Can Soul, Ghosts Exist?

[Mojo]

No, if we consider molecular energy traces.

They don't exist.

You can understand it by taking composition of any plant used in remedies.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with what I posted.

This is bit secret. I can't tell unless you tell me 'how somewhat similar salts are found on dry ash analysis of body & differant parts of body, in several specimen?

Ooh, it's a secret! Incidentally, the word "different" does not have an "a" in it.

HRs may work with least side effects. These works or don't work

OK, which ones don't work?

I am taking about dry ash analysis.

No, you asked about the results of ash analysis

originally posted by Kumar
if most remains in ionnic form in live body?

Please try to be consistent.

 

[MRC_Hans]

*snip*
This is bit secret. I can't tell unless you tell me 'how somewhat similar salts are found on dry ash analysis of body & differant parts of body, in several specimen?
*snip*

Sorry, Kumar, but you are not supposed to keep secrets from us.

(Jeesh )

Hans

 

[Kumar]

Sorry, Kumar, but you are not supposed to keep secrets from us.

(Jeesh )

Hans

I don't, but basis of this secret can be the proper awnser to this question.

 

[Kumar]

They don't exist.

Yes, in today's science, not in today's observations & experiances of mass.....

This has nothing whatsoever to do with what I posted.

Then you can't understand.

Ooh, it's a secret! Incidentally, the word "different" does not have an "a" in it.

I am bit different so can use some different words. Try by iindication as you are clever/inteligent.
OK, which ones don't work?

Depends.....

No, you asked about the results of ash analysis
Please try to be consistent.

I thought you understand indications. Moreover, I am very flexible alike your liked theories, because flexibilty is better, physiologically.

 

[PixyMisa]

They don't exist.

Yes, in today's science, not in today's observations & experiances of mass.....

No.

They don't exist.

Simple as that.

They don't exist. At all. Ever.

 

[mayday]

Kumar there is no "science" of this. The existence of the soul cannot be proved or disproved. Your use of the word "science" in this context is an oxymoron.

The existence of ghosts cannot be reliably demonstrated. All rational people who have investigated ghosts believe that no such thing exits.

Oh really? That is laughable. You are so presumptuous, Archie Bunker.

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

But I see you are not capable of unbiased conversation.

 

[Donks]

Oh really? That is laughable. You are so presumptuous, Archie Bunker.

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

But I see you are not capable of unbiased conversation.

Care to present your evidence?

 

[thaiboxerken]

I second that request. As far as I know, there is NO credible evidence to support the claim that ghosts exist.

 

[PixyMisa]

Oh really? That is laughable. You are so presumptuous, Archie Bunker.

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

But I see you are not capable of unbiased conversation.

Yeah, right.

Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus?

Because we have far more evidence for that trinity than we have for ghosts.

 

[Zep]

Oh really? That is laughable. You are so presumptuous, Archie Bunker.

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

But I see you are not capable of unbiased conversation.

I smell the dark, dank underarm of a TROLL!!!

 

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

In your opinion, what qualifies as an evidence? What are the requisites something needs to be considered evidence?

 

[Ashles]

Mayday you have been asked many times to produce evidence which you say you have.

You never do.

Do you see why that makes you look slightly unbelievable?

 

[Vikram]

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

Where? When? Could you post any?

Did any of your graveyard experiments yield any results yet?

 

[Correa Neto]

Originally posted by Kumar
...snip...
Yes, in today's science, not in today's observations & experiances of mass.....
...snip...

"Mass experiences" are not reliable in the way you reffer to them.

The "mass" experiences a flat Earth. Yet it is not.
The "ancient masses" looked at the Sun and "experienced" (if not "knew") that it, the stars and the planets circled around the Earth...
The "mass experienced and knew" about spontaneous generation of maggots in the meat... Is spontaneous generation of maggots true?
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that volcanoes were created by stong winds under the Earth...
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that giant salamanders caused earthquakes...
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that dragons and unicorns were real...

"Mass experience" means absolutely nothing.

Besides, what percentage of the "mass" has "experienced and observed"? Is the percentage significative? I know a whole lot more people who do not belive and/or never had any ghost experiences than people who had any ghost experiences. The same is valid for homeopathy, UFOs, etc. Not to mention that the reliability of those who experienced can (must) be questioned.

What brings me to another (slightly OT) issue- why anedoctal evidence for the inexistence of paranormal phenomena, UFOs and homeopathy are not taken in to account?

Some of my anedoctal examples-
*I´ve tried hard, including with supposed mediums and paranormal researchers, but never seen a ghost... Even when I belived in such things.
*Never saw something in the sky that could not be explained, even when I belived in such things and was part of UFO study group.
*Homeopathy never worked with me. Even when I belived in such things.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Oh really? That is laughable. You are so presumptuous, Archie Bunker.

I investigate ghosts and while ghosts have never been proven or disproven there is more evidence that goes toward proving them than disproving them.

But I see you are not capable of unbiased conversation.

