Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

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CapelDodger said:
We have evidence that efforts were made to conceal the transcript, and that efforts are still being made to distract from its content by shifting the conversation to the circumstances of its release. Which is intriguing in itself, isn't it?
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No.
 
BobTheCoward said:
So we can have a ton if assertions without evidence? I want data to back up it his claims.
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For that you'll have to wait until the investigation is finished. But it's worth noting that Simpson lying during his testimony would be a crime, and he was calling for the testimony to be released.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
For that you'll have to wait until the investigation is finished. But it's worth noting that Simpson lying during his testimony would be a crime, and he was calling for the testimony to be released.
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That isn't worth anything. The threat to truth isn't lying, but the fact humans are terrible recollectors of past events.
 
Darat said:
Remember you are in NTT (new Trump times), facts mean nothing any longer, the Republicans have already "won" on this point, people who would vote Republican will have heard its a fake dossier paid for by Clinton.
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To a certain audience. It's useful to remember that the whole country is not living in a post factual age.
 
Trump has responded: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951106475254059008

The fact that Sneaky Dianne Feinstein, who has on numerous occasions stated that collusion between Trump/Russia has not been found, would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly illegal way, totally without authorization, is a disgrace. Must have tough Primary!
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951109942685126656

The single greatest Witch Hunt in American history continues. There was no collusion, everybody including the Dems knows there was no collusion, & yet on and on it goes. Russia & the world is laughing at the stupidity they are witnessing. Republicans should finally take control!
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thaiboxerken said:
Ya, Grassley is angry saying that Feinstein has undermined the integrity of the Senate Investigation. The reality is that she exposed the lack of integrity and corrupt behavior of the GOP Senate "investigators."
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The hypocrisy reeks. Watching Peter King (Republican) on Fox News this morning clearly they are all ignoring reality and repeating their talking points:

The dossier is full of lies.
How did Steele know the FBI had another source.​

Supposedly that makes it suspicious even though we all know there was a WH leaker. Then King ignores he just said that and repeats the talking point that has been debunked:

Papadopoulos was a flunky, he didn't have any information.​

Really? So Papadopoulos told the Australian that Russia had DNC emails before that hack had been made public?


Then there was an attempt to cover up Trump's ignorance of what a "clean bill" was or his taking the wrong POV even though it had been seen by TV audiences already: Amended White House transcript reveals Trump showed brief interest in 'clean' DACA deal
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) proposed an agreement on the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals initiative, known as DACA, without provisions such as increased border security measures that Republicans want.

"What about a clean DACA bill now, with a commitment that we go into a comprehensive immigration reform procedure?" the Democratic lawmaker asked Trump.

"I have no problem," Trump said during the back and forth.

Pressed further by Feinstein on whether he'd be "agreeable" to the proposal, Trump replied: "Yeah, I would like — I would like to do that. Go ahead."...

The latter remarks, which prompted Republican lawmakers to jump in and stress to the president that the proposal did not align with their plans, were initially omitted from an official White House transcript of the meeting sent out Tuesday. But an amended record distributed by Wednesday included the comment by Trump.
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They tried to omit it but that drew even more attention to Trump's remarks. Morning Joe pointed out the blatant attempt to hide what we already saw. The WH corrected the transcript.
 
Darat said:
Remember you are in NTT (new Trump times), facts mean nothing any longer, the Republicans have already "won" on this point, people who would vote Republican will have heard its a fake dossier paid for by Clinton.
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And as proof of that, some of our resident right-wingers are still arguing those alternative [insert difficult swallowing sound here] facts.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And mentioned on the news this morning, it opens Cohen up to Discovery. I'm going to guess Trump put Cohen up to the lawsuit against legal advice.
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As with so many Donald Trump threats, like as not, nothing will come of it. I'm sure he's used the threat of legal action over the decades as a bully-boy tactic safe in the knowledge that many people lack the resources to call his bluff.

It seems that when his bluff is called then either the threat of suit quietly melts away or Donald Trump quietly settles it.
 
It's not Trump suing.
It's the lawyer.
He's mentioned in the dossier, and so he's suing for defamation .

Now, of course, since he was Trump's lawyer he may well have the same attitude to lawsuits as Trump, but I doubt it.
 
Tolls said:
It's not Trump suing.
It's the lawyer.
He's mentioned in the dossier, and so he's suing for defamation .

Now, of course, since he was Trump's lawyer he may well have the same attitude to lawsuits as Trump, but I doubt it.
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Yes, that's important. I didn't make that clear. I said it opens Cohen up to Discovery too, in case that wasn't clear. If Trump insisted in the lawsuit, could be Cohen did that to insulate Trump.
 
I've just seen something that's worth pointing out - Grassley is the person who has said that Feinstein releasing the transcript will make it harder to get testimony in the future. It was Grassley who recommended to the DOJ that they prosecute Steele. What does he imagine that would have done to potential future witnesses?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I've just seen something that's worth pointing out - Grassley is the person who has said that Feinstein releasing the transcript will make it harder to get testimony in the future. It was Grassley who recommended to the DOJ that they prosecute Steele. What does he imagine that would have done to potential future witnesses?
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And sadly those reporters taking his statement didn't ask anything about that, nor did they point out Grassley and Graham went behind the Democrats' back with their own little action. No one brought up the fact Feinstein acted only after G&G's stunt.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I've just seen something that's worth pointing out - Grassley is the person who has said that Feinstein releasing the transcript will make it harder to get testimony in the future. It was Grassley who recommended to the DOJ that they prosecute Steele. What does he imagine that would have done to potential future witnesses?
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Look here. Note that this is from several days ago, and only a couple of days after you were playing dumb about the Lindsey Graham video I rubbed under your noses.
 
I would also ignore a link posted to the TimeCube
 
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