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Church shooting some kind of trend?

See my avatar. HDF in humans is repairable.

If painful as hell.

Back to the OP: No one, and I mean, NO ONE, wanted this man dead. Certainly not from this board. Kathy came in looking to create an argument, and to her credit, she got one. And in the end, she has emerged, once more, as looking like the cretinous, hateful creature that she is. She's now trying to cover her tracks, and looking to suck what sympathy she can find from people who not only have shown they haven't any for liars, but more to the point, she's doing so to deflect her responsibility in this.

And this is one of the great mistakes in trying to respond to Kathy's posts: she's not interested in facts, in evidence, or anything else, save for the opportunity to preach. And as such, she's demonstrated herself to be nothing more than a troll.

Ignore is your friend.
 
Well I am afraid these types of events will continue to grow as the end draws near. We are warned in scripture many times that believers will suffer persecution.

If I was a preacher or pastor would some of you here on Jref do this to me?

Is the the same as all the other ends that various religions and cults have predicted over the past 2000 years?
 
Mayor Daley from Chicago will no doubt attempt to use this incident to whip up anti-gun hysteria for the purpose of creating yet more gun laws here in Illinois. He somehow thinks that more words on a piece of paper will change anything.

Mayor Daley! I thought that bastard had died years ago.
 
And what if this man who shot the pastor was demon possessed, what can anyone but Jesus do for a man like that? And for the record only a non believer can be taken over by a demon. And if the Bible is true (like I believe it is) we have only begun to see bad things like this as the demons will be losed on this earth while God casts his judgement. It will happen I absolutely know it! My hope is everyone gets Jesus right before it's too late to avoid this horrible event that is sure to come.
You have heard of Judgement Day right? Don't you believe in it??

There are no demons and I do not believe in judgement day,If i am wrong about judgement day then I'm looking forward to meeting the sky daddy,I have some pertinent questions that I wish to put to him.
 
My gardener's name is Jesus. My awakening occurred in 2004, and the economy was going strong. I tried Christianity, sort of like Darwin, Nietshzce,(I never do spell that right) and Kant as well. I turned to Native Spirituality after other things happened. I couldn't find truth or wisdom in Christianity. I found an abundance with the indians.

So Manitou really exists?
 
I said I was sorry already it was a bad joke so can you guys please quit beating me up for it. I have felt more than once peoples hostility hear on jref and it's clearly many are mad at God so I will not take it personal. All of us are sinners in need of forgiveness, even Obama.

And I am sorry to have to admit I do not support our president as I do not feel he is or was the man we needed in the White House. He has already made some very bad choices that even if he doesn't get re-elected will take at least a decade for better management to try to recover. Our ecomony has only begun to get worse and Obama is not helping! I'm sorry but I do suspect he is purposesly sabatoging the US for unknown reasons. Could he be an undercover Muslim? You know Islam wants to take over the whole world and will stop at nothing so who's to say they aren't behind some of this going on in the USA?


As I read through this thread it becomes more and more clear that you have lost touch with reality.
 
Actually medicine hasn't helped that much, I had just hoped God would have used the doctors to help me with my spine. I am dieing from degenerative disk disease, but should I get mad that God decided this is how I will leave this life? I would much prefer just falling asleep one night and not feeling death at all.

If the rapture does not happen in my lifetime I will certainly taste death and know when my body finally gives out God has promised me a new life and resurrected body one without ever anymore pain. Now that makes me happy but for now in this life I struggle everyday to manage chronic pain. At least I know it's only temporary!

There will be no rapture.Wake up and start living in the real world.
 

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