He said

The existence of ghosts cannot be reliably demonstrated. All rational people who have investigated ghosts believe that no such thing exits.

Note the word "rational". You hardly come into that category, Bigfig.

Hans

 

[mayday]

I second that request. As far as I know, there is NO credible evidence to support the claim that ghosts exist.

Yep, there you go. How do you explain the figures in pictures I took that were not there when I took the pictures? I'm not talking about orbs or blobs, I'm talking about full apparitions.
If you want to talk about orbs, I have captured those as well. I'm not talking about a bunch of dust particles or rain drops. Just day before yesterday we were exploring some of the caves on our other farm and I got a picture with an orb in it. A real orb. Not a bunch of dust particles, no raindrops. A single orb.

I see that we have some here who suffer from skeptimania, it is a pathological condition with some of you. And it's such a shame, you can't see how someone can be agnostic/atheist and still realize it is a good possibility we continue to exist after we croak on this plane.

 

[Donks]

Yep, there you go. How do you explain the figures in pictures I took that were not there when I took the pictures? I'm not talking about orbs or blobs, I'm talking about full apparitions.
If you want to talk about orbs, I have captured those as well. I'm not talking about a bunch of dust particles or rain drops. Just day before yesterday we were exploring some of the caves on our other farm and I got a picture with an orb in it. A real orb. Not a bunch of dust particles, no raindrops. A single orb.

I see that we have some here who suffer from skeptimania, it is a pathological condition with some of you. And it's such a shame, you can't see how someone can be agnostic/atheist and still realize it is a good possibility we continue to exist after we croak on this plane.

Could you post these pictures?
Was the cave dark? Did you use a flash?

 

[Kumar]

"Mass experiences" are not reliable in the way you reffer to them.

existing means now existing.

The "mass" experiences a flat Earth. Yet it is not.

For all or most practical purposes, it is/was flat. Older people were more practical. Inspite, learned ones were knowing earth's shape(proof; ancient astrological calculations), they favoured what was most practical, unabling common people to stand stable--not on ball. Moreover, being true skeptic & non-absolute nature of modern tellings, you can be skeptic in this, because you have not seen it as round from your naked eyes alike a ball in your fingers.

The "ancient masses" looked at the Sun and "experienced" (if not "knew") that it, the stars and the planets circled around the Earth...
The "mass experienced and knew" about spontaneous generation of maggots in the meat... Is spontaneous generation of maggots true?
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that volcanoes were created by stong winds under the Earth...
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that giant salamanders caused earthquakes...
The "ancient masses experienced and knew" that dragons and unicorns were real...

I don't know history of these. What common people lost or gained from these knowledges.

"Mass experience" means absolutely nothing.

Why then any well tested & studied medicine,theory is changed,banned,...etc. on time testing, mass observations & experiances. Were those evidances & studies fake or fraud, miss or wekness?

Besides, what percentage of the "mass" has "experienced and observed"? Is the percentage significative? I know a whole lot more people who do not belive and/or never had any ghost experiences than people who had any ghost experiences. The same is valid for homeopathy, UFOs, etc. Not to mention that the reliability of those who experienced can (must) be questioned.

We would have not able to translate true logic behind soul or ghost as indicate. Study my topic & try understandig the real logic & translation(however, I am bit fearing nowadays from those concepts as effecting--being very powerful forces) (Sorry, souls & ghosts, I apologize for indicating, pls forgive me & remain cool & clear towards me, this is an open apology, good bye!!)

What brings me to another (slightly OT) issue- why anedoctal evidence for the inexistence of paranormal phenomena, UFOs and homeopathy are not taken in to account?

Some of my anedoctal examples-
*I´ve tried hard, including with supposed mediums and paranormal researchers, but never seen a ghost... Even when I belived in such things.

As above.

*Never saw something in the sky that could not be explained, even when I belived in such things and was part of UFO study group.

I don't know about this.

*Homeopathy never worked with me. Even when I belived in such things.

Bad luck. Rare. Have you didn't felt any change? Previously skeptic, how could you believe in it without experiancing its positive results.(however, to be true, one of my experiance indicate, many or most TRS remedies didn't work in some specific digestive pH condition).

 

[Ashles]

I see that we have some here who suffer from skeptimania, it is a pathological condition with some of you. And it's such a shame, you can't see how someone can be agnostic/atheist and still realize it is a good possibility we continue to exist after we croak on this plane.

Of course to some people the opposite condition - Credophilia - would seem to be even more unpleasant.

Imagine having a belief that we lived on after death based on photographic defects.

And what do you mean by a 'real orb'? Can you provide a link to a picture of such an orb on the internet? Or do you have the only genuine orb photo?

And are you ever going to post these pictures you keep mentioning so we can actually have a look?

 

[Kumar]

I see that we have some here who suffer from skeptimania, it is a pathological condition with some of you. And it's such a shame, you can't see how someone can be agnostic/atheist and still realize it is a good possibility we continue to exist after we croak on this plane.

skeptimania, it is a pathological condition.

I am no sure, but can be thought in view of "excess of everything is bad".