"But Global Warming is a HOAX!!!"

[Hercules56]

No such thing.

You're joking, right?

I mean really, you're joking right?

 

[lobosrul5]

No such thing.

If there was no greenhouse effect in the atmosphere, we'd all freeze to death every night.

 

[Pixel42]

98%+ of the free CO2 in the biosphere is in solution in the oceans.

As the oceans warm they out-gas CO2.

Atmospheric CO2 follows global warming, a truth established decades ago.

The tale we're being told, the opposite, IS A LIE.

We are not being told the opposite, that is exactly what climatologists tell us.

A natural climate forcing, e.g. the Milankovich cycles, causes a rise in temperature. This causes the oceans to warm, which causes a rise in CO2. That, being a greenhouse gas, causes further warming, which warms the oceans further ... a classic positive feedback.

 

[gnome]

98%+ of the free CO2 in the biosphere is in solution in the oceans.

As the oceans warm they out-gas CO2.

Atmospheric CO2 follows global warming, a truth established decades ago.

The tale we're being told, the opposite, IS A LIE.

On the Greenhouse effect:

No such thing.

I am on the edge of my seat awaiting your information that overturns so much published science. You have evidence that can demonstrate this, yes? Something to help you get started. How would you address the commentary on these very points in the below links?

https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm
https://skepticalscience.com/does-greenhouse-effect-exist.htm

 

[Hercules56]

98%+ of the free CO2 in the biosphere is in solution in the oceans.

As the oceans warm they out-gas CO2.

Atmospheric CO2 follows global warming, a truth established decades ago.

The tale we're being told, the opposite, IS A LIE.

A 2013 paper by Dr Jeremy Shakun of Boston College and colleagues examined a network of 80 climate proxy records around the world during the end of the last ice age. They found that while CO2 generally lagged temperatures in the southern hemisphere – consistent with Antarctic reconstructions – the same was not true for the rest of the world.

Both the northern hemisphere and overall global temperatures actually lagged CO2; in other words, for the world as a whole, warming happened after atmospheric CO2 concentrations increased. The reasons for this are complex and are driven in part by changes in ocean currents as ice ages end.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/

 

[Pixel42]

If there was no greenhouse effect in the atmosphere, we'd all freeze to death every night.

Indeed. The average surface temperature of the moon is -18C. Without greenhouse gases, the average surface temperature of the earth would be the same. It's actually 15C (up a degree in the last 150 years thanks to the burning of fossil fuel).

 

[Hercules56]

Indeed. The average surface temperature of the moon is -18C. Without greenhouse gases, the average surface temperature of the earth would be the same. It's actually 15C (up a degree in the last 150 years thanks to the burning of fossil fuel).

Mars has barely any GHGs, which is why its DAMN cold, regardless of the sun being up.

 

[Pixel42]

So no evidence or arguments then, just mindless parroting of deniers carefully cherry picked facts, followed by insults when he discovers we already know them, and what they actually mean.

 

[Hercules56]

So no evidence or arguments then, just mindless parroting of deniers carefully cherry picked facts, followed by insults when he discovers we already know them, and what they actually mean.

Now that we see that in general, temps lag BEHIND increase in CO2, I am now more convinced that anthropogenic warming is real...and we are screwed.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Absolute ****-wits.

I always wonder, in your mind, what is the end goal of the massive conspiracy you assume?

Lets, for arguments sake, assume you are right, and 98% of the worlds ecological and climatology scientists are in on some massive project to lie to everyone, only opposed by a plucky few scraping by on unlimited funding by the richest corporations in the world.

Why would they do that?
What is their end goal according to you?

 

[lomiller]

As the oceans warm they out-gas CO2.

That's not where the extra CO2 in the atmosphere is coming from. Again, the isotope signature for fossil carbon is distinct.

Atmospheric CO2 follows global warming, a truth established decades ago.

You mean an myth that was invented decades ago, right? Like most lies there is a small kernel of truth in that there is sometimes a tiny amount of warming that triggers CO2 increases, the vast majority of the the warming follows and is caused by the rise in CO2.

The tale we're being told, the opposite, IS A LIE.

Well, the tale you have been told is certainly a lie. Most of us, however, don't get their science from the right wing media.

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Now that we see that in general, temps lag BEHIND increase in CO2, I am now more convinced that anthropogenic warming is real...and we are screwed.

Unbelievable. In every respect.

 

[Hercules56]

I always wonder, in your mind, what is the end goal of the massive conspiracy you assume?

Lets, for arguments sake, assume you are right, and 98% of the worlds ecological and climatology scientists are in on some massive project to lie to everyone, only opposed by a plucky few scraping by on unlimited funding by the richest corporations in the world.

Why would they do that?
What is their end goal according to you?

The goal is to destroy Capitalism, and therefore the USA.

Sadly there may be some truth to this. I dont see how we can ever severely reduce our CO2 output without truly powering down the engines of Capitalism.

 

[dirtywick]

you listen to people who are constantly wrong

 

[lobosrul5]

What-the-****-ever - you conformist morons are in for one hell of a wake-up.

Whats that wakeup gonna be exactly??? In 30 years, we're mainly on renewable energy and it turns out it wasn't totally necessary? Oh well. Or that it wasn't enough and now its 110F instead of 104F(the actual temp is here right now) in July?

The peace and quite of electric cars in my old age instead of jack-ass-maga-mcfuckhead revving his F-250 or Camaro will be worth it by itself.

 

[lomiller]

you listen to people who are constantly wrong

IsThisTheLife listens to people that consistently lie

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Whats that wakeup gonna be exactly??? In 30 years, we're mainly on renewable energy and it turns out it wasn't totally necessary? Oh well. Or that it wasn't enough and now its 110F instead of 104F(the actual temp is here right now) in July?

Yeh! Yay!! It's gonna be great! I can't wait! Limitless progress!

 

[lobosrul5]

Yeh! Yay!! It's gonna be great! I can't wait! Limitless progress!

 

[gnome]

If you want to impress with your superior intellect, throwing out claims and refusing to back them up doesn't really help.

 

[IsThisTheLife]

If you want to impress with your superior intellect, throwing out claims and refusing to back them up doesn't really help.

You prove it day in, day out. I find it amusing.