It's also roughly (1000) 4' x 10' graves!
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It's also roughly (1000) 4' x 10' graves!
AlaskaBushPilot
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Ouachita hunting regs.
Here are the Ouachita federal hunting regs:
http://campingarkansas.net/boards/index.php?topic=495.0;wap2
If they're hunting they have to wear an orange cap and 144 sq inches of hunter orange on front and back of the body.
The state regulates methods, means, and season lengths. There is a two day free hunt for residents in Sept 1,2 and then an extended period for anyone bringing in a gun starting in October. So that's why the cabin is rented to bigfoot "hunters" in the summer. Because when the real hunters come, the fake hunters leave.
So no need to worry about exact directions. These bigfoot hunters are going to be wearing blaze orange caps and vests, right? Because they follow all hunting laws to the letter.
Here are the Ouachita federal hunting regs:
http://campingarkansas.net/boards/index.php?topic=495.0;wap2
If they're hunting they have to wear an orange cap and 144 sq inches of hunter orange on front and back of the body.
The state regulates methods, means, and season lengths. There is a two day free hunt for residents in Sept 1,2 and then an extended period for anyone bringing in a gun starting in October. So that's why the cabin is rented to bigfoot "hunters" in the summer. Because when the real hunters come, the fake hunters leave.
So no need to worry about exact directions. These bigfoot hunters are going to be wearing blaze orange caps and vests, right? Because they follow all hunting laws to the letter.
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So when the cameras are on the hill, they show up by the cabin, when the cameras are by the cabin, they show up on the hill. This is highly indicative of insider Hoaxing activity. There is only one beast more averse to being caught on camera than a Bigfoot, and that is a human. See Pywacket incident for the tragic events that unfolded in that case.
I would also guess that you have had cameras turn up missing or destroyed, which was attributed to Bigfoot as well.
I would also guess that you have had cameras turn up missing or destroyed, which was attributed to Bigfoot as well.
Do you think it's easy to catch a bulletproof cam-resistant ninja ape? It's the hairy graal quest and it's gonna last a long long time.
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It seems to have challenges.. but apparently "if you build it they will come".
Tom
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Yes.. and that is what I would consider the BF Peeps more of a cult than a hoaxer.
It used to be like Mr. P. mentioned.. the random sighting. Now we have these peeps who take the word of others... defend them and have their own private compounds to defend with some sort of threat. Firearms, No Trespassing, Private land. Yet.. if it so private and guarded.. Why throw it out there for more exposure in the "research" ? Other to get more followers and money to fund these things.
I was alarmed a bit about that btw.. I found that so different.
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I'm paraphrasing Brian Brown's (bipto) pod cast concerning his adventure in Area X last second week in May.
TBRC had a three month operation because they wanted to be like other primate field researchers, spending more time in the bush.
B. arrived on Sunday and was a member of a 5 member team, including Bob and Kathy Strain.
Monday: around 6:30 PM. Sound of rocks hitting cabin roofs were investigated. There is a 150-200 yard distance between cabins and one can not see one cabin while at another. All members went to investigate sound, except K., who stayed at camp alone. She sees in bush near "mountain" what appears to be a branch snapping back as if someone had been watching from inside the bush. She informs the team and they look around the bush area and conclude that if anything was there it left up the hill/mountain.
Now they hear sounds again, this time from south cabin. Three go, leaving Bob and Kathy at camp. Kathy asks her husband to look in the bush because she still feels something is in there. Bob looks in and sees nothing but dead tree logs.
7:45PM. After the others could not find the source of noise at the south cabin, they return to camp. They have conversation. Then they hear sounds like footsteps in the bush area. Suddenly Kathy jumps up and says "Look! There they go!" Each member has a different vantage point. Brian sees something moving up the hillside, maybe 40 to 50 yards away. He describes a "black ball" like thing, first he thought it small but later when he measured a boulder on the hillside near where the thing was, he concluded that it was enormous. It moved with such speed Brian says he almost could not believe its speed. It was also very graceful, not like a bear at all.
