Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Bjarne]

We're all going to look pretty silly then

Except cows

 

[Reality Check]

Did you notice the word; “huge”?
Yes, - Jupiter has more heat in its atmosphere as expected (coming from an unknown source) but not something you can compare to the huge heat convection in the Earth atmosphere.

You are showing your ignorance again, Bjarne: Jupiter does not have the same atmosphere as the Earth !

Off course we have far from a full overview of what causes the many storms / hurricane created on Jupiter or other gas planets; - so long we even have not the full overview of what causing (etc) hurricanes on Earth.

So what?
We have a good "overview" of what causes the many storms / hurricane created on Jupiter or other gas planets and on Earth.
You are talking like those crackpots who say that we have no perfect knowledge of anything and so all science is wrong. What these cranks do not realize is that

1. Science is the process of getting closer and closer to perfect knowledge. No sane person expects science to have perfect knowledge.
2. The fantasies that they come up with are imperfect and so wrong according to their definition!

Off course heat release on the gas planets also are ingredients of hurricane, but since many of these hurricanes are hundreds of times larger than on earth, central gravity is also proportional larger.

No: "central gravity" is a fantasy in your head.
Real gravity that actually exists and has been measured for centuries has a factor to play in all hurricanes.
The gas-giant hurricanes are larger than on Earth because gas-giants are bigger than Earth ! Another astounding bit of ignorqance from you Bjarne.

...snipped cow logic and more ignorance...
If the weight of Jupiter’s big hurricane is 1000 times the mass of a hurricane at earth, then also gravity are 1000 times stronger involved? – And off course also the heat release from Jupiter is involved.

Of course the mass of the Red Spot is involved but mass of Jupiter dominates. Any mass that is 1000 times the mass of another mass has 1000 times the gravity.
Of course also the heat release from Jupiter is involved. As is the heat release from the oceans in the formation and maintenance of Earth's hurricanes.

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads​

 

[Bjarne]

Bjarne
Did you notice the word; “huge”?
Yes, - Jupiter has more heat in its atmosphere as expected (coming from an unknown source) but not something you can compare to the huge heat convection in the Earth atmosphere.
RC
You are showing your ignorance again, Bjarne: Jupiter does not have the same atmosphere as the Earth

To make a long history short.

• I think everybody agrees that hurricanes at gas planet are bigger mysteries, or (at least) less understood as hurricanes on Earth.
• The formation of hurricanes on Earth are, (as also you agree) not fully understood.

We have a good "overview" of what causes the many storms / hurricane created on Jupiter or other gas planets and on Earth.

Ohhh RC, - and you have been at a university in 17 years.
Have they really not learn you to check blab blab la –
It is so simple to do it
For exsample this > http://www.astronomy-education.com/index.php?page=76 –

A completely brain damage cow that still can either read or hear will understand that hurricane on Jupiter not is understood, and that we even have failed to understand which thesis to support.

You are talking like those crackpots who say that we have no perfect knowledge of anything and so all science is wrong. What these cranks do not realize is that

1. Science is the process of getting closer and closer to perfect knowledge. No sane person expects science to have perfect knowledge.
2. The fantasies that they come up with are imperfect and so wrong according to their definition!

You are so prejudiced my dear, - tell me now the true, - are your anti-crackpot glasses really more dark inside as inside black hole?

Real gravity that actually exists and has been measured for centuries has a factor to play in all hurricanes.
The gas-giant hurricanes are larger than on Earth because gas-giants are bigger than Earth ! Another astounding bit of ignorance from you Bjarne.

Professor RC
Tell me know honestly do you know what Wikipedia is:

Here you can read :

The formation of tropical cyclones is the topic of extensive ongoing research and is still not fully understood........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone

Without evidence. - I do not expect that it is possible to convince many, how central gravity is the cause of any big or weak low-pressure begin to rotate.

But soon it will be proven that central gravity is disgracefully misunderstood ; - this is the day you’ll also be forces to accept that gravity is involved in much more than you ever dreamed about, - and also how any low pressure begins to rotate.

And my dear as I wrote, the problem is NOT only Hurricanes....

