Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

[Belz...]

If it was the root cause, it would be. But it's not. apparently I just suck at explaining my viewpoints.

Hey, welcome to the club.

I thought that the EU parliament was basically a larger version of our UK parliament. It isn't. It sacrifices thoroughness in the name of efficiency and as a result a lot of EU legislation is poorly drafted.

Do you mean 'efficiency' as in 'speed'? Personally I think governments changing things slowly is usually preferable.

You might want to check the figures. In most of the western world smoking prevalence has declined markedly since about 2010, and the biggest reason for that is technological.

I'm sorry, why do I have to check the figures?

I didn't vote on a whim. I voted because I thought at the time that leaving the EU and it's unrepresentative democracy was the long term best option, and that the pain caused by leaving it would be shorter term and manageable.

Fair enough. You calling it a protest vote when you didn't think it would pass sure sounded like it was a whim.

 

[Tolls]

I would say the opposite.

Sorry, that last sentence was a bit of a rush.

Should have read:
...surely that falls under the remit of "trade regulation".

 

[BobTheCoward]

Sorry, that last sentence was a bit of a rush.

Should have read:
...surely that falls under the remit of "trade regulation".

And I disagree.

 

[GnaGnaMan]

And I disagree.

What regulations are desirable for facilitating trade then?

 

[GlennB]

What regulations are desirable for facilitating trade then?

Oooh ... having read a lot of Bob's stuff I suspect the answer might be "Whatever both sides feel is right, even if they're not the same regulations"

 

[BobTheCoward]

Oooh ... having read a lot of Bob's stuff I suspect the answer might be "Whatever both sides feel is right, even if they're not the same regulations"

Wrong. The correct answer is I have no opinion on the question asked. I didn't express an interest in facilitating trade.

 

[GnaGnaMan]

Wrong. The correct answer is I have no opinion on the question asked. I didn't express an interest in facilitating trade.

Yes, I can see that. Let me try differently:
What does fall under the remit of trade regulation?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Rolls-Royce confirms transfer of work from Derby to Germany

Rolls-Royce has announced that it will be shifting work from Derby to Germany to limit disruption caused by Brexit .

The company confirmed in a trading update today that it is to transfer design approval work for its large aero engines away from Derby.


Engines designed and built by the firm, which has its civil aerospace division in Sinfin ,have to be signed off by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

There is uncertainty as to how this aircraft safety and design approval process would work when the UK leaves the European Union.


https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/rolls-royce-confirms-transfer-work-2319550

 

[BobTheCoward]

Yes, I can see that. Let me try differently:
What does fall under the remit of trade regulation?

A non exhaustive list is tariff rates.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Rolls-Royce confirms transfer of work from Derby to Germany

Rolls-Royce has announced that it will be shifting work from Derby to Germany to limit disruption caused by Brexit .

The company confirmed in a trading update today that it is to transfer design approval work for its large aero engines away from Derby.


Engines designed and built by the firm, which has its civil aerospace division in Sinfin ,have to be signed off by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

There is uncertainty as to how this aircraft safety and design approval process would work when the UK leaves the European Union.


https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/rolls-royce-confirms-transfer-work-2319550

Not sure this is 'disruption' from Brexit or 'uncertainty'- it looks fairly straightforward case that European approval work has to be done in Europe and not some backwater 3rd country that thinks it is important. This is what was intended for Brexit.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Even if sanity prevails, and we do cancel Brexit. I wonder how much we will lose anyway through moves that have already taken place or at least signed off, agencies that have moved and future moves to hedge against the possibility we decide to go through this national exercise in self harm again at some point in the future.

 

[3point14]

Even if sanity prevails, and we do cancel Brexit. I wonder how much we will lose anyway through moves that have already taken place or at least signed off, agencies that have moved and future moves to hedge against the possibility we decide to go through this national exercise in self harm again at some point in the future.

Almost as much as we'll have lost in international credibility.

None of those that have moved will come back after the cancellation of the madness.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Almost as much as we'll have lost in international credibility.

None of those that have moved will come back after the cancellation of the madness.

Further, now that the ICJ has ruled that a country can unilaterally cancel article 50, it will be another tool for the remainers to try and use whenever it is too their advantage. The fact it can just be stopped means they know they can get away with it.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Further, now that the ICJ has ruled that a country can unilaterally cancel article 50, it will be another tool for the remainers to try and use whenever it is too their advantage. The fact it can just be stopped means they know they can get away with it.

Do you mean "another tool for the leavers to try and use..."? Remainers, in general, aren't actually trying to change anything.

Dave

 

[BobTheCoward]

Do you mean "another tool for the leavers to try and use..."? Remainers, in general, aren't actually trying to change anything.

Dave

Thank you.

 

[Strawberry]

Further, now that the ICJ has ruled that a country can unilaterally cancel article 50, it will be another tool for the remainers to try and use whenever it is too their advantage. The fact it can just be stopped means they know they can get away with it.

You mean the ECJ.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

The German Bundestag has voted to confirm that the WA cannot be renegotiated. TM's visit to Merkel obviously did the trick!

 

[dudalb]

The real problem is that some in Great Britian just do not want to accept that Great Britian is a part of Europe.

 

[BobTheCoward]

You mean the ECJ.

This is worse than when my friend from India tried to teach me the rules of cricket. Too many new terms.

 

[a_unique_person]

Oh well. Let's just muddle on to the next disaster then, shall we?