Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Does this look like a "fully involved fire on 47 floors" Bill?

 

[willhaven]

Well you hear the audio of at most a few dozen video cameras (virtually all of which may have been under government control) does not come close to trumping the eyewitness testimony of hundreds or thousands of people.

People say they heard explosion sounds and they were probably right. Most of what they were talking about were secondary explosions, collapses, or exploding vehicles and such after the first building collapsed.

The only videos of explosions happening as the buildings collapsed have been modified. Sorry, there were simply no explosions that brought those buildings down. There is a mountain of video and audio evidence that weighs against controlled demolition theories.

PS. Here is a video with witness statements. Jeez look at the amount of views. That's a few hundred thousand up on this time last month...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

The number of hits and people saying the word "explosion" doesn't mean explosive devices were present at the WTC site.

Every un-edited video of the collapse, especially those that occurred on live TV don't have explosion sounds. Curious how that works.

 

[bill smith]

People say they heard explosion sounds and they were probably right. Most of what they were talking about were secondary explosions, collapses, or exploding vehicles and such after the first building collapsed.

The only videos of explosions happening as the buildings collapsed have been modified. Sorry, there were simply no explosions that brought those buildings down. There is a mountain of video and audio evidence that weighs against controlled demolition theories.


The number of hits and people saying the word "explosion" doesn't mean explosive devices were present at the WTC site.

Every un-edited video of the collapse, especially those that occurred on live TV don't have explosion sounds. Curious how that works.

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

 

[johnny karate]

Not one single witness of the thousands that were in lower Manhattan on 9/11 reports witnessing a controlled demolition. Not one.

This gives the "controlled demolition" theory just as many witnesses as the "Godzilla did it" theory.

Our "line of defence" is holding up just fine, thank you.

 

[twinstead]

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

The problem for you is that "line of defence" means "what actually happened".

 

[bill smith]

Not one single witness of the thousands that were in lower Manhattan on 9/11 reports to have witnessed a controlled demolition. Not one.

This gives the "controlled demolition" theory just as many witnesses as the "Godzilla did it" theory.

Our "line of defence" is holding up just fine, thank you.

Many people thought that the collapses looked like controlled demoliton. Including Dan Rather and other commentators.

This is all the more remarkable considering that they had all seen the planes hit the buildings. Even so, they amazingly (and correctly) still thought the collases looked like controlled demolitions.

 

[twinstead]

Many people thought that the collapses looked like controlled demoliton. Including Dan Rather and other comentators.

This is all the more remarkable considering that they had all seen the planes hit the buildings. Even so, they amazingly still thought the collases looked like controlled demolitions.

The looked like controlled demolitions to some people. Big deal. What other frame of reference could they have? Do you think Dan Rather was in a position to judge anything at all? It's upon further investigation (you know, that thing you're not very good at) that it becomes clear to most rational people that there was NO evidence for controlled demolition.

It's this abject lack of evidence of controlled demolition that will not go away for you. The fact that nobody of any real importance gives a crap about what you and your cult believes will not go away for you, your bluff and bluster not withstanding.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Truthers have such fascinating imaginations... they have so much fun with their wild imaginations that verbal similes, and metaphors are non-existent. They like to engage in paradoxical reasoning, ignore fundamental physics, and even imagine in hyper-futuristic science fiction.

What shall they think up next? Will I grow wings? Will twinkies assume control of the NWO? Will pigs fly? I guess in the conspiracy theorist world anything is possible.

 

[twinstead]

mmmmmm...twinkies

 

[Sam.I.Am]

I for one welcome our new Twinkie Overlords...

 

[Grizzly Bear]

 

[A W Smith]

mmmmmm...twinkies

No, I'm pretty sure BS is a female.

 

[DavidJames]

Many people thought that the collapses looked like controlled demoliton. Including Dan Rather and other commentators.

This is all the more remarkable considering that they had all seen the planes hit the buildings. Even so, they amazingly (and correctly) still thought the collases looked like controlled demolitions.