• Hurricanes on planet Earth are NOT fully understood
• Hurricanes on planet Gas planet are NOT fully understood
• Or hole in she cloads, such a simple thing are NOT fully understood
• The cause of tornadoes is also are NOT fully understood.
• According to low pressure in general, we believe in a certain thesis, (serveral exsist) - But in fact also weak low pressure are NOT fully understood

So RC
Now when you (hopefully know what Wikipedia is, you can also read this).
But I think it will not give more than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000002% sense to you, you know also because of the anti crackpot glasses.

Meteorology is a relatively young science and the study of tornadoes is newer still. Although researched for about 140 years and intensively for around 60 years, there are still aspects of tornadoes which remain a mystery.[104]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado

 

[Reality Check]

To make a long history short.

• I think everybody agrees that hurricanes at gas planet are bigger mysteries, or (at least) less understood as hurricanes on Earth.
• The formation of hurricanes on Earth are, (as also you agree) not fully understood.

We agree there because it is obvious: hurricanes are not fully understood.

Ohhh RC, - and you have been at a university in 17 years.
Have they really not learn you to check blab blab la –
It is so simple to do it
For exsample this > http://www.astronomy-education.com/index.php?page=76 –

A completely brain damage cow that still can either read or hear will understand that hurricane on Jupiter not is understood, and that we even have failed to understand which thesis to support.

Ohhh Bjarne, And you are so full of 17 years of ignorance! Have the cows not taught you to think before you write? It is simple to do.
Don't call yourself less intelligent than a brain damaged cow Bjarne!

We agree: hurricanes are not fully understood.
You are doubly wrong in citing this web page:

1. It is just about the Great Red Spot, not the storms ion gas-giants in general.
2. It states that there are several different theories based on valid physics about how the GRS formed.
   These theories are not based on a crackpot's ignorance of basic math and science ignorance as displayed in this forum.

You are so prejudiced my dear, - tell me now the true, - are your anti-crackpot glasses really more dark inside as inside black hole?

Youu are so ignorant my dear, - tell me now the true, - are your crackpot glasses really more dark inside as inside black hole?

Professor RC
Tell me know honestly do you know what Wikipedia is:

Here you can read :

Kindergarten student,Bjarne
We agree: hurricanes are not fully understood.

...snipped delustional "central gravity" and Bjarne's crackpost obsession with things not being "fully understood"...
So RC
Now when you (hopefully know what Wikipedia is, you can also read this).
But I think it will not give more than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000002% sense to you, you know also because of the anti crackpot glasses.

So Bjarne
Now when you (hopefully know what science is, you can also read this).
But I think it will not give more than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000002% sense to you, you know also because of the crackpot glasses.

Seriously - is your mind so condused that you cannot remember the many links to Wikipedia I have given you?
Wikipedia is a useful resource for information. That information must be talen skeptically beacuse of the open source nature of Wikipedia.

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads​

 

[Bjarne]

We agree: hurricanes are not fully understood.

A little step for Mandkind
A big step for RC

 

[Bjarne]

Hole in the clouds

Fallstreak holes (punch hole clouds) are a very strange weather phenomenon that is not understood.
http://www.xearththeory.com/fallstreakholes_cloudarcstructures_crabclouds.html

these are not fully understood by meteorologists or scientists yet. All/both have their own theories.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dltbluefrog/4413731658/

cyclones

The formation of tropical cyclones is the topic of extensive ongoing research and is still not fully understood........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/tropical_cyclone

scientific understanding of atmospheric processes, though highly advanced, is incomplete and imperfect.
While much is known about hurricanes, far more remains to be discovered.
Scientists don't fully understand, for example, the process of tropical cyclogenesis (genesis of tropical cyclones).
They don't know precisely how it occurs, or why some tropical disturbances generate into hurricanes, while others, which may meet all the known requirements for hurricane formation, fail to develop
http://www.hurrnet.com/tutorial/expectations/limitations.html

hurricanes

eyewall: The eyewall is a circular band of intense convection and winds immediately surrounding the eye. It is home to the most severe conditions in a tropical cyclone. Intense cyclones show eye-wall replacement cycles, in which outer eye walls form to replace inner ones. The mechanisms which make this occur are still not fully understood.
http://www.armageddononline.org/tropical-storm.html

