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Can Dimethyltryptamine DMT create Psychic Visions

woddyallen said:
I read your post slowly 5 times and I say again "Can DMT create psychic visions"

I totally agree with science and the scientific process, I have developed a hypothesis and I want James to test it. So "Can DMT create psychic visions?"

You and I are allowed to hypothesize in science, but it is not the conclusion it is merely the opening chapter towards a conclusions. One thing about being a skeptic is not slamming the hypothesis, it is examining, testing and retesting the hypothesis. Whether or not Psychic visions have been proven in the past or not is moot, The question still remains can "DMT Create Psychic visions?"

Can James Randi Test this hypothesis? He is THE MAN! The truest of true Skeptics. There is no one on this planet alive that is above his skeptical eye, which is why I asked this question here. I once again do not want to debate, and I want to test an hypothesis, this is all. Can DMT create psychic visions?
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What is a "psychic vision''?
 
Woddy:

Seriously, you sound like someone that has serious mental problems or someone trying to emulate the tone of someone with serious mental problems. I am not trying to be insulting, simply to give an assessment of the tone and content of your posts.

Either way your not going to find a reputable scientific organization that is going to give you any kind of drug other than those which may or may not be medically needed by you.

If you think you have an ability to see the future through drugs, great, come back when you have proof, that is what the jref is about. Not drugging up someone who is either an internet troll or mentally unstable. What you are looking for is called a drug dealer, not a skeptic.
 
sadhatter said:
. What you are looking for is called a drug dealer, not a skeptic.
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To be fair to Woddy, and having waded through his website/plea for a wife, he claims to be able to synthesize DMT within his body through prayer and meditation.

Testing his claims would not require the acquisition of any DMT, outside of his own body.
 
Olowkow said:
What psychic visions did you have? What documented evidence do you have that you saw the future? If you have none, your claims are not something that will find acceptance here.
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I am so sorry I missed this post. There were many many visions of just every day things that would happen before they happened. I was in such denial of ESP that I never shared them with anyone ever, I didn't even believe them myself. There is one Vision that I can verify with my exwife. But I wouldn't do it on this forum I would like I said with Roger below share it with you, my exwife is fragile and it wouldn't be fair to expose her to this. It was of the DC Snipers ... I will just copy and paste it here from my site ...


A year or so later after I had finished a college IT course...
...I was pushing shopping carts at a Loblaw’s Supermarket while I was searching for computer work in a dried up IT market while trying to feed 3 of my wife’s teenage kids on little to no money. There was the stress again that I felt in the South Bronx, it was terrifying. I was sitting on the couch watching Americas Most Wanted or CNN with my wife at the time. They were profiling the D.C Sniper in 2002 I believe. They were looking for a white male in a white van. I remember being transported out of my body; I was looking down at a country dirt road in the United States. I saw 2 black men standing beside a big blue car, and there were trees along the side of the road. The sun was nearly set, the moon was out. I saw the 2 men, one younger one older; they would take turns shooting out of the back of their trunk of their big blue mid 80’s car. They knew the police and FBI would be looking at surveillance photos of them, which is why they took turns shooting. The older man had a military back ground and I saw a picture of him from the 70's he looked like Eddy Murphy's Buckwheat character on Saturday Night Live, he had bushy hair, freaked me out. I turned to my wife at the time and told her that they were looking for the wrong guy, that it was not a white guy in a white van but 2 black guys in a big blue mid 80's car, I told her what I saw. She laughed and called me crazy, but the feeling of certainty was overwhelming, but I kept my mouth shut. The next night we were having a nightly drive and on the way home we were listing to the radio, it was getting late and the news came on, they were talking about the D.C. Sniper, they were still looking for a white guy in a white van. I got really serious and told my wife at the time "not to forget, that I was sure it was 2 black guys, one older one younger, and they were shooting from the trunk of their car". I asked her to repeat it to me 3 times so she wouldn't forget. I remember her look of concern of my mental health; I told her I couldn't tell anyone else, they would think I was crazy and that I only trusted her. The next day I believe I went looking for payphones with no cameras close by, I got the 1 800 number for the FBI, I was going to report what I saw and if I was right they could not tie me to this. Well needless to say the 1 800 number only worked from inside the US. I got the international 1 800 number and that did not work from inside North America, I paid out of pocket and got the run around with voice mail, finally I just gave up and realized the FBI's communications was not going to happen. Later that week, I found it was 2 black guys shooting out of the back of their big blue mid 80’s car trunk. My wife freaked she can verify this.
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That was from my site, NOW get this I was in such denial of psychics I just thought I was a psychological profiler, so I tried to profile the BTK killer and I couldn't have been more wrong, like 100% wrong, you see I am speculating the conditions of stress and meditation for the BTK Killer were not the same for the DC Snipers.

With the DC Snipers I was under wicked wicked stress, then meditating on the couch.

