Sweaty -- Ray Wallace lived in Toledo, Washington and was friends with Fred Beck. He continued to make fake tracks till he died. During his original track-making ventures in the 50's local law enforcement tried to inform the public what Wallace and his crew was up to.
IVAN SANDERSON wrote privately to his friends about what he heard, but in his public articles he continued the standard Bigfoot line that Wallace was a "pragmatic no-nonsense businessman" upset and bewildered by the constant problem of Bigfeet harassing his work sites and nearby locations.
GREEN wrote similar things even though today he claims he always knew Wallace was a hoaxer. He says the prints are real and that Wallace, years later, retroactively created the wooden feet to match them.
ANDREW GENZOLI, the editor of the newspaper originally printing the Wallace articles and investigating the PG film, said that in his opinion Wallace, Gimlin and Patterson were all a bunch of con men.
btw -- How do you know a good suit hasn't already been making appearances? A few creature fx guys have mentioned in the past that they thought it would be fun to stir up things in the way Patterson did. Remember, not all of Patterson's hoaxes were on film or even cast in plaster. They were "witnessed" and recalled later by excited people who glimpsed something. And so it will continue.... this I can assure you
Once again: DFoot never promised anyone a suit. He said he'd share his progress and use the materials he had in his garage. He said he didn't plan on buying a bunch of stuff. THAT is what has been turned into the "you promised us a suit" drivel. It's nonsense... YET I have graciously offered to spend my time doing it if the BFF would pay for it.
Roger had $700 ($4400 in today's money) from the Radfords. That doesn't take into account anything DeAtley might have given him. I told them to kick in $10 each and come up with $1500 (that would be around $230 in 1967) and I'd build it from the ground up. Patterson's suit parts were already made and ready for alteration. Seems to me I'm going way out of my way already. It also appears that it's easier for them to whine the same mantra over and over than face up to actually doing something real.
kitakaze -- Over at the BigFoot Forum
Paul has words tagged at the end of his own posts that reads: "DFoot: "I pulled a hoax..."
What he's doing is an example of what has kept this thing alive so long; taking things out of context and changing the meaning and intent. What I did was the same thing JAMES RANDI does when he shows some URI GELLAR believers how the spoon trick works.
First, you find that you cannot simply give the info because they're already busy typing a counter-attack without understanding what you've tried to explain. So... you have to perform the "trick" in front of them and then show them just enough so that they'll realize that this is how the con man (Uri Gellar in that case, Roger Patterson in mine) is able to fool them.
The full meaning of what I said and did gets lost because it's re-written or taken out of context in little bites. This is an immoral, deceptive practice and because I told Paul and the others this while answering his private emails to me, he has decided that I must be permanently barred from sharing any more information. This is precisely how Scientology and other cults maintain control over their flocks. (*Yes Paul, although mentioning a cult is not allowed over at BFF, here you can call it as you see it.)
"Revising Reality" should be the name of any of the Meldrum monster-laden shows. This stuff is popular and I can understand why. I love it as well. It's fun. But twisting things in order to lie and abusing the faith of people who don't have the ability to see through such schemes is what bothers me about this.
In the end, if it looks like an Elk butt - maybe that is just what it is. If a shady thief is trying to sell you a Bigfoot film, then maybe he really is capable of lying about it being real. Yet even when those involved in the actual hoaxing (Heironimus, the Wallace family, etc..) come forward, a way must be found to discount and even attack them. This is how cults form and myths are born.
Maybe I should get involved in a little myth-making of my own. Ya never know.... Patty Junior may be coming to a wooded area near you in the future. Woooo
Better make sure that's really a Bigfoot and not some kid running over a hill and taking off his gorilla mask during the next Memorial Day Footage event. Otherwise you'll be standing there like DDA with that look on his face when he's being told that "the creature" wasn't seven feet tall (it was 5'4") nor did it run faster than any human (it ran the speed of a kid jogging).
At least you can always do what Meldrum and others have done. Don't like the fact that motion capture reveals Patty is just a guy and there is nothing special about the gait? Just do it over and have the person stand perfectly still while your own experts talk about how "unhuman" Patty
must be.
What's the alternative? Facing up to the fact that hoaxers can fool you? Naww. Dr. Krantz says they don't have the intellect or understanding to fool him. Magicians, psychics and con artists take note.
Suitniks take note of the green shading I've added. It is informative.
I only stopped by over at BFF this holiday season because someone told me a poor make-up man was being dragged into the mess and didn't know what was coming. I figured dropping some real world info in a thread would help all who were interested in the PG FILM from the skeptical side in order to achieve some balance.
If it truly has become a cult, then that cannot be allowed to exist and any excuse must be found to change the meaning of it or erase it. And through it all none of the questions I raised were even answered. Distraction by attack was used. Same method employed by the Scientologist security PR staffers. Some see through that.
Some, however, have seen through the barrage of attacks from panic-stricken people watching a phony con artist's world implode. That's made it all worthwhile.
Next up... the Unicorn.
) did exist in the past.
....everybody go home!"
