Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

[Vixen]

I'd really like some very high profile prosecutions.

I can't see that happening. Something is very, very rotten at no. 10

Definitely hiding something. Imagine if Arron Banks had ploughed in an illicit £6million into the remain campaign with doubt it was his own money. There would be Select Committee investigations all over the place and a re-run.

 

[Vixen]

It is certainly an admission that the Remain campaign was not very good. Even the remainers were not very enthusiastic about the EU and nobody made a clear case for why it is a good idea to not shred nearly all international agreements and then trying to negotiate new ones. The remainers did not even bother to explain what the EU is and what it does.

I seriously believe it was the front page campaigns by non-UK, invested newspapers who swung the vote. They know the power of a tabloid front page. Both the SUN and the DAILY MAIL urged the public to vote 'Leave'.

With a readerhip fo over ten million between them, they only needed a small margin of ignorant readers to swing it.

 

[fagin]

Sun and DM readers are ignorant by default.

 

[jimbob]

I'm... intrigued by May's idea of a TV debate.

What's the point if there's no meaningful vote by the public?

 

[3point14]

I'm... intrigued by May's idea of a TV debate.

What's the point if there's no meaningful vote by the public?

Propaganda.

Low risk propaganda too, if done on the BBC, an organisation that has completely lost its testicles in relation to Brexit.

There's something deeply fishy there too.

 

[Vixen]

Propaganda.

Low risk propaganda too, if done on the BBC, an organisation that has completely lost its testicles in relation to Brexit.

There's something deeply fishy there too.

No wonder May is jittery about it, as she is a lousy debater, relying heavily on rehearsed sound bites ('it's in the national interest') and repetition ('Brexit means Brexit'; 'We are leaving 29 March 2019'). She needs to substitute Amber Rudd, who comes across much more convincingly, as she did in the initial debate. Corbyn will run circles around her.

She relies on personal jibes, he is deadly in how he strikes.

 

[BobTheCoward]

So by that analogy, the cheating Russian athletes should not have been excluded from the Olympics. So it is all right for colluding Russians to tamper with other countries' elections and referendums?

I didn't say there shouldnt be punishment for cheaters. I'm simply unsympathetic to inability to defeat a cheater. Get good.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I didn't say there shouldnt be punishment for cheaters. I'm simply unsympathetic to inability to defeat a cheater. Get good.

So deontological libertarianism is a crap political philosophy.

Dave

 

[BobTheCoward]

So deontological libertarianism is a crap political philosophy.

Dave

Not a deontological libertarian position

 

[Information Analyst]

Low risk propaganda too, if done on the BBC, an organisation that has completely lost its testicles in relation to Brexit.

I was a bit surprised the other day when a reporter mentioned the end of free movement in the form of EU citizens coming to the UK, and also pointed out it applied to Brits moving to Europe, as well. A rare occurrence....

 

[BobTheCoward]

Is there a scenario where remainers MPs vote against the deal in hopes of a referendum and then don't get one? That would suck.

 

[fagin]

It already sucks....

 

[ponderingturtle]

I was a bit surprised the other day when a reporter mentioned the end of free movement in the form of EU citizens coming to the UK, and also pointed out it applied to Brits moving to Europe, as well. A rare occurrence....

Wait for all the pensioners in spain getting deported back to the UK.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Great idea. Next time I'm on a judo mat I'm bringing my swords and let the other guy strive for exceptionalism.

Well, I haven't lost a game of chess since I started bringing my baseball bat.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Wait for all the pensioners in spain getting deported back to the UK.

Not to mention all the pensioners who live most of the year in the UK but have second homes out there for the coldest months. There are a bunch of thgem round my way, all of which pontificated (unconvincingly) for Leave.

 

[Vixen]

Not to mention all the pensioners who live most of the year in the UK but have second homes out there for the coldest months. There are a bunch of thgem round my way, all of which pontificated (unconvincingly) for Leave.

...Like turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Is there a scenario where remainers MPs vote against the deal in hopes of a referendum and then don't get one? That would suck.

It's inevitable.

 

[Klimax]

...Like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Or dinosaurs for asteroid.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Is there a scenario where remainers MPs vote against the deal in hopes of a referendum and then don't get one?

Yes, it's actually a very likely scenario if May utterly refuses to countenance a second referendum, and it's the one the swivel-eyed loons probably want the most.

That would suck.

Yes. At the moment it's difficult to see any outcome that doesn't.

Dave

 

[3point14]

Yes. At the moment it's difficult to see any outcome that doesn't.

Dave

Since before any vote was had it was obvious it was going to suck, but the journalist mostly gave up, the politicians lied and the experts were ignored.

It's a **** up of the mightiest order. I doubt trials for treason will follow, but they bloody well should.