Kathy had the best vantage point and saw two animals, one larger than the other. She described animals moving bipedally; she could see the legs pumping, They were moving bent at the waist with arms tucked in and not swinging. Feet were splayed like a duck's. She remarked that they moved up the hill/mountain so rapidly and smoothly that they looked as if propelled by a bungee cord.
Another member said he could make out the legs "scissoring." One member was in a bad position and did not see anything. Brian says if he had been alone and saw what he saw, he would not have necessarily thought he had seen a Wood Ape; he would not have known what to think, other than it was a weird event. They have video taken immediately after the sighting and it records their first thoughts, including that what they saw was black.
Brain said his sighting event lasted no longer than 3 to 5 seconds. The members go to investigate and one member sees a fully upright bipedal animal moving from right to left through a clearing in the trees up the hill/mountain.
Tuesday. Bob relates how he looked into the bush and saw nothing other than some dead logs. He re-inacts and now sees only one dead log. They conclude that he must have actually seen the two Wood Apes who must have blended in, still and quiet; the other two logs he thought he saw were the apes! They were there all along and left later to run up the hill/mountain and were then seen.
7:00PM. The team goes to the slope where the "apes" were seen to do comparisons, like Bobo does on TV. For a reason unknown to Brian, he turns his flashlight on and aims up the hill at a bush. He sees eyeshine. He hollers out to the others and sees the eyeshine appear to move from looking at the others to looking at him. He says the face seemed flat, eyes maybe 6 inches apart, and reflecting very round, very bright red-orange eyes (especially striking because it was not dark outside yet.) The eyeshine looked back and forth and then the face went down as if to hide. Brian perceives this as the reflecting eyes of a Wood Ape.
He believes the ape is still in the bush and the team moves towards it. They hear a sound that is not a growl, but a deep and not happy sound. The team then hears sounds of movement coming from other areas nearby and they decide it best to move out of the immediate area. Next day Brian goes to the spot where he thinks the eyeshine may have come from and found a spot on a ledge where it appeared something human sized had lain in a sniper-like position, with elbow and toe indentations discernible. He took pictures of this.
Wednesday. They move a dozen trail cameras from around the cabins and deploy them around the area up the hill/mountain, leaving only one cam in the cabin area. Later, the noises of movement comes from around the cabin area and not from up the hill/mountain, like previously. Brian uses night vision and sees a big dark thing half in and half out of a wooded area. Outline shape--broad shoulder and head. It appeared to gently sway. They shined flashlights toward the night visioned area and saw nothing. Brian says they will bring more powerful flashlights next time.
They did not go to investigate. Speaking for himself, Brian says he is getting freaked out by everything that has been happening. Noise and movement is being heard all around. Brian looks again with night vision and the object is gone. They conclude that the pattern is for the apes to distract the humans whenever they get too close to one of their own by making noise and throwing rocks. Brian turns his truck lights on and then hears something close moving away.
Brian goes to relieve himself afterwards and something is moving nearby. In the cabin late at night, he cannot sleep. Others have fallen asleep. He is next to a small window and remembers the scene in "Boggy Creek" when the Monster reaches through the window.
He hears sounds of nuts hitting not the roof but the side of the cabin. He then hears three distinct footfalls outside, something walking on two legs, and then hears a metallic sound, which he later believes in made by something tapping on a frying pan that is hanging out on the porch. As he is debating whether or not to awaken the others, the entire end of the cabin shifted. This is the final straw. As the others have been awaken by the cabin shifting, Brian says "I'm done!"
Next day they recreate the shifting cabin noise by one member climbing up from the porch to the side of the cabin. Brian thinks the intruder, an ape, was trying to look in a window and had make noises with the nuts against the side of the cabin to find out if anyone was awake inside.
Brian has had enough and leaves much earlier than planned.
I would appreciate Brian's corrections if he thinks I've misrepresented his comments.
TBRC had a three month operation because they wanted to be like other primate field researchers, spending more time in the bush.
