Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

[Melissa]

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/buchanan-obit/

My condolences to his family and friends.

Dan was a tremendous man, and a good friend.

 

[Aepervius]

Uhm...
I though about this also... Never wrote a letter about it because I would need to check if the idea is plausible. This would require at least some googling for... For... Hrm... *cough* D!ldos *cough* available back in the 60s... I would also have to write a post (pics included) about my findings. So, I decided just to let this whole issue aside.

Unless we decide to make a "Brokefoot Mountain" thread. Two (or three) cowboys alone in the woods...

Those were available waaaay before the 60th...

 

[kitakaze]

Here we have hit the motherload.

BFRO Class A report:

Forestry worker has various encounters.

Right next to Seattle, multiple bigfoots, males, a female, a child, sagging breasts, humps, talking. The child was only 6 ft, mind you.

 

[kitakaze]

*sniff* *sniff* Funky bigfoot gold, baby.

BFRO Class A report:

Weirdo 2004 Kansas 3ft sideways shuffling little white yeti/ewok thing.

With pictures!

 

[Correa Neto]

Those were available waaaay before the 60th...

OK, but would they dangle?

Suppose PGF showed what was claimed to be a bigfoot with a serious priapirism condition...

Would wee see a PGF supporter say "no one would hoax that thing"?

 

[Correa Neto]

Here we have hit the motherload.

BFRO Class A report:

Forestry worker has various encounters.

Right next to Seattle, multiple bigfoots, males, a female, a child, sagging breasts, humps, talking. The child was only 6 ft, mind you.

Class A...

my boss mike kinda had seen the shadows but tried to convince me it was his boss ken and some secretarys that he brought out into the woods that sometimes he does.

Very reliable, yeah...

*sniff* *sniff* Funky bigfoot gold, baby.

BFRO Class A report:

Weirdo 2004 Kansas 3ft sideways shuffling little white yeti/ewok thing.

With pictures!

Cool, large eyes... Does it looks like Patty?

How bigfeet are supposed to look like, again?

Where is the supposed consistency between the eyewitnesses' descriptions?
Or its just biped and hairy?

Criteria, where are the criteria used to draw the lines and "build" a standard bigfoot? Is its up to each investigator's own concepts and bias?

 

[LTC8K6]

Roger Patterson is one person who would hoax a female bigfoot, though.

 

[Correa Neto]

Evidence?

*sorry, could not resist, it was my Larsen moment of the week*

 

[kitakaze]

All your base are belong to my hat.

Important bigfoot weenie info included.

 

[RayG]

Some people have been moaning about my term "Pattycakes". It simply refers to someone who believes the PGF shows a real Bigfoot.

I guess that's me you hear moaning in the background, I've never thought labels advanced an argument, regardless of how cute or inventive they might be.

Knights mused that the term connotates a childish game.

Kinda like his own self-invented term 'scoftic'.

This wasn't my thinking and instead I imagined a pancake. LOL. Nobody is being forced to use the term. The obvious alternative is something like "PGF Believer".

The obvious alternative is to refrain from using emotive/loaded terms and labels.

"Suitnik" seems to work as a term to describe anyone who thinks the PGF subject is somebody in a suit or costume. I'll give you guys two new terms you can use for the special sub-category of Suitniks who believe that Bob Heironimus was inside the suit that is shown in the PGF. Around here, I might be the only one. You can call me a "Bobsucker" (suckered into thinking BH is Patty), or if you want to be less bawdy you can use "Bobster".

I also thought of "Heironimo" (think Geronimo), but it's just too stupid. Okay now "Heironopotamus". It sucks too...

How about we just use 'lame'?

Sorry, I left my sense of humor at work yesterday.

RayG

 

[Correa Neto]

From K.'s link...

Human males have a single penile bone; whereas Bigfoot has a triple-jointed bone that can make a "U" turn,

Makes sense... The critter has a mid-tarsal-break, after all...

This thread is becoming very... Informative...

 

[Melissa]

IMO...you're done responding to Kit's posts mostly because he's been tearing you a new one for at least the last several pages....meanwhile you keep saying things like...."I heard Meldrum say it differently"..."those are his words not mine"..."Waaaaaahh...William pulled my hair"

In sum...you have nothing.

I choose whom I speak to, and I choose when. Anyone can type out a post that is insulting and rude - I do not find intelligent conversation or discussion in anything Kitakazee has had to say recently - mis-quoting someone, and recanting later only after its brought up that they are infact wrong with their source, is very laughable and far below that of anyone I would call credible or honest. I am done responding to the childish antics of people. Either discuss the issues like an adult, or I will simply stop discussing the issue completely. It really is that simple. How old are you anyway? 12? Stop being rude an insulting to me, and I will return the favor.