observations made during the historic 2005 hurricane season document a case of "eyewall replacement."
clouds outside the hurricane eyewall coalesce to form a new eyewall at a greater radius from the storm center, and the old eyewall dies.
The winds in the new eyewall are initially weaker than those in the original eyewall, but as the new eyewall contracts, the storm reintensifies. Understanding this replacement mechanism is vital to forecasting variations in hurricane intensity.
Processes in the "moat" region between the new and old eyewall have been particularly unclear.
Aircraft data now show that the moat becomes dynamically similar to the eye and thus is converted into a region inimical to survival of the inner eyewall.
We suggest that targeting aircraft to key parts of the storm to gain crucial input to high-resolution numerical models can lead to improvements in forecasting hurricane intensity.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/315/5816/1235

the general mechanisms by which the eye and eyewall are formed are not fully understood, although observations have shed some light on the problem. The calm eye of the tropical cyclone shares many qualitative characteristics with other vortical systems such as tornadoes, waterspouts, dust devils and whirlpools.
http://www.cppj.net/index.aspx?page=140

tornadoes

what finally produces a tornado? By some mechanism not fully understood, the circulation in the storm's lower levels may tighten into a narrow cylinder, elongate, and speed up, much as figure skaters spin faster by pulling in their arms.
http://www.ucar.edu/communications/factsheets/tornadoes.html

exactly how tornadoes form is complex and not fully understood.
http://www.experts123.com/q/how-does-a-tornado-form.html

So in general, simple and short, - I think we easy can conclude, that scientist do not understand (mainly) the central area of all kind of low pressures.

What about central gravity > http://www.science27.com - much stronger as we thought?
I mean just an "idea" right?

 

[Reality Check]

A little step for Mandkind
A big step for RC

I have always stated that hurricanse are not fully understood - you have just not been able to comprehend that this means nothing.

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads​

 

[Reality Check]

So in general, simple and short, - I think we easy can conclude, that scientist do not understand (mainly) the central area of all kind of low pressures.

What about central gravity > http://www.science27.com - much stronger as we thought?
I mean just an "idea" right?

In simple terms, I know that we can conclude that that scientists do not understand (mainly) the central area of all kind of low pressures.
So what?

"central gravity" is a fantasy of a crackpot. Something that does not exist can never get stronger, just read:

Bjarne's idea is wrong (acceleration due to gravity is constant inside a sphere).​

First asked 2 November 2009​

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from:

The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads
(original full list to which more points have been linked)​

Definitely a really bad "idea" and nothing else, Bjarne

 

[Paul]

Hole in the clouds

cyclones

hurricanes

tornadoes

So in general, simple and short, - I think we easy can conclude, that scientist do not understand (mainly) the central area of all kind of low pressures.

Apparently you can conclude that; other people can read the links and actually see the word fully.

As you seem to be having trouble with that word, perhaps I should point out that according to several dictionaries, it means: entirely or wholly; to the greatest degree or extent; totally; entirely; in a full manner or degree.

You might have noticed that the various definitions have something in common. None of them even imply that the phrase 'not fully understand' would indicate a low level of understanding; in fact it only claims that, as we already know, science does not understand subjects in complete, total, and final detail. Your disingenuousness on the subject of actual scientific knowledge is, at the very least, tiresome and will certainly not advance your position.

What about central gravity ... much stronger as we thought?

Again with the we.

I mean just an "idea" right?

Yep, and apparently not a very good one.

 

[MRC_Hans]

So, Bjarne: If your 'Kolding Effect' (remember, 'Central Gravity' is already taken) causes hurricanes, tell us, how does the column of air involved in a hurricane "know" that it must have a unified gravity? Why aren't the columns next to it involved?

Do you realize that the body of air involved in a hurricane is lighter than the surrounding air?

Have you thought this through at all?

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

So, Bjarne: If your 'Kolding Effect' (remember, 'Central Gravity' is already taken) causes hurricanes, tell us, how does the column of air involved in a hurricane "know" that it must have a unified gravity? Why aren't the columns next to it involved?

I do (far from) fully understand you question.
Let me answer based on the incompletely understanding I got..

Let's imaging a low pressure area of 500 km², carrying an average of 100 kg water per m² (total 5 * 10¹³ kg ).

This is a pretty heavy mass.
Near the centre of a such low pressure we should (according to this theory) expect acceleration due to gravity about 0,00002 m/s².

Even though this is not much, we must remember that wind blowing towards the centre of a low pressure will keep accelerating (second by second / day by day) due to the force of gravity.

