Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

[LTC8K6]

Patty's left arm & right thigh are nowhere near parallel in 352, and Patty's lower legs and feet are not visible. The flex of the foot in the statue is cool though, even if invented.

Looking at it again, Patty appears to be taking a pretty short stride in 352 as well.

 

[LAL]

Is this one of the casts he purchased ?

It's the wallpaper on his web site ...


Oh, I forgot for a moment.. .. That is the cast, that was a model for one of Wallace's feet;
right down to the crack in the heel ..


What is the the theory behind how a Sas got a scar like that ? Stepped on a machete that someone carelessly left laying around ?

It is not his website and we've been over this several times before. Wallace's inspiration was evidently one of Titmus' casts, copies of which had been for sale in the area. Rant Mullens claimed he did the carving, but his fake feet are even worse.

You might want to compare the one you posted to a photo of a Wallace foot. Again.

 

[LAL]

Have I? Exactly where?

Back when I suggested you write to Meldrum. It will take a while to find the post. I'm not sure I remember the name of the thread. I think it was the one where you posted your physics argument.

I haven't seen you taking advantage of the opportunity to address Meldrum on BFF. He's still posting.

If it's too much trouble to join the board, perhaps Diogenes could post your argument for you.

Here's the link again, in case you missed it:

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=14342&st=0

 

[Skeptical Greg]

http://www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/article.php?id=33

Lots of interesting stuff in there that I never knew, such as the discrepancy in the track direction and the fact that no other 14.5" tracks were found at the site. Some stuff that doesn't matter too, but a lot of good stuff.

I don't know how much of the good stuff is true, though.

I figured there was only one 14.5 print, since that is the only one we see..

Even in the pic of the trackway.. The good print has the plaster in it..

The other prints look wierd and very different.. Strange that one print looks so perfect, and so different from the Laverty print..

The foot in frame 72 doesn't look look like Laverty's Tarsalfoot either..

I need to run this by at BFF.. I haven't heard the spin on it..

Is there a Laverty print with a ruler next to it ?

 

[LTC8K6]

It doesn't seem to matter how bad the fake feet are though.

There are a few particularly bad fakes on Meldrum's page, a picture of John Green examining a particularly bad straight line of particularly bad prints, bear prints, etc., etc.

 

[Huntster]

...But maybe some will think about what I've demonstrated with this experiment.....

Yeah, I've thought about what you've demonstrated.

So, what's next?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

It is not his website and we've been over this several times before. Wallace's inspiration was evidently one of Titmus' casts, copies of which had been for sale in the area. Rant Mullens claimed he did the carving, but his fake feet are even worse.

You might want to compare the one you posted to a photo of a Wallace foot. Again.

The wallace foot you posted is not the one with the crack in it..


Why don't all Bigfoot tracks have double ball ? Why not Patty ?

Those tracks ( wallace feet ) don't look like someone walking.. They look like they were stamped ... It is a freaking joke, and a shame ...

 

[LTC8K6]

Now, will footers apply the same standard to others who have attempted to fool them about bigfoot?

We seem to have an uproar about a little hoaxing done by dfoot.

So what about Freeman and Marx? They have done magnitudes worse than dfoot.

 

[LTC8K6]

Laverty was suspicious of Patterson since he'd been all over bluff creek and never seen a thing.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Dfoot,

You did a lot of great work...

You could really pull off a good hoax if you hadn't revealed yourself..

You will be the suspect behind anything good that shows up anytime soon..


As I said before, I hope you enjoyed yourself, and that you keep experimenting, but it was all wasted on the Cult Of Patty .....

I was going to predict that thread would be locked, but I decided not to bother.. Now we will see if they wipe any of it..

It is still fun to kick this stuff around, point out the flaws in the suit, and the thinking of the people who think it would have to be the product of some hi-tech FX lab...

I hope you will stick around..

 

[RayG]

It's the wallpaper on his web site ...

It is not his website...

Sources/links?

RayG

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Now, will footers apply the same standard to others who have attempted to fool them about bigfoot?

We seem to have an uproar about a little hoaxing done by dfoot.

So what about Freeman and Marx? They have done magnitudes worse than dfoot.

They might see it as a hoax, but I see it as a valid experiment.. He made it too easy for them, and showed his hand too soon.

You make people mad when you make fools out of them.. That's the inevitable mistake he made..

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, it's ISU's site and Meldrum's page.

Lu is just being Lu.

 

[Huntster]

Now, will footers apply the same standard to others who have attempted to fool them about bigfoot?.....

Yup.

...We seem to have an uproar about a little hoaxing done by dfoot....

It pales to the uproar over an alleged hoax by Patterson.

Another difference:

Dfoot is now a proven hoaxer. Patterson is not.

Another difference:

Dfoot's hoax was attempted with 2006 technology. Patterson's was not.

Another difference:

Dfoot is a Hollywood insider (at least he claims to be). Patterson was not.

...So what about Freeman and Marx? They have done magnitudes worse than dfoot....

Yup. And they are hoaxers, right alongside dfoot, robo, and a number of others.

Prove that Patterson was among them. Hell, let's see you even give me some credible evidence that he hoaxed his film (hoaxed evidence doesn't work).

 

[LTC8K6]

You make people mad when you make fools out of them

So what about Freeman and Marx? No one seems to be mad at them.

 

[Huntster]

Laverty was suspicious of Patterson since he'd been all over bluff creek and never seen a thing.

Evidence, please?

 

[Huntster]

Dfoot,

You did a lot of great work.....

And then he blew it, adn got caught.

...You could really pull off a good hoax if you hadn't revealed yourself...

He got busted.

...You will be the suspect behind anything good that shows up anytime soon...

Thems are called "consequences".

And let's see "anything good that shows up".

...As I said before, I hope you enjoyed yourself, and that you keep experimenting, but it was all wasted on the Cult Of Patty .....

It was wasted because he blew it.

...I was going to predict that thread would be locked, but I decided not to bother.. Now we will see if they wipe any of it..

I sure hope they don't. That needs to stand for future reference. Just like the Robo thread.

 

[LTC8K6]

If I had meant to include Patterson as a known hoaxer, I sure would have Huntster.

Besides, there remains the possibility that someone hoaxed Patterson that day.

This deal about Byrne saying Patty stood still in the film is really beginning to bother me.

 

[Huntster]

.....You make people mad when you make fools out of them.. That's the inevitable mistake he made..

He made a fool of himself.

You're doing the same thing trying to defend his valiant effort.

 

[LTC8K6]

14. Lyle Laverty; timber sales management; was in the area at the time with a team of five people through most of October; and never saw tracks or anything. Along comes Roger; and all of a sudden he films Bigfoot. Lyle took photos of the tracks also. But he thinks it strange that Roger should be so "lucky."

From the IBS link I posted earlier with lots of interesting stuff in it.