B. arrived on Sunday and was a member of a 5 member team, including Bob and Kathy Strain.
Monday: around 6:30 PM. Sound of rocks hitting cabin roofs were investigated. There is a 150-200 yard distance between cabins and one can not see one cabin while at another. All members went to investigate sound, except K., who stayed at camp alone. She sees in bush near "mountain" what appears to be a branch snapping back as if someone had been watching from inside the bush. She informs the team and they look around the bush area and conclude that if anything was there it left up the hill/mountain.
Now they hear sounds again, this time from south cabin. Three go, leaving Bob and Kathy at camp. Kathy asks her husband to look in the bush because she still feels something is in there. Bob looks in and sees nothing but dead tree logs.
7:45PM. After the others could not find the source of noise at the south cabin, they return to camp. They have conversation. Then they hear sounds like footsteps in the bush area. Suddenly Kathy jumps up and says "Look! There they go!" Each member has a different vantage point. Brian sees something moving up the hillside, maybe 40 to 50 yards away. He describes a "black ball" like thing, first he thought it small but later when he measured a boulder on the hillside near where the thing was, he concluded that it was enormous. It moved with such speed Brian says he almost could not believe its speed. It was also very graceful, not like a bear at all.
Kathy had the best vantage point and saw two animals, one larger than the other. She described animals moving bipedally; she could see the legs pumping, They were moving bent at the waist with arms tucked in and not swinging. Feet were splayed like a duck's. She remarked that they moved up the hill/mountain so rapidly and smoothly that they looked as if propelled by a bungee cord.
Another member said he could make out the legs "scissoring." One member was in a bad position and did not see anything. Brian says if he had been alone and saw what he saw, he would not have necessarily thought he had seen a Wood Ape; he would not have known what to think, other than it was a weird event. They have video taken immediately after the sighting and it records their first thoughts, including that what they saw was black.
Brain said his sighting event lasted no longer than 3 to 5 seconds. The members go to investigate and one member sees a fully upright bipedal animal moving from right to left through a clearing in the trees up the hill/mountain.
Tuesday. Bob relates how he looked into the bush and saw nothing other than some dead logs. He re-inacts and now sees only one dead log. They conclude that he must have actually seen the two Wood Apes who must have blended in, still and quiet; the other two logs he thought he saw were the apes! They were there all along and left later to run up the hill/mountain and were then seen.
7:00PM. The team goes to the slope where the "apes" were seen to do comparisons, like Bobo does on TV. For a reason unknown to Brian, he turns his flashlight on and aims up the hill at a bush. He sees eyeshine. He hollers out to the others and sees the eyeshine appear to move from looking at the others to looking at him. He says the face seemed flat, eyes maybe 6 inches apart, and reflecting very round, very bright red-orange eyes (especially striking because it was not dark outside yet.) The eyeshine looked back and forth and then the face went down as if to hide. Brian perceives this as the reflecting eyes of a Wood Ape.
He believes the ape is still in the bush and the team moves towards it. They hear a sound that is not a growl, but a deep and not happy sound. The team then hears sounds of movement coming from other areas nearby and they decide it best to move out of the immediate area. Next day Brian goes to the spot where he thinks the eyeshine may have come from and found a spot on a ledge where it appeared something human sized had lain in a sniper-like position, with elbow and toe indentations discernible. He took pictures of this.
Wednesday. They move a dozen trail cameras from around the cabins and deploy them around the area up the hill/mountain, leaving only one cam in the cabin area. Later, the noises of movement comes from around the cabin area and not from up the hill/mountain, like previously. Brian uses night vision and sees a big dark thing half in and half out of a wooded area. Outline shape--broad shoulder and head. It appeared to gently sway. They shined flashlights toward the night visioned area and saw nothing. Brian says they will bring more powerful flashlights next time.
They did not go to investigate. Speaking for himself, Brian says he is getting freaked out by everything that has been happening. Noise and movement is being heard all around. Brian looks again with night vision and the object is gone. They conclude that the pattern is for the apes to distract the humans whenever they get too close to one of their own by making noise and throwing rocks. Brian turns his truck lights on and then hears something close moving away.