After one day/night (86400 seconds) a water molecule blowing in the direction of the center can have reach a velocity about 1.73 m/s².
After 10 days 17,3 m/s². (62 km/h) etc, only caused by gravity.
This is off course provided that the air also can escape, - which mean there is or can be established a high pressure nearby. (and no resistance for exsample from Earth gravity)

Rising heat will (off course) speed up the process much more.
The time low pressures exist is hence also very important regarding to how fast wind it will reach.

Because we have underestimated the strength and importance of central gravity, we have also failed to understand a very important factor responsible for the start of low pressure (and hurricanes).

Can Bill Gates stop hurricanes? http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/08/28/hurricanes.gates.gray

Could Powder Kill A Hurricane?
Florida Man Thinks His Powder Could 'Absorb' A Hurricane
http://www.wesh.com/news/3963137/detail.html

This Florida man is almost absolutely right.
BUT he should do it west from central Africa.
It would be 1000 times cheaper.

When a huge thunder clouds system begins to gather and rotate in the area west from central africa, this is the right time and place to attack these.

(I am against to use any kind of poison (chemicals) different kind of dust can also trigger water release from heavy thunder clouds. )

A Thunder cloud system must release so much of their mass as possible, - as early in the process as possible - this will weaken the gravitionel center between these, and this will prevent them to gather together and begin to rotate.

It is only the rotation that is dangerous, if this process first have begun, central gravity is unstoppable, and will fast pull HUGE – HUGE – HUGE amount of vapors, - this will increase the heat suck from the ocean enormous, and this upwards air motion will trap more water and also prevent rain from falling, until the hurricane reach land, where the heat from the ocean no more can cause the upwards motion of warm air and vapors .

First when rain will begin to fall, (billion of ton water), - THEN – HUGE amount of mass will fall THEN the hurricane will die.

Advice:
Fight the hurricane long before reaching America, just when the very first signs show ROTATION !

BARACK OBAMA, YES we can. (So long we do not underestimate central gravity).
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[ArcturusA]

Let's imaging a low pressure area of 500 km², carrying an average of 100 kg water per m² (total 5 * 10¹³ kg ).

This is a pretty heavy mass.
Near the centre of a such low pressure we should (according to this theory) expect acceleration due to gravity about 0,00002 m/s².

Even though this is not much, we must remember that wind blowing towards the centre of a low pressure will keep accelerating (second by second / day by day) due to the force of gravity.

After one day/night (86400 seconds) a water molecule blowing in the direction of the center can have reach a velocity about 1.73 m/s².
After 10 days 17,3 m/s². (62 km/h) etc, only caused by gravity.
This is off course provided that the air also can escape, - which mean there is or can be established a high pressure nearby. (and no resistance for exsample from Earth gravity)

That's some bad maths, Bjarne. You're 1000x out.
The mass of water is 5 * 10¹⁰ kg, which gives you 0.0173m/s (not m/s²!), or 0.063 km/h after 10 whole days!

And you say this causes hurricanes?

 

[Bjarne]

That's some bad maths, Bjarne. You're 1000x out.
The mass of water is 5 * 10¹⁰ kg, which gives you 0.0173m/s (not m/s²!), or 0.063 km/h after 10 whole days!

And you say this causes hurricanes?

I mean 500 km in radius or diameter

If the shape was a square and radius 500 km
500000 meter * 500000 meter * 100Kg/m² = 5*10¹³ Kg.

Round radius 250 km.
Radius 250000 meter * 250000 meter * 3,14 * 100Kg/m² = 1.96*10¹³ Kg.

How much water per sqaure meter does a hurricane carry ?

 

[MRC_Hans]

I do (far from) fully understand you question.
Let me answer based on the incompletely understanding I got..

Perhaps your understanding would be more complete if you had actually read my short post:

The air inside a hurricane, or a thunderstorm, of even a normal cloud, is lighter than the surrounding air. Also, water vapor is lighter than air.

Your pull of gravity would be away from the center, because the surrounding, denser air has a greater gravitational pull.

And the reason the air inside the cloud/thunderstorm/hurricane is lighter is, of course, that the pressure is lower.

Let's imaging a low pressure area of 500 km², carrying an average of 100 kg water per m² (total 5 * 10¹³ kg ).

This is a pretty heavy mass.
Near the centre of a such low pressure we should (according to this theory) expect acceleration due to gravity about 0,00002 m/s².


