Church shooting some kind of trend?

[threejr]

I should have added a warning notice to my post. Sorry.

People get so het up about their gods, they completely ignore the power of pussy.


M.

And that, my friend, can have deadly consequences!

 

[kurious_kathy]

Given the history of her posting, I'll disagree. You're here a week, so I'll assume you haven't seen the past 4 years' worth of posting from KK. You see, KK likes to play martyr while simultaneously engaging in backhanded questions attempting to assassinate character. Try these:

Start here for general list of nastiness.

Try here for a specific example of nastiness.

But I digress, back to the post at hand:



Yes. Is that the answer you wanted to feed your sense of superiority? Or did you want the truth? Because the answer you want to hear and the actual truth of whether a member of the JREF forums would shoot you for preaching are opposite of each other. Your history of posting over the past 4 years here should show you no one is going to physically harm you on this forum for your preaching.

Hi Ducky! I am glad to hear from you. Hope you are doing well. My last surgery was not that successful but I am hanging in. I see my ortho Monday and will try to avoid another surgery but they are thinking about another one. I knew I should have waited for the synthetic disks to be more available than choosing a triple fusion. Oh well I'm still doing okay for now.

And as for your comment, I am not trying to make myself superior but to show Christ is supreme! Please know it is only him who worthy. To tell you the truth I do not know why he chose to save any of us, especially me but for some reason I have received his mercy and I want others to know they can too! Take Care, Kathy

 

[kurious_kathy]

Kathy, see that kitty who is my avatar? Take a look. Look into his eyes for a while. Try to keep looking. Feel anything?

I'll have you know that this little kitty has more magic, more juju, more power than a thousand of your gods stacked together.

Why, by the mere act of rounding his eyes wide, and issuing a mild and plaintive "meow" he has the power to make me leave whatever I am doing and devote myself to his bidding--usually "give me some milk," or "I need some treats," or simply, "I want to cuddle."

When Judgment Day finally arrives, I implore you, have some milk and treats ready! And be prepared to offer your lap for at least as long as it takes for the purring to stop.


M.

Hi Moochie, very cute! I have 5 cats so I know how wonderful they can be, but they are by no means God.
Did you say you are of egyptian descent or something? If I'm not mistaken they worshipped cats too? Better to worship our creator God than his creations is all I would like to say!

 

[joobz]

Hi Ducky! I am glad to hear from you. Hope you are doing well. My last surgery was not that successful but I am hanging in. I see my ortho Monday and will try to avoid another surgery but they are thinking about another one. I knew I should have waited for the synthetic disks to be more available than choosing a triple fusion. Oh well I'm still doing okay for now.

And as for your comment, I am not trying to make myself superior but to show Christ is supreme! Please know it is only him who worthy. To tell you the truth I do not know why he chose to save any of us, especially me but for some reason I have received his mercy and I want others to know they can too! Take Care, Kathy

Interesting that you rely on medicine and not jesus to heal your back.

 

[kurious_kathy]

I'm not twisting anything. I'm just thinking through the logical consequences of what you're saying, and I'm running headlong into a contradiction.

If you believe you can't be "indwelt by a demon", you should have absolutely no fear of being possessed.

Yet on another thread you said this:


I ask you if this happens to you a lot, and you replied:


So it seems you are contradicting yourself. You claim it takes vigilance and prayer (or reading and studying the Bible) and not simply faith. You seem to be genuinely afraid of demonic possession, yet your assertion suggests you should have no such fear.

ETA: For the record, the context of those statements on the other thread was in discussing a suicide. You seemed to be saying that if you're not vigilant and fail to keep doing something (prayer or study or whatever) that the devil will take over your thoughts or some such and make you commit suicide.

Hi Joe, I said I had to confront my demons in a way most do not have to but that's what it took for someone like me who's BC days were pretty bad. Somedays I battle with leaving the past in the past, but now I can be thankful Jesus granted me the gift of repentance through everything I went through. No one wants to know they were had by Satan, but the truth remains they are until Christ saves us.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Interesting that you rely on medicine and not jesus to heal your back.

Actually medicine hasn't helped that much, I had just hoped God would have used the doctors to help me with my spine. I am dieing from degenerative disk disease, but should I get mad that God decided this is how I will leave this life? I would much prefer just falling asleep one night and not feeling death at all.

If the rapture does not happen in my lifetime I will certainly taste death and know when my body finally gives out God has promised me a new life and resurrected body one without ever anymore pain. Now that makes me happy but for now in this life I struggle everyday to manage chronic pain. At least I know it's only temporary!

 

[joobz]

Actually medicine hasn't helped that much, I had just hoped God would have used the doctors to help me with my spine.

I regret that you must endure such pain, but Where would you be had medicine not existed? Who invents the intravetebral discs? The nucleus propulsus replacements? Note: my graduate advisor currently has a technology in early clinical trials. So, don't tell me about god influence.

Certainly medicine may not be ideal for you now, but it improves and will improve. Compare this to the "power of prayer", whose success rate hasn't changed in thousands of years. I'd much rather place my faith into science than religion when it comes to my health. It's got a much better success rate. And I think you realize this as well. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gone to the doctor's in the first place.