In any case MY ex-wife can verify the DC Snipers vision. But I will not expose her on this or any forum, face to face or email of a person I have checked out, I protect her.
 
woddyallen said:
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In any case MY ex-wife can verify the DC Snipers vision. But I will not expose her on this or any forum, face to face or email of a person I have checked out, I protect her.
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So the only person who has ever heard any of your predictions before they came to pass cannot be allowed to verify your claims (a little at least) because you are protecting her. From us. Convenient.
 
wardenclyffe said:
woddyallen,

Since you were a hardcore skeptic before you discovered your ability to have psychic visions, why don't you tell us what you think would be an appropriate test? I'm willing to believe that you are serious. Put yourself in the shoes you wore three years ago. How would you have approached someone with your claims? Please suggest a starting point for a test protocol and we can go from there.

Thanks,
Ward
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Thanks wardenclyffe,

I am not a doctor so I couldn't honestly ascribe or prescribe a methodology on how to test this, but I do KNOW it can be tested.


Just like everyone on this forum I am assuming, I can only throw out guess's of how it may be tested but this is the best I can do, I don't want to waist time with guess's.

I would defiantly find a psychological research center willing to test this hypothesis "Does DMT create Psychic Visions" and go from there. Let the people currently doing research on ESP to perhaps add this to their arsenal of tests and study. Their the experts in prescribing medication and understand the risks of caution when not knowing a drugs potential.

Thing is I can't find any current study's being done with DMT on the planet earth. Why is my question?

So if anyone knows of a transparent DMT Study in relation to psychic visions please let me know :)
 
Doing a scientific study should not be illegal, just a pain in the A**. I think that the JREF should at least look into doing a study and be willing to conduct a test in a country where DMT is legal as well as the legality's of performing a DMT ESP study it in North America.
 
woddyallen said:
I would defiantly find a psychological research center willing to test this hypothesis "Does DMT create Psychic Visions" and go from there.
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That's not a hypothesis, it's a question. A question to which the answer is "no."
 
Naddig74 said:
So the only person who has ever heard any of your predictions before they came to pass cannot be allowed to verify your claims (a little at least) because you are protecting her. From us. Convenient.
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Nope just not to potential Flamers but I will expose her to James Randi and anyone else willing to give up their anonymity and introduce me to their spouses, I would not expose her to the www, it is not a nice place, just read 90% of the reply's, but I will confirm the vision with James and a few others I am beginning to respect here.
 
woddyallen said:
Nope just not to potential Flamers but I will expose her to James Randi,
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You have been told several times already that Randi does not conduct these 'studies.'

woddyallen said:
and anyone else willing to give up their anonymity and introduce me to their spouses,
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Why is it necessary for you to meet spouses? You do realise you're on a hiding to nothing there with Randi don't you?

woddyallen said:
I would not expose her to the www, it is not a nice place, just read 90% of the reply's, but I will confirm the vision with James and a few others I am beginning to respect here.
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You don't seem to respect anyone here enough to listen to whats being said to you...

It is impossible to examine your theory 'DMT induces Prophetic Vision' without previously testing and proving the theory 'Prophetic Vision is real.'

You claim to have been a physicist in the OP, yet you do not seem to know how to phrase a hypothesis, and a method to test that hypothesis correctly. Even your grasp of written English seems shaky. What are your scientific credentials?
 
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Naddig74 said:
To be fair to Woddy, and having waded through his website/plea for a wife, he claims to be able to synthesize DMT within his body through prayer and meditation.

Testing his claims would not require the acquisition of any DMT, outside of his own body.
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From what i gather he says he can no longer go through stress which is what enhanced his dmt levels causing his psychic flashes. So if we have taken out his ability to do this naturally what are we left with as an option to induce dmt into his body?
 
sadhatter said:
From what i gather he says he can no longer go through stress which is what enhanced his dmt levels causing his psychic flashes. So if we have taken out his ability to do this naturally what are we left with as an option to induce dmt into his body?
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Oh right. I must have missed that tasty little cherry tomato in amongst all the lettuce. My apologies. Where is DMT legal then?
 
woddyallen said:
I am so sorry I missed this post. There were many many visions of just every day things that would happen before they happened. I was in such denial of ESP that I never shared them with anyone ever, I didn't even believe them myself. There is one Vision that I can verify with my exwife. But I wouldn't do it on this forum I would like I said with Roger below share it with you, my exwife is fragile and it wouldn't be fair to expose her to this. It was of the DC Snipers ... I will just copy and paste it here from my site ...