Ah, no I ment exactly what I said, if your confused - ask one of your friends here who can understand english to help you out. When either you or Kitakazee come up with something to say that does not completely drip with contempt I will start to respond again. There are more than just you and kitakazee who deserve to take a swipe at me too.

The world does not revolve around you and your opinion - and I am so grateful for that. There is no rule on this message board that I must respond to those I feel are insulting and childish. Maybe you should ask the owners of the board to change things here to the way you like it.

Why you choose to keep pestering me when I have moved on, is very strange to say the least. I would suggest you move on, and really get over it.

Thats my good deed for the day.

 

[kitakaze]

Sorry, I left my sense of humor at work yesterday.

RayG

I agree fully, Ray, that labels don't advance the argument. That said, while I'm not quite interested in all things Randi, I did rather like Randi brats.

Bigfootery is a big, silly, hilarious mess. It doesn't quite rise to the integrity of a deep love of Dn'D. It needs a certain type of antagonism. It needs to be poked for the ludicrousness that it puts forth. The people that perpetuate it's silliness need to be taken to task for their data mining and fantasy play. If they continue to represent it as something more than fantasy, they should be expected to try and come to terms with all aspects of its silliness. They can call me a scoftic all they like. What they can't do is qualify that in any meaningful way that doesn't make their role-playing charades transparent. They can sit around and speculate if bigfoots keep pets and why they hate us or they can start to take a hard look at the whole thing. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Bigfootery is a joke that its perpetuators just don't get.

 

[kitakaze]

I do not find intelligent conversation or discussion in anything Kitakazee has had to say recently - mis-quoting someone, and recanting later only after its brought up that they are infact wrong with their source, is very laughable and far below that of anyone I would call credible or honest.

Fair enough. Where did I misquote Meldrum? Are you arguing that he doesn't support Green's position on the lack of female sasquatch reports? Where was I dishonest?

 

[LTC8K6]

Melissa, why do you think Meldrum quoted Green about female bigfoot?
Did Meldrum disagree with Green, or offer a different explanation?

 

[LTC8K6]

I choose whom I speak to, and I choose when.

Yes, evidently you chose to come to a skeptic board and speak to skeptics about bigfoot. Evidently, you are surprised to run into actual skeptics here.

 

[Mad Hom]

I guess if proponents were trying to get us to buy into the idea of an extremely rare creature living in a couple of highly remote locations of the PNW then they'd be having less of a PR problem but that's not what's being presented. With the rise of the internet and the wide range of people who want to join the bigfootery role-playing game with sufficient tree cover in there locales we have the current joke they don't get being perpetuated.

Before living in Japan I lived in Victoria, BC on Vancouver Island which as I've discussed elsewhere is one of the classic sasquatch stomping grounds. To my surprise, according to this 2006-2007 BFRO class A report, I don't even need to look further than my own hometown to find sasquatch! They're living right there at the outskirts of the city! Thanks guys! Wow, don't I feel stupid.

That's the great thing about bigfoot, you see. We can't sit and nod our heads while listening to proponents carrying on about remote, vast, inaccessible this and that but not to worry, we're in luck. Bigfoot comes quite literally to our front door.

What's that, friend? Live in Des Moines, Iowa? Don't be so glum, we've got bigfoot for you! Here's a class A 2000 report featuring a sasquatch leaping into the air on a bike trail within the city limits of Des Moines. Sign up to the bigfoot website of your choice, grab your hat and bus ticket, snap some pictures of some mysterious sign, post 'em quick and SNAP! You're squatchin', buddy.

I don't have to worry about the lack of reports with females or infants. If I just find the right spot in my hometown I can get a friend to set up a webcam in the back yard and it'll just be a matter of time before one of them little rugrats comes ripping out of the forest with big mama chasing behind. Just you wait.

ETA: Well, there you have it. Correa has beaten me to it. He even posted a link to the Mangani map that I felt too lazy to do. I'll be retiring my oven mitts now.

Bigfootery RPG.....Absolutely spot on Kit...I believe I moaned and groaned about this many many pages ago. It would seem that every area with a few acres of tall trees wants in on the game...it's sad really.

Indiana? Iowa? Ohio? Oklahoma? Kansas?...c'mon now Bigfoot Fan we're not really supposed to buy the Bigfeetsus phenomenon if you insist on including the midwest and the square states of the central US are we?

