your ability to understand 911.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189299

It is neat to see you have someone who has the same idiotic claims you like to post.

 

[bill smith]

Wow, Jeff Becker is a moron. You posted proof he is a loon, an idiot on 911. Good job, you debunked another 911 truth dolt.

But you missed the train, kind of like your ability to understand 911.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189299

It is neat to see you have someone who has the same idiotic claims you like to post.

The whole world will soon know beyond any reasonable doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. The perps may feel at this point that a proactive approach of managed releases works more to their advantage than otherwise. The lesser of two evils in other words.

I can't imagine what the Global Fallout will be. I just know that they will NEVER come out and admit it outright whatever the evidence. But the fact remains that all the world will soon know beyond a reasonable doubt. And that is going to turn the whole world into 9/11 investigators with a bunch of paid and unpaid Shills trying to stem the flow.

Then we will see whether a global kitchen table judgement has any teeth over the long or short term.

 

[beachnut]

The whole world will soon know beyond any reasonable doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. ...

Wow, I am scared now!

A delusion, about your delusion. Idiotic nonsense. You have 9 years of solid failure, and a good chance you will make it a failure that lasts forever.

Your delusions are on confined to 911.

 

[bill smith]

Wow, I am scared now!

A delusion, about your delusion. Idiotic nonsense. You have 9 years of solid failure, and a good chance you will make it a failure that lasts forever.

Your delusions are on confined to 911.

Those who are just deluded government supporters Beachnut do not have to be scared.A judgement of ulterior motive is what will get people into trouble.

I communicated with a very professional 'propaganda asset' (or Shill as they are known) who assured me that his line of defence would be simply that he was 'just having fun' with Truthers,

 

[CompusMentus]

Wow, I am scared now!

A delusion, about your delusion. Idiotic nonsense. You have 9 years of solid failure, and a good chance you will make it a failure that lasts forever.

Your delusions are on confined to 911.

It's OK beach he'll still be spouting the same old **** in 2020. Reminds me of this:-





Compus

 

[Athyrio]

Wow, Jeff Becker is a moron. You posted proof he is a loon, an idiot on 911. Good job, you debunked another 911 truth dolt.

But you missed the train, kind of like your ability to understand 911.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189299

It is neat to see you have someone who has the same idiotic claims you like to post.

And not only ericsnow posted the Becker video, so did fallout last night in this thread.

What we have here is typical truther intelligence - they are so eager to jump on the next passing truther bandwagon, that they utterly FAIL at checking it out first.

Let it be a lesson for any fencesitter or budding truther - is THAT the team you want to be on?

Great recruitment post, bill smith - keep 'em coming.

 

[bill smith]

And not only ericsnow posted the Becker video, so did fallout last night in this thread.

What we have here is typical truther intelligence - they are so eager to jump on the next passing truther bandwagon, that they utterly FAIL at checking it out first.

Let it be a lesson for any fencesitter or budding truther - is THAT the team you want to be on?

Great recruitment post, bill smith - keep 'em coming.

We do not need to actively recruit new Truth Seekers any more. The movement is completely self-sustaining now (which was always the objective when you think about it).

 

[Athyrio]

....
I communicated with a very professional 'propaganda asset' (or Shill as they are known) who assured me that his line of defence would be simply that he was 'just having fun' with Truthers,

Like you do in this forum?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

And not only ericsnow posted the Becker video, so did fallout last night in this thread.

What we have here is typical truther intelligence - they are so eager to jump on the next passing truther bandwagon, that they utterly FAIL at checking it out first.

Let it be a lesson for any fencesitter or budding truther - is THAT the team you want to be on?

Great recruitment post, bill smith - keep 'em coming.

Especially in the last week or so a couple have started setting the trend for having an overblown superiority complex while being hilariously wrong, or unknowledgeable about the subjects they were discussing. I think its gotten to their heads...