 

[kellyb]

Hi Joe, I said I had to confront my demons in a way most do not have to but that's what it took for someone like me who's BC days were pretty bad. Somedays I battle with leaving the past in the past, but now I can be thankful Jesus granted me the gift of repentance through everything I went through. No one wants to know they were had by Satan, but the truth remains they are until Christ saves us.

Does Satan still knock on the door of your mind, though? Even still, in these "AC" days?

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Hi Joe, I said I had to confront my demons in a way most do not have to but that's what it took for someone like me who's BC days were pretty bad. Somedays I battle with leaving the past in the past, but now I can be thankful Jesus granted me the gift of repentance through everything I went through. No one wants to know they were had by Satan, but the truth remains they are until Christ saves us.

That's not what you said. I quoted what you said--the exact words, and even filled in the context. (If you're saying that I'm lying or mischaracterizing your posts, you will soon have something else you need to ask forgiveness for.)

Even so, there's still a big honking contradiction between saying it's reasonable for you to fear demonic possession (as in the devil directing your thoughts to suicide) and the assertion that it's impossible for someone with faith to be possessed.

Either your fear of demons is reasonable or it's not. That's the contradiction.

 

[kellyb]

That's not what you said. I quoted what you said--the exact words, and even filled in the context. (If you're saying that I'm lying or mischaracterizing your posts, you will soon have something else you need to ask forgiveness for.)

Even so, there's still a big honking contradiction between saying it's reasonable for you to fear demonic possession (as in the devil directing your thoughts to suicide) and the assertion that it's impossible for someone with faith to be possessed.

Either your fear of demons is reasonable or it's not. That's the contradiction.

Well, to be fair, she said a demon can't posess a Christian. She said nothing about the ability of the king of demons, Satan himself, to.

 

[Ducky]

Hi Ducky! I am glad to hear from you. Hope you are doing well. My last surgery was not that successful but I am hanging in. I see my ortho Monday and will try to avoid another surgery but they are thinking about another one. I knew I should have waited for the synthetic disks to be more available than choosing a triple fusion. Oh well I'm still doing okay for now.

I don't believe you. You have never shown enough integrity for me to believe anything you say. In fact, every time you mention something like this it seems to be an attempt to get sympathy usually to avoid the topic at hand. I don't believe you're dying, and I don't believe you have anything wrong with your spine.

And as for your comment, I am not trying to make myself superior but to show Christ is supreme! Please know it is only him who worthy. To tell you the truth I do not know why he chose to save any of us, especially me but for some reason I have received his mercy and I want others to know they can too! Take Care, Kathy

I think you're lying again. I think you post here to make yourself feel superior and special.

Since 2005 your song hasn't changed. I still find you to be as offensive now as you were then. In 5 years you progressed from asking an abuse victim if she did something to share blame for the abuse to asking the members of this forum if we would shoot you for your beliefs and preaching.

 

[Roadtoad]

Even from the quotes, you can tell that Kathy's lying again. She's incapable of telling the truth.

Please, could the mods just ban this troll?

 

[joobz]

I don't believe you. You have never shown enough integrity for me to believe anything you say. In fact, every time you mention something like this it seems to be an attempt to get sympathy usually to avoid the topic at hand. I don't believe you're dying, and I don't believe you have anything wrong with your spine.

While you are likely right, I have no problem assuming she's stating the truth regarding her health. What I find unbelievably insulting is that she backhandedly dissmisses the decades(centuries) of hard work by researchers and doctors that went into the medical care she would seek out. And if it doesn't help, she claims that it's the doctor's fault. And if it does help, she would attribute that to god.

The same god who would doom anyone to enternal suffering and pain who doesn't grovel at his feet . The god who places greater weight on ass-kissing than on good deeds. It is THIS god, who she worships. She glorifies an end. A horrible end to the world that we all have worked hard to improve.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Well, to be fair, she said a demon can't posess a Christian. She said nothing about the ability of the king of demons, Satan himself, to.

Is Satan, the king of demons, not a demon? I think of this as a Venn diagram, where Satan is a member of the set of demons, so any statement about demons should apply to Satan.

 

[joobz]

Actually, Satan's an Angel.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Roadtoad, I held my statements back before because of time, but would like to explain my thoughts a bit more.

It would never in a million years cross my mind that you would slap KK. That you would ever resort to violence when words would do. Your demeanor and your posts never demonstrated a violent nature. You may have posted in anger. Made insulting/strong statements. But anger doesn't, in my mind, imply violence. I do not confuse the two. They are distinct creatures, like music and noise.

Actually, I am afraid of those who do equate the two, as KK obviously does. They equate it in their mind, that violence is a natural and accepted byproduct of anger. What do such people do when their kids make them angry? What do they do when they get angry in the car? At work? ...


This is where I would like to highlight, underline and bold the difference. Kurious Kathy, where does this assumption come from? Do you have such little respect for us that you'd think any of us would commit such base atrocities?