A year or so later after I had finished a college IT course...
...I was pushing shopping carts at a Loblaw’s Supermarket while I was searching for computer work in a dried up IT market while trying to feed 3 of my wife’s teenage kids on little to no money. There was the stress again that I felt in the South Bronx, it was terrifying. I was sitting on the couch watching Americas Most Wanted or CNN with my wife at the time. They were profiling the D.C Sniper in 2002 I believe. They were looking for a white male in a white van. I remember being transported out of my body; I was looking down at a country dirt road in the United States. I saw 2 black men standing beside a big blue car, and there were trees along the side of the road. The sun was nearly set, the moon was out. I saw the 2 men, one younger one older; they would take turns shooting out of the back of their trunk of their big blue mid 80’s car. They knew the police and FBI would be looking at surveillance photos of them, which is why they took turns shooting. The older man had a military back ground and I saw a picture of him from the 70's he looked like Eddy Murphy's Buckwheat character on Saturday Night Live, he had bushy hair, freaked me out. I turned to my wife at the time and told her that they were looking for the wrong guy, that it was not a white guy in a white van but 2 black guys in a big blue mid 80's car, I told her what I saw. She laughed and called me crazy, but the feeling of certainty was overwhelming, but I kept my mouth shut. The next night we were having a nightly drive and on the way home we were listing to the radio, it was getting late and the news came on, they were talking about the D.C. Sniper, they were still looking for a white guy in a white van. I got really serious and told my wife at the time "not to forget, that I was sure it was 2 black guys, one older one younger, and they were shooting from the trunk of their car". I asked her to repeat it to me 3 times so she wouldn't forget. I remember her look of concern of my mental health; I told her I couldn't tell anyone else, they would think I was crazy and that I only trusted her. The next day I believe I went looking for payphones with no cameras close by, I got the 1 800 number for the FBI, I was going to report what I saw and if I was right they could not tie me to this. Well needless to say the 1 800 number only worked from inside the US. I got the international 1 800 number and that did not work from inside North America, I paid out of pocket and got the run around with voice mail, finally I just gave up and realized the FBI's communications was not going to happen. Later that week, I found it was 2 black guys shooting out of the back of their big blue mid 80’s car trunk. My wife freaked she can verify this.
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That was from my site, NOW get this I was in such denial of psychics I just thought I was a psychological profiler, so I tried to profile the BTK killer and I couldn't have been more wrong, like 100% wrong, you see I am speculating the conditions of stress and meditation for the BTK Killer were not the same for the DC Snipers.

With the DC Snipers I was under wicked wicked stress, then meditating on the couch.

In any case MY ex-wife can verify the DC Snipers vision. But I will not expose her on this or any forum, face to face or email of a person I have checked out, I protect her.
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In your day to day life woddy , if someone says they have proof of something, then refuses to show it to you, but asks you to act as if the proof has been shown, would that person be suspicious?

Just wondering because in mine it is considered very suspicious, think of the following example.

"I can double your money in one hour, and i have 5 friends that i have done this for before, but they are not here right now. So how about it?"

that statement , to me is the exact same premise your attempting to set up. You are saying you have proof, not showing it, but asking us to act as if you have ( specifically treat you as if your not mentally unstable.) Unfortunately, to the vast majority of the world this screams fraud, or at the least a disconnect from reality.
 
woddyallen said:
Doing a scientific study should not be illegal, just a pain in the A**. I think that the JREF should at least look into doing a study and be willing to conduct a test in a country where DMT is legal as well as the legality's of performing a DMT ESP study it in North America.
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....wait a minute, hold the phone.

You are the one who wants the study done, you are the one who says he can have psychic visions. If you want this done, you do it. No one involved with the jref thinks that dmt can do this, and therefore they are not going to waste their resources.

If there is anything to this i am sure you could get a research grant in order to do this. But seeing as your evidence is your ex wife, i think you will more than likely get laughed out of the building.

What you need to do if you want this done, is

1. Stop going to internet forums and talking about it. You are simply giving away your great idea, and someone could steal it.

2. Get to an appropriate school to learn pharmacology, and get a degree in a pharmaceutical field. This will give you the basic knowledge required to judge what chemicals do , and how they can be safely administered to someone.

3. Go to a country in which dmt is legal. Show your credentials and data to a scientific organization, now that you can back up your claims with real knowledge , this should be a breeze.

4. Do the test and come back here, assuming the mdc has not been taken, you can now claim a million to put toward the future of dmt research.

Now if your unwilling to do this, then your not going to be able to do anything. No one is going to give the reigns of an experiment to a person with no relevant knowledge or degrees. Or even design an experiment based on some random john doe's idea.

The long story short, if you don't want to seem like a loon , stop acting like one. Ranting in internet forums is not how scientific discoveries are made, hard work and education is how scientific studies are made.
 
Woddy, are you even reading the questions being asked of you in this thread?

Are you now just copying and pasting your previous posts?

You are aware, aren't you, that revealing your prophecy after the event is not proof?
 
woddyallen said:
I have the vision on my site that described the DC Snipers to a 'T' when everyone was looking for a white guy in a white van, I saw 2 black men one younger one older shooting from the trunk of their car, they were taking turns shooting...My ex wife can verify this but I will expose her to James Randi and anyone else willing to give up their true anonymity and introduce me to their spouses, I would not expose her to the www, it is not a nice place, just read 90% of the reply's, but I will confirm the vision with James and a few others I am beginning to respect here like you sadhatter.
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Again, your using information that is easily faked. Watch how easy it is to fake this.

I also knew exactly who the dc snipers were, in fact i knew their names, favorite meals and the last 10 books they read.

Now if i tell you my girlfriend at the time could back me up on this, but she is not around, does that make my statement any more true?

As a thinking man, you cannot expect anyone to take your story seriously at this point. If you do then i again point to mental illness or having a laugh as the cause of this , as opposed to any legitimate wonder at the effects of dmt.
 
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