bigfoot is real I have the proof

Shut up! You're giving away all our secrets!

Ah, notice I only said new paragraph. I did not explian how to get a used or a currently being used paragraph.

This is what is know as wetting the appetite. :)
 
I recall some months ago there was a generall call at some bigfoot forum (BFF? TSFBF?) about someone trying to sell some bigfoot pics. Exposed as a scammer, IIRC...

Aniway, this is one of the worse places where someone might want to try this sort of scam. Gotta be too naïve, overconfident or dumb...

Not to mention that, since the burden of proof lies on the claimant, footers are the ones who should pay the bill. What about Meldrum? Or Cryptomundo's owners?
 
Yeah :) With those weird troll fingers that can find most of the keys on the keyboard except the enter key to make a few paragraph brakes... :rolleyes:

Isn't it funny how most trolls have some sort of weird quirk in how they write. See how this one makes a space between the end of each sentence and the dot? Like this . :) It's sort of the finger print of an Internet troll, I think.

Plus never being able to use any of the forum features.

Yet, they say they have been doing this for XX years.

I always view it at a crude attempt to appear new when the real intent is to spread the word.
 
I always view it at a crude attempt to appear new when the real intent is to spread the word.

Exactly. He claims that he is new to keyboards, which "excuses" his atrocious writing style, yet as my corrections show, it is painfully obvious that it is NOT keyboard problems when you misspell the same word(s) over and over again.

I call scam.
 
Thanks dude I need all the help I can get ! Would you like a job as an asistant bigfoot researcher I could use a good speller ! Being in the field is my thing talking to the public is not my strong point . Ive got one question though when do you start a new paragraph ? This could be why I never got good grades in english ! I can get my point across in person much better .

Hey how about that I guess I am not to old learn after all . maybe some of you should take notice of that and learn a little more about the subject before you scoff and ridicule something you know nothing about . That is a sure sign of ignorence and inexperience . You scoff becouse that is all you know to do becouse your ego is so large you cant admite you are worng about something this is very common on internet forums . I havent been here long but I see it is very rampant here . I guess its the truth about what they say about different types of people birds of a feather flock together . The sceptics are a close net crowd Ive got hand it to you for that . I will say one thing to you and then move on if allowed with research questions only . Like Ive said I dont have time for nagative thinking I am all about positive actions to solve the questions . I am not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes this is real research I am doing not some side show . If you have any questions Ill be happy to answer them but only about bigfoot research . I am not an expert but I think my record shows I am not a novice in this field . Thank you for taking the time to read what I have said . I will say this again this really happened to me . Someday I hope it happens to you becouse it really is a life changing experience to know the truth .
 
Every thing I have said is true you say I am a lier becouse that is an easy way out for someone that knows nothing about this research . I am willing to put my proof out for the public to see but I want something in return . Thats the american way brother you want the proof you must pay for it . I have to much invested to just give anything away .

You're not going to get any money out of this group. At least I hope to hell no one gives you any money for this scam. Go to a paranormal site and peddle your papers. Stay away from us.

Liar.
 
Someday I hope it happens to you becouse it really is a life changing experience to know the truth .

Apparently we need to pay you money up front to know the truth as well. Carnival exhibits put on a more convincing show.

If it is real research, get a grant.
 
Are you going to provide your evidence free of charge or not?

If not, go away.
 
How were the hair samples obtained? If you trimmed his fur, that wouldn't work for DNA testing, since hair is just dead keratin. However, if you plucked it out, that might work.

That's not entirely true. There is mitochondrial DNA which could be used to narrow down the species it came from.

Scam artists like this often resemble the worst sorts of business opportunists. If I really had bigfoot hair, and I was seriously convinced of it, I'd invest first in DNA testing. This is the only artifact that would constitute solid proof these days - photos and footprints can be faked, hair specimens are often difficult to conclude on.

Yet waving about hair and a photo and demanding money smacks of the work of a scam artist. Maybe it's not, but if you don't want to be called a duck, don't waddle and quack like one.

Athon
 
Exactly. He claims that he is new to keyboards, which "excuses" his atrocious writing style, yet as my corrections show, it is painfully obvious that it is NOT keyboard problems when you misspell the same word(s) over and over again.

I call scam.

For reading all that you get the bronze dog.

When I see a iceberg thick block of text I know that whoever wrote it is incapable of organizing their thoughts so I ignore it
 
For reading all that you get the bronze dog.

When I see a iceberg thick block of text I know that whoever wrote it is incapable of organizing their thoughts so I ignore it

Hey I read it all. Well... most of it. Well..... more like 1/3rd of it. Okay, okay I read the first sentence and gave up.
 
I tell you what, Creeky - show the picture, and if we think it's really worth something, we'll pay you what it's worth. In fact, send me an email with the picture, and I swear by all I hold holy (the entire universe, no less), that unless I buy the pic from you, I'll delete it and all evidence that it ever existed from my computer, and I won't share it with anyone whatsoever.