Or do you simply think violence is a natural part of anger? In which case, it would seem to me that you are projecting the horrors in your life on others as a way of minimizing the ordeals that you may face. For some, it's easier to deal with life when they think that others have it worse and you'd be willing to create the ultimate imagined worse (hell) to make yourself feel better.

Well, let me tell you that you do not need to manufacture a hell to know that some people live it. Consider the horror that a homosexual must face growing up in a fundamentalist family. Think about the pain and torture it is to be rejected as they are. Think about the countless lives that were considered secondary because of slavery. That another person could own another human and remember that such ownership of another was condoned by Jesus.

Think about the Horror of an entire race of people, mercilessly slaughtered. The women, the children. The 2, 3 year olds. All of the kids who were killed at the hands of the Christian conquistadors, all because they viewed the Incas as "savages".

This world is hard, but we have the capacity to make it better. We make it better by doing better and not by wishing the worst. When I die, I want to know I made the world a better place. I do that by the research I do and the life I give my kids. I do that by giving my children hope that they can make the world better. We owe it to our species to let them advance and not wish the end. Your judgment day is nothing more than a selfish wish to have all of life end because your's will one day. I have no respect for that view.

I had already said I was sorry for the bad joke but people do not want to acknowledge that and I will not keep apologizing for it. I get defensive because quite often I feel verbally abused here especially by certain people who show way too much anger about anything and everything I say. I really know I should not take it personal all the time as I feel most have an issue with Jesus, not me.

As for my world view I'm not sure how I define everything yet but I do know one day Jesus will seperate the sheep from the goats and it is my intent to be a sheep. Doyou understand that statement at all?

 

[Hokulele]

I had already said I was sorry for the bad joke but people do not want to asknowledge that and I will not keep apologizing for it.

Please link directly to the quote where you apologized to anyone for any of your hateful "jokes".



(Hint, you never did and it is highly unlikely you ever will.)

 

[kurious_kathy]

I don't believe you. You have never shown enough integrity for me to believe anything you say. In fact, every time you mention something like this it seems to be an attempt to get sympathy usually to avoid the topic at hand. I don't believe you're dying, and I don't believe you have anything wrong with your spine.



I think you're lying again. I think you post here to make yourself feel superior and special.

Since 2005 your song hasn't changed. I still find you to be as offensive now as you were then. In 5 years you progressed from asking an abuse victim if she did something to share blame for the abuse to asking the members of this forum if we would shoot you for your beliefs and preaching.

Everyone is dying but some of us go a bit sooner than others. And I guess I could try to get some cool pictures of my spine up here on Jref like you have so you could see proof I am not lying. Of course it's up to you to trust they are of me. None of us can make a person believe anything if they choose not too.

Have I really been here since 2005? Wow I can't believe it. There are often times I do not know why I even try to share here, but I hope somehow Jesus will bring someone to faith. I'm not lying when I tell you how I feel having faith in God is important for people in this world.

I still wish you well even if you choose not to do the same for me.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Please link directly to the quote where you apologized to anyone for any of your hateful "jokes".



(Hint, you never did and it is highly unlikely you ever will.)

I am not very savy with computers so I must apologize for not knowing how to do a link. I am just very Technologically challenged unlike you. When I was a admin. assist. I use to support a tech team, I never was one of them. If it wasn't for my hubby's knowledge of computers I would not even have gotten this far.

There are at least 3 times I said sorry for the bad joke. I think the first was to RT, then just now to jbooz, and then one in between. I do not really have time right now to go back and look. If I do happen to come across it I will make a point to try to mark it and tell you what # post it was. I said I struggle a little with my dads sarcastic sense of humor but I am sorry when I rub people the wrong way as I am more accountable to Christ for it. SORRY! I hope you will still choose to forgive me for I am by no means a perfect girl and have my cross to carry. Do you have any personality corks? I know it's not a great reason but it does explain a lot at things sometimes. People are very interesting but also very complex.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Oh, absolutely. I think you are spot on with your comments, but I wanted to make it clear to her why I hold these opinions. Whether or not it will have any impact is a different kettle of horses of many colors.

I think it does highlight a fundamental difference in attitude (like the excellent analysis by joobz). As an atheist, I am the only one who can take responsibility for my actions. I cannot pass the blame off on "Satan" or "demons", nor can I simply sit back and sanctimoniously proclaim it "God's will". If I cause harm, it is up to me to accept it and do my level best to fix it.

Anything else seems rather immature to me.

I also need to reinurate here that while I am sorry for the bad joke (here I said it again) I am not sorry for sharing my belief in spiritual warfare. What if God showed you how your demons have deceived you all your life, would you believe then?
That's what has happened for me but all that deny the supernatural realm here on this forum choose to say since I can't show them what God showed me then it can't be true. It is true and I wish I could show you what the Lord has done for me to turn me from darkness to light. I just hope that for others somehow, that God could make himself known to you. You can't believe in God without knowledge of the devil just as you can't know there's a heaven without knowing there's a hell!