Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Look here. Note that this is from several days ago, and only a couple of days after you were playing dumb about the Lindsey Graham video I rubbed under your noses.

It's cute that you think you're rubbing things under people's noses.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

LOL, ironic quote from that article: "Can you see what is really going on here?" Yup.

I like this one: "Someone is lying."

 

[quadraginta]

I've just seen something that's worth pointing out - Grassley is the person who has said that Feinstein releasing the transcript will make it harder to get testimony in the future. It was Grassley who recommended to the DOJ that they prosecute Steele. What does he imagine that would have done to potential future witnesses?

It's also worth pointing out that it was Grassley who didn't want the transcripts released even though the witness in question wanted them to be.

 

[Childlike Empress]

I like this one: "Someone is lying."

And here you were taking for granted that THEY think Steele is the one lying (he was paid for a job and has no reason to lie outside of the delivered product).

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Another analysis of what is in the testimony transcript released today

This one's shorter than Abramson's, at about a quarter of the length. There's a few bits and pieces in there I've not seen commented on elsewhere. I'll quote the conclusions, too:

Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson were thrust into the crucible of history with no obligation to act - and many reasons not to - but, bound by their own values, they placed themselves in harms way.

One of their sources has already been killed. They risked their lives.

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Yet, Glenn Simpson sat in a chamber in one of our most revered institutions testifying candidly and openly to a systemic attack on the very foundation of our country - our free and fair elections - and Republicans didn't ask him one question about that.

NOT ONE.

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Instead, the witness to a crime aimed squarely at our country and government laid out how he was accidentally thrust into the role of patriot...

...only to have Republicans attack the witness for having reported the crime.

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I'd be very interested in reading a similar analysis from someone on the opposite side of this - from someone who believes that Steele deserves to be prosecuted, and that the Dossier is nothing but lies.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

And here you were taking for granted that THEY think Steele is the one lying (he was paid for a job and has no reason to lie outside of the delivered product).

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - you'd be far more successful at this if you'd stop telling other people what you think they think. You keep telling me what you think I think, and you're invariably wrong. It's not a good habit to have if you want anybody to take you seriously, and it's especially not a good habit to have if you want to be the kind of person who can claim, as you have, to never be wrong.

 

[Childlike Empress]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - you'd be far more successful at this if you'd stop telling other people what you think they think. You keep telling me what you think I think, and you're invariably wrong. It's not a good habit to have if you want anybody to take you seriously, and it's especially not a good habit to have if you want to be the kind of person who can claim, as you have, to never be wrong.

It's actually in the posts you did about the Steele action by G&G. I don't have to guess. As I said before: you are hiding a lot of things - from yourself.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Also, your claim that I claimed to never be wrong shows again how far in the edge you know but not admit to yourself you are about this stuff. Silly.

What I said only half-jokingly is that I'm almost tired of being right, and there's a good track record for that.

 

[Childlike Empress]

I'd be very interested in reading a similar analysis from someone on the opposite side of this - from someone who believes that Steele deserves to be prosecuted, and that the Dossier is nothing but lies.

Just read this.

QED

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

It's actually in the posts you did about the Steele action by G&G. I don't have to guess. As I said before: you are hiding a lot of things - from yourself.

Also, your claim that I claimed to never be wrong shows again how far in the edge you know but not admit to yourself you are about this stuff. Silly.

What I said only half-jokingly is that I'm almost tired of being right, and there's a good track record for that.

Just read this.

QED

Yes, dear.

 

[Childlike Empress]

NBC:

[...] Two sources familiar with the questions Mueller’s team have been asking about the meeting say the investigators are most interested in why the president crafted a misleading statement about the meeting much later, in July 2017, after a New York Times report about it. The sources say Mueller’s office is trying to confirm every detail it can about the meeting.

Mueller’s team is less interested in the meeting as a direct example of collusion, the sources said, although Trump Jr. accepted the meeting after being told he would receive incriminating information about Hillary Clinton as part of the Russian government effort to help his father.