Even though this is not much, we must remember that wind blowing towards the centre of a low pressure will keep accelerating (second by second / day by day) due to the force of gravity.

Except, even if your calulations were right (and not a factor of 1000 off), there is such a thing as friction. The only place where an acceleration of 0,00002 m/s² can accelerate anything to any speed is in outer space. Even in the higher atmosphere, the friction loss to the surrounding body of air will be higher than this feeble acceleration.

But I do notice that you finally discovered that acceleration is rated in m/s². That is one step forward for cow logic, bravo!

This is off course provided that the air also can escape, - which mean there is or can be established a high pressure nearby. (and no resistance for exsample from Earth gravity)

I think I suggested a few days ago that you read up on meteorology. If you had done that, you would know that a low pressure is there because the air is already escaping (upwards).

First when rain will begin to fall, (billion of ton water), - THEN – HUGE amount of mass will fall THEN the hurricane will die.

Wrong again. Read up on this for pete's sake! The rain increases the energy of the storm, because as water condenses, it releases heat energy. The more it rains, the more it storms.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

I mean 500 km in radius or diameter

If the shape was a square and radius 500 km
500000 meter * 500000 meter * 100Kg/m² = 5*10¹³ Kg.

Round radius 250 km.
Radius 250000 meter * 250000 meter * 3,14 * 100Kg/m² = 1.96*10¹³ Kg.

How much water per sqaure meter does a hurricane carry ?

Bjarne, don't you find it a little bit odd that you think you are wiser than the rest of us, but you still have to ask about all sorts of things?

But this is a nice little exercise for you:

The molecular mass of water is 18.02 g/mol

The average molecular mass of air (approx. 79% nitrogen, N2; 21% oxygen, O2) is 28.57 g/mol at standard temperature and pressure (STP).

The saturation fraction of water at 30degC is about 3%.

So with this starter help your homework is as follows:

1) Find the volume of your hurricane (not just the area). So you must find the hight.

2) Find the density of air.

3) Find the weight of the air in the hurricane.

4) Take 3% of that and you have the mass of the water in it.

-- The use of Google is allowed.

Have fun!

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

The air inside a hurricane, or a thunderstorm, of even a normal cloud, is lighter than the surrounding air.

No
This is because of the heat buoyancy and warm air is lighter than cold air.
But air reaching a hurricanes clouds is longer moving upward, and no longer warm, its energy have already been used, and the vapor begins to condensate.
Cold air falling from higher altitude (high pressure) is colder and also heavier.

Also, water vapor is lighter than air.

Warm water vapors is only lighter only until it condensate (and finally) falls as cold heavy rain.

Your pull of gravity would be away from the center, because the surrounding, denser air has a greater gravitational pull.

Have you ever hear about heavy clouds?
Why do you believe hailstones can be huge? -Let me tell you, because of strong upwards wind prevent these to fall down?
Or do you also believe hailstones and billion of ton raindrops (that really want to fall to the Earth) are lighter than air?

And the reason the air inside the cloud/thunderstorm/hurricane is lighter is, of course, that the pressure is lower.

The pressure is lower when the warm air is rising (measured from Earth) It is the temperature + the upwards buoyancy that causing low-pressure under the heavy clouds.
Why do you believe it gets colder after a thunder storm, have released its heavy cold load ?
Evidence > http://www.steampunk.dk/wp-content/uploads/mont03.jpg

The barometer is really ONLY a weight measuring how much stronger the weight of warm air is, + how much upwards motion there is under the heavy clouds, - exactly like you are lighter (measured from earth) when a elevator pulls you upwards doesn’t matter if there is a heavy thundercloud above you head or not.

The rain increases the energy of the storm, because as water condenses, it releases heat energy. The more it rains, the more it storms.

Nonsense like the rest of your load.
The upwards heat carries the energy for keeping a storm strong.
When it have reach it target the energy is already lost.
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[Bjarne]

Bjarne, don't you find it a little bit odd that you think you are wiser than the rest of us, but you still have to ask about all sorts of things?
No I don’t think so

I do not say everybody are stupid, - but only that there are too stupid many prejudiced and too stupid many reserved, and too stupid many authoritarian believers, and too stupid many lazy, and too stupid many orthodox believers, and too stupid too much brainwash, and too stupid too many inflexibilities, and too stupid too little Openness.