If you want back whatever shred of credibility you once had you'll need to distance yourself from the RIBFRO (Rhode Island Bigfeetsus Research Organization) post haste.

If this were only happening in the PNW...I might be a tad more open to it's remote possibility...but alas it isn't...Hairy Bipeds of Unusual size are running rampant across the whole of the US.....they're in the purple mountains majesty....the amber waves of grain...they're freeking everywhere...yet at the same time...they're nowhere at all.

and oh Bigfoot Fan....by the way......yes as a matter of fact that is killing your cause!!

 

[Mad Hom]

I agree fully, Ray, that labels don't advance the argument. That said, while I'm not quite interested in all things Randi, I did rather like Randi brats.

Bigfootery is a big, silly, hilarious mess. It doesn't quite rise to the integrity of a deep love of Dn'D. It needs a certain type of antagonism. It needs to be poked for the ludicrousness that it puts forth. The people that perpetuate it's silliness need to be taken to task for their data mining and fantasy play. If they continue to represent it as something more than fantasy, they should be expected to try and come to terms with all aspects of its silliness. They can call me a scoftic all they like. What they can't do is qualify that in any meaningful way that doesn't make their role-playing charades transparent. They can sit around and speculate if bigfoots keep pets and why they hate us or they can start to take a hard look at the whole thing. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Bigfootery is a joke that its perpetuators just don't get.

Well put Kit....describes my opinion on Bigfoot Nation to the T....and I'm so glad someone finally described Bigfoot Fan the way I see them...as people prone to flights of fancy who really really like the idea of Hairy Bipeds of Unusual Size roaming the fruited plain..and who don't let an incredible lack of hard evidence and ridiculous inconsistencies stand in the way of their little pet Bleef.

 

[kitakaze]

Thanks Madness. William Parcher deserves credit for the bigfoot = RPG for adults analogy. I say analogy but I'm not even sure that's necessary. The bigfoot game is just too irresisistable. Bigfoot is reported in more places than cougars are. Kansas? Oh, there's no place like home, baby.

Go ahead, Credibilty Quest footer, and try and distance yourself from the RIBFRO or KBFRO dudes or whatever but you've been warned. Zeke is gonna pull his walkie talkies from the next New York expedition and he's gonna be at the same table as you at Honobia this year. You'll get to hear firsthand what everybody at his new RIBRC forum thinks of your slap to bigfoot research.

 

[Mad Hom]

Thanks Madness. William Parcher deserves credit for the bigfoot = RPG for adults analogy. I say analogy but I'm not even sure that's necessary. The bigfoot game is just too irresisistable. Bigfoot is reported in more places than cougars are. Kansas? Oh, there's no place like home, baby.

Go ahead, Credibilty Quest footer, and try and distance yourself from the RIBFRO or KBFRO dudes or whatever but you've been warned. Zeke is gonna pull his walkie talkies from the next New York expedition and he's gonna be at the same table as you at Honobia this year. You'll get to hear firsthand what everybody at his new RIBRC forum thinks of your slap to bigfoot research.

The whole Bigfeeetsus phenomenon really jumps the shark when the Delaware,Nebraska and Iowa contingents start talking about tree knocking ,banshee screams in the night and Class A sightings....how on earth do credible (and I use that term verrrrrrrrry loosely) Bigfeetsus researchers allow these tools to continue to muddy the waters. If Hairy Bipeds are as widespread across the fruited plain as these people claim than why in the world do we not have anything better than the Con Man's Flick, The Skookum Arse print or Marx Foot...errr...Cripple Foot.

These things are everywhere...in every state...hell every country damn near has a Hairy Biped of Unusual Heighth why hasn't one been shot yet...be it by gun,camera,crossbow,blow dart...whatever..

Kit mentioned cougars...very rare animal in certain states sayyyyyyy...Florida for example...where's the FCRO (Florida Cougar Research Organization) or the Red Wolf or the Vancouver Island Marmot or whatever...there probably is barely a handful of John and Jane Q Publics out researching these rare and endangered animals even in places where they were proven to exist...but Bigfeetsus a creature who's proven existence is at best tenuous has an amateur FRO in every single swinging state of the union....good grief...I guess Cougars and Marmots just aren't spooky and mysterious enough huh?

Bigfoot Fan....Hairy Bipeds of Unusual Size are living in every single stand of tall trees in every state...get out there Bigfoot Fan and bring this thing to a close already....of course figuring this thing out one way or the other ends the mystery and methinks the mystery is all most of them are in it for in the first place.