No evidence has emerged publicly to contradict Veselnitskaya’s account that she wanted to press a case about U.S. Magnitsky Act sanctions, and that she did not possess significant derogatory information about Clinton, despite the email from a music promoter to Trump Jr. promising incriminating details about the Democrat.

Moreover, no evidence has emerged publicly that connects the Russians in the meeting with the Russian intelligence effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. [...]

Mmmh, nothingburgers, one less. Is Saint Mueller trying to get Trump with "lying to the FBI" as well, given that they are among the readers of his tweets?

 

[BobTheCoward]

NBC:




Mmmh, nothingburgers, one less. Is Saint Mueller trying to get Trump with "lying to the FBI" as well, given that they are among the readers of his tweets?

Of course there isn't evidence about collusion at that meeting. There wouldn't be if there was. Obviously, one shouldn't think there is collusion without evidence. However, lack of evidence from this meeting is not notable. To quote stringer bell, "are you taking notes at a criminal conspiracy?"

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Is the question here whether Mueller is trying to establish culpability in every crime he can? Then, yes. That's his job.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I missed this when it came to light a couple of days ago: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/949695865043804160

Trump, without citing any evidence: "There has been no collusion between us and the Russians. Now, there has been collusion between Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the Russians. Unfortunately, you people don't cover that very much." (via CBS)

So he does believe that there was Russian interference in the US elections. That leaves unanswered the question of what is he doing about it to ensure that it doesn't happen again? He's certainly not outlined a strategy of any kind, or addressed it publicly in any way beyond just ranting about "Crooked Hillary".

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Bannon has lawyered up, as it seems the investigation will seek to interview him soon.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Feinstein apologized to Grassley for not informing him before the release, saying she was "pressured". Then her office said she misspoke and wasn't pressured. Then she said she had a bad cold...

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Feinstein apologized to Grassley for not informing him before the release, saying she was "pressured". Then her office said she misspoke and wasn't pressured. Then she said she had a bad cold...

Do any of your totally-not-Russian-propaganda-is-American-news-alright-cowboy-powpow-yeehaa sites address the fairly damning revelations in the transcript, namely that the FBI's source was a mole in the Trump campaign itself and not the Steele dossier meaning that almost everything the GOP has said since August 2017 regarding the investigation has been a baldfaced lie? Or is it just scuttlebutt about the means by which the GOP efforts to block the release's report were circumvented?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Do any of your totally-not-Russian-propaganda-is-American-news-alright-cowboy-powpow-yeehaa sites address the fairly damning revelations in the transcript, namely that the FBI's source was a mole in the Trump campaign itself and not the Steele dossier meaning that almost everything the GOP has said since August 2017 regarding the investigation has been a baldfaced lie? Or is it just scuttlebutt about the means by which the GOP efforts to block the release's report were circumvented?

This is their coverage of the Simpson testimony so far:

http://theduran.com/feinsteins-leak-fusion-gpss-glenn-simpsons-senate-testimony-backfires/
http://theduran.com/leaked-documents-show-that-fusion-gps-colluded-with-anti-trump-media/
http://theduran.com/fbi-did-not-hav...rce-was-a-drunk-papadopoulos-in-london-video/
http://theduran.com/anyone-murdered-trump-dossier-answer-almost-certainly-no/

Of course this is all several steps ahead of the "info" that formed what you've written.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Oh, and if you want to know the "cowboy" who publishes The Duran: I've posted an interview with him a bit upthread.

 

[plague311]

It's cute that you think you're rubbing things under people's noses.

Just wait, pretty soon it'll (he? she?) threaten to verbally demean you in front of everyone, but then decide not too because that's not it's style. This is a standard argument tactic from her/him.

It's a weird Danth's law type of deal. "I'm right, and I won, and if you don't believe me, then fear me, because I'm the smartest."

The sources are worse. I can't fathom how people believe that ********.