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Bjarne, you don't show where the math is wrong with the standing scientific theories, and you don't show the math to correct it, so why should we even start to think you're right.
Paul
Measurement will show ADG towards a centre of a homogeneous mass NOT is decreasing
The math is simple like that >
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5929509&postcount=567
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There's not enough **** coming out of the bull to represent your hypothesis.
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Apart from the fact that it would take a lot more than 10N to keep a bull in tow, it has absolutely nothing to do with elementary spin or electron orbits.
At least you realise that much.
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Nothing is wrong except you have posted a stupid moo cow picture.
- Cows are smart. That cow will turn around and kill the cowboy.
- It has nothing to do with the spin of elementary particles.
- It especially has nothing to do the quantum mechanical electron orbitals.
You know this and are deluded enough to post the picture again: - If we replace the cow with a moon, the man with a planet and the rope with gravity then we get an physically correct picture that has something to do with gravity. That is the picture that is high school students often see.
You are just displaying the ignorance you displayed in The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads and Yet another fundemantally flawed idea from Bjarne.
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WRONG
Maybe the cowboy have a (hidden) gun.
Cows are suspicious.
And you know i wrote the bull really want to escape the orbit nothing else.
Ohh in the end it has.
No this image is really a open door to understand much more of gravity, so now OPEN YOU EYES.
You are ahead the point now.
Now seriously
WHAT is obviously wrong here
Why don't you save us all a bit of time and tell us what you think is wrong.
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Eyes and brains can be and have been fooled, seeing is not a test.
Maybe with your books we can't, but real science books we can.
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Here is the correct answer
The Cowboy is not a real cowboy but only a wimp.
He properly could not even hold a big dog in orbit, simply because he can not resist the pull of the bull.
This image (below) is closer to reality.
In the same way, the Earth must be able to resist the moons "attempt" to escape.
Exactly like the bull transfer force back on the cowboy, so does the Moon transfer force back on Earth.
Due to that the Earth rotate with a certoan speed, this is because increasing rotation speed also give the Earth increasing resistance against motion (agianst rotation).
The speed of the Earth's rotation must reflect the excact energy that is caused due to the Moons attempt to escape.
The Moon (image above) keep increasing the Earth rotation speed exactly until the rotation resistance counteracts the force necessary to keep the Moon in orbit. Not more not less.
It should be logical that the "energy bill" for keeping the Earth rotating, is paid by gravity.
But who is paying the energy bill for the resistance against orbit-motion (for keeping the Moon in orbit). ?
The answer is: that the Moon can't distinguish between the resistance for pulling the Earth's rotation, and the resistance against it own orbit motion.
Therefore the force it transfers to the Earth's rotation is already deducted the resistance against its own motion.
Therefore gravity pays both these resistance-energy bills.
This also means that when that when another strong force (another big Moon) suddenly would contribute to keep the Earth rotating much faster, this would force our old Moon further out.
In the same way if the Sun suddenly would rotate faster, the planet would be thrown further out in space.
Seen from this perspective, - retrograde Satellites do not lose altitudes due to resistance, because orbit-gravity always pay all the resistance bills, both for the central bodies rotation and for the orbit motion
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Junk have been replaced with reality > http://www.science27.com/english/Culcu3.htm
This also brings a completely new light to Mercury’s real perihelion anomaly as well >>http://www.science27.com/english/MercuriesAnomaly.htm
So fare this is only a rough draft not corrected to perfect English and not edited either. But you can read and understand.
The Cowboy is not a real cowboy but only a wimp.
He properly could not even hold a big dog in orbit, simply because he can not resist the pull of the bull.
This image (below) is closer to reality.
In the same way, the Earth must be able to resist the moons "attempt" to escape.
Exactly like the bull transfer force back on the cowboy, so does the Moon transfer force back on Earth.
Due to that the Earth rotate with a certoan speed, this is because increasing rotation speed also give the Earth increasing resistance against motion (agianst rotation).
The speed of the Earth's rotation must reflect the excact energy that is caused due to the Moons attempt to escape.
The Moon (image above) keep increasing the Earth rotation speed exactly until the rotation resistance counteracts the force necessary to keep the Moon in orbit. Not more not less.
It should be logical that the "energy bill" for keeping the Earth rotating, is paid by gravity.
But who is paying the energy bill for the resistance against orbit-motion (for keeping the Moon in orbit). ?
The answer is: that the Moon can't distinguish between the resistance for pulling the Earth's rotation, and the resistance against it own orbit motion.
Therefore the force it transfers to the Earth's rotation is already deducted the resistance against its own motion.
Therefore gravity pays both these resistance-energy bills.
This also means that when that when another strong force (another big Moon) suddenly would contribute to keep the Earth rotating much faster, this would force our old Moon further out.