Brian goes to relieve himself afterwards and something is moving nearby. In the cabin late at night, he cannot sleep. Others have fallen asleep. He is next to a small window and remembers the scene in "Boggy Creek" when the Monster reaches through the window.
He hears sounds of nuts hitting not the roof but the side of the cabin. He then hears three distinct footfalls outside, something walking on two legs, and then hears a metallic sound, which he later believes in made by something tapping on a frying pan that is hanging out on the porch. As he is debating whether or not to awaken the others, the entire end of the cabin shifted. This is the final straw. As the others have been awaken by the cabin shifting, Brian says "I'm done!"
Next day they recreate the shifting cabin noise by one member climbing up from the porch to the side of the cabin. Brian thinks the intruder, an ape, was trying to look in a window and had make noises with the nuts against the side of the cabin to find out if anyone was awake inside.
Brian has had enough and leaves much earlier than planned.
I would appreciate Brian's corrections if he thinks I've misrepresented his comments.
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Sounds to me like the people who own the hunting cabin have figured out the perfect way to make money during the off season.....
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I would appreciate an explanation of why this nice friendly Bipto fellow showed up here out of the blue. Well.. with in a few days of someone who has been here since May mentioning this Kathy and also his name ? That is a bit odd .
I would also appreciate and wonder why since May or so I have been introduced to people that have seen BF and also the people they know that "have seen something "? I have seen many things.. they were not BF.
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I strongly suspect that isn't possible. For the obvious reason.
So they are bulletproof?
I'm shocked. I can't imagine why...
Then waste the hairy f*****s.
Not me. People showing up uninvited would be a bad idea. It's your show.
Quit dicking around. Give big stinky a lead enema.
Not true. Except the made up your mind bit. Yeah, done that. But, I'm open to new info and will change it. Not with touchy feely crap, though. Either you drag that bastard out by the heels, or, I want to see one in full fury, myself, then dropped like a sack of potatoes. Also, I don't fear the mighty yeti. He doesn't sound so tough. Rock throwing? Pfffffffft... What a wuss.
Again, not me. Invite only. It's your thing. How about having an observer, or even a participant. Someone who doesn't believe. Apparently, there's no ambiguity about all this. So, what would be the problem? I'm not talking about someone who would be hostile to you guys, or what you're doing. Just hostile to giant brazen monkeys.
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I would appreciate an explanation of why this nice friendly Bipto fellow showed up here out of the blue. Well.. with in a few days of someone who has been here since May mentioning this Kathy and also his name ? That is a bit odd . Also.. OS and his buddy.. I forget his name. All from the Bigfoot Machine.
I would also appreciate and wonder why since May or so I have been introduced to people that have seen BF and also the people they know that "have seen something "? I have seen many things.. they were not BF.
Just wondering.
LTC8K6
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Wow...that's a heck of a biped...
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I want to see an 800 pound duck's trackway.
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I have always enjoyed and liked Jo on this forum.. and her stories. She is a nice lady perhaps too believing in things but a very nice person. I just wondered if the people from the BFF have been following her ?
She does have a point about us tiring her out.
She does have a point about us tiring her out.
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Tom you are really way out of bounds here, in the first place, I did not bring this topic up, I really had no opinion about Operation Whatever other than when someone stated Kathy was a liar. I don't even remember who it was that said it now, but that was where it started for me. I do not know Bipto personally.
I have no clout, influence, or affiliation with any group that I am aware of. I do maintain friendships with the few that I listed in the other thread.
I have not introduced you to anyone that claims to have seen a bigfoot so you can't possibly be referring to me on that one.
Are there any other accusations or insinuations that you would like to make while I'm still considerate enough to answer?
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I wonder if any of the participants were wearing a watch and how squatches can tell the difference between them and cameras.
I also wonder how a squatch knows what a photograph is and why they are so adverse to them.
Given the lack of honest, forthright communication from these bozos - I think I'm going to be wondering about these things for quite a while.
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Here's an 800 pound penguin's trackway.
http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/florida-“giant-penguin”-hoax-revealed/
(credit to Tube)
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