Of course, you only have my word on it - but you're asking people to spend money on a photo that they only have your word on to even exist.

Trust works both ways, hombre.

I realize, of course, that you'll never do this - all you want is to get the money up-front so you can send them a pic of your buddy in a home-made costume. It's a very old, very tired scam - and this is absolutely the wrong place to try it, Creeky.
 
That's not entirely true. There is mitochondrial DNA which could be used to narrow down the species it came from.

/me stands corrected.

That's cool, I didn't know there was mDNA in hair shafts. Learn something every day!
 
Hey how about that I guess I am not to old learn after all . maybe some of you should take notice of that and learn a little more about the subject before you scoff and ridicule something you know nothing about . That is a sure sign of ignorence and inexperience .

Many people here know quite a bit about the topic they're discussing, including the bigfoot phenomenom. You seem to think being negative is the goal - it is actually the most effective way to sort the diamonds from the glass. Think - after all these years, still nobody has produced a single piece of evidence of bigfoot that couldn't be faked. With something as significant as declaring the possible existance of a new species of hominid, accepting a fuzzy photo or a footprint cast isn't sufficient.

Skeptics demand that evidence. We'd love there to be a new field of science, or an amazing discovery such as a living bigfoot. I'd be overjoyed that we live in such an era. But if I'd accept just anybody's word on it, I'd be living in a delusional reality, not the actual thing.

You scoff becouse that is all you know to do becouse your ego is so large you cant admite you are worng about something this is very common on internet forums .

We've learned that people lie. People misrepresent. People are deluded. Is everybody like this? Does it automatically mean you're like this? No. One might be genuine. It's possible you have the ultimate evidence. But when you show all the hallmarks of the rest, there's no reason to believe you over another.

I havent been here long but I see it is very rampant here . I guess its the truth about what they say about different types of people birds of a feather flock together . The sceptics are a close net crowd Ive got hand it to you for that . I will say one thing to you and then move on if allowed with research questions only . Like Ive said I dont have time for nagative thinking I am all about positive actions to solve the questions .

And here is your problem. 'Positive', to you, means those who agree with you. Anybody who dares to start from a position assuming that what you have is not bigfoot hair is negative and will be ignored. I guarentee you that's not how science works. We start from a position that says you need to show that what you have is something unique and is not a fake - it's not for us to assume you're genuine and we need to show that you're wrong.

I am not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes this is real research I am doing not some side show .

Then you're going about it no different to any other conman. How are we to tell that you're any different?

If you have any questions Ill be happy to answer them but only about bigfoot research . I am not an expert but I think my record shows I am not a novice in this field . Thank you for taking the time to read what I have said . I will say this again this really happened to me . Someday I hope it happens to you becouse it really is a life changing experience to know the truth .

Here's the only thing you can do - raise some money. Find several indepenent university testing laboratories. Send a sample to each and document all correspondance between you and them. Wait for the results to say it corresponds with no species they have genetic matches for.

That won't be irrefutable proof, by any shot. But it's a start and will gain you more credibility than you have now. Beyond that you're wasting your time here. Speculation is free, but science does cost some effort.

Athon
 
Is it just me or is Bigfoot trolling becoming a sport on the JREF forums?
 
I have shown the picture to some fellow researchers . Up untell now I was protecting the pilots . But now I realize they work for the state therefore they work for us they will have to answer for there actions sooner or later . Right now I need money for research to get better photos of them so there will never be any dout again . To do this I need camaras that I cant afford . Research costs a lot of money there are no grants for this as of yet . It is all privately funded by people like me willing to put the time and effort into this . I work very hard 5 days a week to gather evidence it is no small task . Starting next week I will be in the swamp for 5 days week with the boat . I am not into fame Ive had it before and dont care for it I am not aganst being payed for my efforts though .

What does, "Up untell now I was protecting the pilots" mean?
 
If you have any questions Ill be happy to answer them but only about bigfoot research . I am not an expert but I think my record shows I am not a novice in this field .

In a previous message you mentioned having a boat and being in a swamp. Where do you do your research? Florida or Georgia?
 
This is no hoax and I challange anyone to disprove this photo but before that happens its going to cost someone big bucks . No money no bigfoot . I need equipment for my research so this is why I am puting it up for sale . I have the proof now how bad do you want it ?

Ok, I have to admit I didn't read the entire OP....

First, I think you and Historian should have a discussion on the whole "is bigfoot invisiable" or not; you both seem to have very differing views on that topic, both with some level of proof to support your claim.

Assuming you are serious here, and not a troll, there are lots of ways to raise money to continue your research. I dare say there are bigfoot groups that would support this...heck, even a website asking for donations.

If, however, your idea is to raise money here with a challange such as "I have the proof now how bad do you want it", I'd suggest you are in the wrong place.
 

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