In the same way if the Sun suddenly would rotate faster, the planet would be thrown further out in space.
Seen from this perspective, - retrograde Satellites do not lose altitudes due to resistance, because orbit-gravity always pay all the resistance bills, both for the central bodies rotation and for the orbit motion
FINALLY cracked
The site is updated
Junk have been replaced with reality > http://www.science27.com/english/Culcu3.htm
This also brings a completely new light to Mercury’s real perihelion anomaly as well >>http://www.science27.com/english/MercuriesAnomaly.htm
So fare this is only a rough draft not corrected to perfect English and not edited either. But you can read and understand.
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Hellooooooo, the moon is moving away from the earth, do you know why???
Paul
The earth doesn't give a damn about the moon escaping.
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You are just displaying tthat you have "FINALLY cracked ".
That is a real display of your ignorance:
That is a real display of your ignorance:
- You have added a force that does not exist (the arrow along the path).
Do you want to continue with this basic physics mistake or is this worth of adding to The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads?.
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That's just so far from right that it isn't even in the same galaxy!
Tidal forces and angular momentum exchange (which pushes the Moon farther from the Earth) result in a gradual slowing down of the Earth's rotation speed.
Seriously, go read a basic textbook on Newtonian physics, because you haven't got a clue.
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So what you really tries to do now is telling the wimp – (cowboy) that he has misunderstood it everything.
It is only an illusion that he is too weak to hold the bull.
Because he gets the force back (!)
The little weak cowboy can hold an elephant in orbit too or a tanks or a super tanker in orbit too (?)
Is it THAT what you are trying to say?
And by the way
P L E A S E also answers me the following 2 question:
I mean not an answer like; blab la bla Big blue GR junkyard dimension, but down to normal earth cow logic sense.
1.
When the Moon climbs it is losing energy, WHERE does the energy go?
WHERE does the Kinetic energy goes when it climbs RC ?
Of course you can say it will have “potential energy” when it climbs.
BUT WHERE is “THAT” potential energy?
Out in the big Blue?
WHAT is it ?
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Now when the moon falls the moon increases its KE
WHERE does that energy come from?
Where is the source ?
From gravity yes off course, but what does that mean?
From the Big blue nothing?
This is the direction the bull wants to move, exactly like the tanks want to drive to the North, but according to you, - the wimp gets it into orbit. Just “klaks.”
I am not (only) talking keeping the moon from escaping.
I am also not only talking about a force that keeps the moon in that orbit.
BUT I am talking about that the Earth rotation must be able to RESIST the motion direction that the Moon prefer.
Try to sit in a rowboat put a wire to a super tanker; can you get that ship to orbit around you, can you?
It is not enough to be allied with a 100.000.000 HP diesel engine, if that engine not would have an Anker, and be able to RESIST the direction the super tanker want to move.
So how does the Earth R E S I S T the direction the Moon want to move?
Exactly like even you are superman and is stronger than the bull, it doesn’t help you because the bull is 3 times so heavy, - it will drag you except if you have an Anker.
It is not only a question of force but rather RESISTANCE, - that is the key.
It is simple just rotate the Earth and the Earth will automatically resist that rotation ALSO when constant speed is reached.
There is an invincible elastic wire between the Moon and the Earth. This is the FORCE, - but it is the Earth resistance against rotation that makes it all possible.
Exactly like force and energy from the Bull is transferred to the poor weak cowboy so are force and energy from the Moon transferred to Earth. THIS is the first point to understand.
Don’t believe anyone trying to tell you that the cowboy transfer KE back to the bull.
I can't see where that energy "should" come from, - that should make that possible.
Furthermore do you belive the Moon gives KE to the Earth and one second get's it back
Why should I give you 1 $ when you at the same time want to give me that 1 $ back.
Why should I give you 2 $ when you at the same time want to give me 1 $ back.
It make no sence. ...
The difference is; that the cowboy can’t handle that big energy, -
BUT the Earth is smart, it is using EVERTHIING it get to its own rotation, and the rotation automatically require more and more energy to get diminishing rotate increase.
Which mean there is an automat “brake” build in to the process? If that not was the case the Sun would rotate (at least) as fast as mercury.
Get use to it, you are facing a historic breakthrough, - not so much mathematical, but cow-logic simple, and impossible to understand that it have been ignored in 300 years.
Or if you prefer to believe like they the ancient did, - the Earth is unique, and the law up in the sky do not comprehend the Earth.
Such attitude is completely all right and no problem at all. Just ask RC he can wrap all such incoherent illogical obviously contradiction into beautiful GR-Space paper, and I believe he also is happy to sent this load to the big blue multiple dimension fantasy junkyard. Then this problem is also solved.
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