You know too much concrete in the auditory meatus can never be an advantage, but unfortunately many stupid people believe it is.
But you know religion is many times just too much for my weak nervous system. .
Cows doesn’t have all these unnecessarily problems.
All THIS is why intelligent cows are so much ahead of us.

So with this starter help your homework is as follows:
1) Find the volume of your hurricane (not just the area). So you must find the hight.
2) Find the density of air.
3) Find the weight of the air in the hurricane.
4) Take 3% of that and you have the mass of the water in it.

Really Hans it is not my problem.
I do not get a hurricane in my head every second week comrade, and even if I calculated it all, 898 % exactly, - I am afraid that only cows would clap their hoofs , and the jalousie would grove even bigger between humans..

Because according to Karl Marx and the dear Jantelov we must all be equal stupid, so that everyone can be happy, - comrade Hans.

And you know this still is the reality in the Orthodox Authoritarian Marxists Leninist Scientific Ssocieties (World Wide) . (not in the cow logic society) .

This is why we still are working on the same old 100 years old “Lada design” in the holy scientific communities. ..

 

[MRC_Hans]

No
This is because of the heat buoyancy and warm air is lighter than cold air.
But air reaching a hurricanes clouds is longer moving upward, and no longer warm, its energy have already been used, and the vapor begins to condensate.
Cold air falling from higher altitude (high pressure) is colder and also heavier.

Wrong. It is not a matter of temperature (so much), iti s a matter of pressure. The pressure inside the storm is lower, so the air is less dense = lighter.

Warm water vapors is only lighter only until it condensate (and finally) falls as cold heavy rain.

You are so funny. If there is X tons of water wapor in a cloud, what will it weigh when it condensates?

Have you ever hear about heavy clouds?

No. Heavy clouds would fall down.

Why do you believe hailstones can be huge? -Let me tell you, because of strong upwards wind prevent these to fall down?

That happens to be correct. Why do you think there are such strong upwards winds.

Or do you also believe hailstones and billion of ton raindrops (that really want to fall to the Earth) are lighter than air?

If they were lighter than air they would not fall down. But the water that forms rain and hail comes from water vapor, and the total weight is the same.

The pressure is lower when the warm air is rising (measured from Earth) It is the temperature + the upwards buoyancy that causing low-pressure under the heavy clouds.

And the low pressure means the air in the storm is less dense.

Why do you believe it gets colder after a thunder storm, have released its heavy cold load ?

If it gets colder after a thunderstorm, it is because the thunderstorm was part of a cold-front. It gets colder during a thunderstorm because the hot air rises, and cooler air replaces it.

The barometer is really ONLY a weight measuring how much stronger the weight of warm air is, + how much upwards motion there is under the heavy clouds, - exactly like you are lighter (measured from earth) when a elevator pulls you upwards doesn’t matter if there is a heavy thundercloud above you head or not.

Total nonsense. A barometer measures the pressure. The pressure falls because the density of the column of air becomes lower.

The upwards heat carries the energy for keeping a storm strong.
When it have reach it target the energy is already lost.

No. Most of the energy comes from condensing water wapor.

Bjarne, you obviously know next to nothing about meteorology. I suggest you avoid the subject.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

I do not say everybody are stupid, - but only that there are too stupid many prejudiced and too stupid many reserved, and too stupid many authoritarian believers, and too stupid many lazy, and too stupid many orthodox believers, and too stupid too much brainwash, and too stupid too many inflexibilities, and too stupid too little Openness.

You claim to know better than everybody else. Ergo, do you claim to be smarter than us. Yet, you need help with even simple calculations.

Really Hans it is not my problem.
I do not get a hurricane in my head every second week comrade, and even if I calculated it all, 898 % exactly, - I am afraid that only cows would clap their hoofs , and the jalousie would grove even bigger between humans..

Translation: Bjarne cannot solve even that simple math problem i have given him. Well, Bjarne it ain't my problem, either.

Because according to Karl Marx and the dear Jantelov

Karl Marx ... Jantelov. What has Marx to do with that?

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

I am realizing what keeps at least me posting here. I'm simply fascinated and intrigued to see just how deep Blarne will manage to dig himself in. And he never ceases to surprise: Just when he seemed to loose steam on gravity, he switches to meteorology.

Heavy clouds, indeed. Well, to his defence, there is an expression in Danish that directly translates to 'heavy clouds', but this does not, of course, refer to the weight of them, just to the looks.

Hans