I think it looks like the sun revolves around the earth. This is all the more remarkable because I'm smart enough to know amazingly (and correctly) it doesn't, I still think it looks that way.

 

[Kevin.Silbstedt]

Hey.. remember all those firemen who described WTC7 like this ?- '' It as fully involved in fire, all 47 floors from floor to ceiling ''

Yeah, but that is just because they were paid off, right?

Can you guess which of the two buildings on fire is WTC7 in this video ?
Any Questions ?

Interesting that your vid shows us the Windsor Tower in comparison to WTC 7. A concrete/steel hybrid on the one side and a purely steel building on the other side, you don't have to been an engineer to see that you can't compare those two.

Even more interesting is, that the pure steel framed part of the Windwor Tower collapsed after five hours. But mentioning that doesn't seem to be important right?

But hey thats all twoofies do. It looks like blablabla, so it has to be blablabla.

Where is your scientif proof? There are no seismic spikes that indicate a CD, there are no rests of explosives in all the found dust samples (USGS and some indepent guys actually analysed such samples, not even Harrit showed us remains of explosives, but he showed us, how stupid even the "smartest" twoofers can be). Oh and I almost forgot it: There were bombsniffing dogs. Or short: there is no evidence for a CD, but much against it.

And again, I tell you: YOU CAN'T SET EXPLOSIVES ON FIRE. Thats a pretty stupid idea, and yes WTC 1, 2 and 7 were on fire.

But hey, your video does actually show the south side of WTC7, wow. I always thought Twoofers couldn't see that side because of cognitive dissonance.

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

You are still talking crap.

Again: You CAN'T edit something completely out of an audiotrack. Got that? You can always just edit something in. And people from New York would have recognized that their films were manipulated. The whole town watched these buildings collaps. And nobody noticed that?

Oh I forgot about the allmighty NWO...

This gives the "controlled demolition" theory just as many witnesses as the "Godzilla did it" theory.

Hey, don't bring Godzilla into that conspiracy stuff, i have heard an audiotrack of one of the Towers collapsing, and I clearly heard something odd that definitly sounded like him, but the damn reptilian-NWO-Illuminati-Jew-Alien-Elvis Media has edited that sound out of all Material.

Many people thought that the collapses looked like controlled demoliton.

Yeah, and because my ass looks like a peach, it is a peach. Thanks for your incredible scientific proof.

This is all the more remarkable considering that they had all seen the planes hit the buildings. Even so, they amazingly (and correctly) still thought the collases looked like controlled demolitions.

Exactly, planes flew in those buildings. What magic explosives withstand the impact of a plane and a big fire? Again, Harry Potter seems to be on "their" side.

 

[willhaven]

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

Simply laughable.

 

[willhaven]

The sound of explosives in a CD of the WTC would have been deafening. All videos show a simple collapse with no explosion sounds. Too bad so sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmS36uSdtvw

Bill needs to provide evidence of how the audio was scrubbed of explosion sounds in real time on live TV and how all witnesses were coerced to lie for the conspiracy.

The only scenario that makes sense is no explosions from CD.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Many people thought that the collapses looked like controlled demoliton. Including Dan Rather and other commentators.

This is all the more remarkable considering that they had all seen the planes hit the buildings. Even so, they amazingly (and correctly) still thought the collases looked like controlled demolitions.

Come to the debunker side Bill!

 

[Audible Click]

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

I'd like you to know, Bill, that your defense of your truther beliefs are about as effective as the Maginot Line. You're really flailing around here. You can't/won't answer questions and we outflank you every time.

 

[MIKILLINI]

The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers. Even Shyam Sunder of NIST has fallen back on this last straw in his statements.

I just want debunkers to be aware that this line of defence will not hold.

For the record Bill...The lack of explosions in the audio means.... no explosions. Just be aware of this very simple fact.

 

[tsig]

Bill admits that it's not really "nano-thermite". But rather paint chips that came off a steel column from the WTC stored at JFK Airport in Hanger 17.

Bill, we all know you lie! Give yourself to the Debunker Force!

He got the paint chips from the football stadium.