Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
the page that Empress quoted but did not link to
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And more whining. Time to open your eyes, pal.
 
You're right, I did miss your link. I would apologise, but since there was no negative implication within my post, I don't feel I need to.

It's worth nothing, though, that you didn't dispute any of the facts I listed or point out where Parry's reporting really was as unbiased and factual as he claimed by covering all the salient facts, rather than just those that support the narrative that he is attempting to push. Because it is a fact, for example, that the Steele Dossier at no point claims that Donald Trump was urinated on, and it is also a fact that Parry asserts that it does.

Of course, everybody and every source has a bias. It's just that if someone is setting themselves up as just reporting the facts in an unbiased manner, then their reporting being selective or incorrect WRT the facts and thereby presenting a biased narrative, then their words have little weight.

Saying that pointing this out is "whining" is not a counter-argument.
 
Parry's Consortiumnews site is not pro-Trump but it is highly biased against any variety of "Russia-gate" theories. For example, it's fair to point out that we, the public, haven't seen the evidence of Russians hacking the DNC, but it's also fair to point out that virtually everyone who has seen the evidence (including Trump, at one point) seems to find it credible. And it's fair to point out that the VIPS group analysis implies that the DNC emails were copied directly from a computer, not across the net, but the illogical conclusion that it must have been the DNC computer, not the hacker's, is not challenged. And I don't believe you'll find anything on that site about the slowly unraveling story of covered-up contacts between Russians and TrumpCo, such as Papadopolous knowing from his Russian contact about "Hillary dirt" emails well before they were dumped to Wikileaks -- which ironically seems to have actually been the genesis of the Russia-gate investigations.

Parry claims to be unbiased; Trump claims to be like, very smart.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It's nothing more than a smear campaign. What's actually worrisome is seeing Graham and Grassley leading this fake charge.

Have these GOP legislators not yet recognized Trump is a sinking ship?

Makes me curious if there isn't something about Pence that worries them even more than Trump.
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As McConnell is quoted as saying, they don't care, as long as Trump is willing to sign anything they put in front of him.

Same reason any speculation about the 25th being invoked is a dud.
 
Knowing that 100% of the folk who deal with Trump think of him a fool, it's pretty clear all lawmakers are desperately maintaining the fiction that they support him just so that they can enact their agenda. A barely sentient yam duly elected would serve their purposes if it could scratch a signature to their bills.
 
Here's a longer interview about Russiagate with Peter Lavelle, (American) RT talkshow host and publisher of The Duran. I don't know who the guy interviewing him is and only watched the first couple of minutes, but if you don't know Lavelle, take a look - certainly a character.

 
Well, if anybody finds the idea of Russia interfering in the elections of a foreign country implausible, then know that Trump's National Security Advisor, who replaced Flynn, believes that there is already evidence Russia has interfered in the upcoming Mexican election:

U.S. National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said in a speech last month to the Washington-based Jamestown Foundation that there was already evidence of Russian meddling in Mexican elections set for July.

“We’ve seen that this is really a sophisticated effort to polarize democratic societies and pit communities within those societies against each other,” said McMaster in a previously unreported video clip from Dec. 15 that was posted on Twitter by a reporter with Mexican daily newspaper Reforma on Saturday.

“You’ve seen, actually, initial signs of it in the Mexican presidential campaign already,” said McMaster, a former Army general.

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President Donald Trump’s senior national security aide added in the clip that the U.S. government was concerned by Russia’s use of advanced cyber tools to push propaganda and disinformation.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Have these GOP legislators not yet recognized Trump is a sinking ship?
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The problem is, there are a whole bunch of Trump fans who will probably not vote Republican in the next election if the GOP doesn't do everything they can to send by the racist Orangutan. Not only that, they risk alienating the guy that they are supposed to be working with, risking that Trump will fail to be the puppet they want.

So, damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Makes me curious if there isn't something about Pence that worries them even more than Trump.
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Pence doesn't have the personality that Trump has, nor the ability to con people.

I suspect that in an election, people will see Pence as the stuffy religious theocrat. That may get the republicans the evangelical vote, but none of the "drain the swamp!" brand Trump supporters.
 
a_unique_person said:
At least they are trying to place an ambassador there. Australia still doesn't have one after a year and there is no apparent plan to put one there.
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That may have to do with the fact that 99% of the animals in Australia will kill you if they have the chance.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Best part so far: FBI had a source inside TrumpCo before they talked to Steele.
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Papadopoulos was the start of the investigation.

Simpson’s testimony appears to independently corroborate what the New York Times already reported — the FBI listened to Steele because they already had an investigation into this question underway, an investigation that was launched because Papadopoulos’s conversation with Downer was shared with other Australian officials, who ultimately passed word of it to their American counterparts once the hacking of Democratic email accounts became a big deal.

As best as we can tell, this, rather than Steele’s memo, was the start of the

investigation.
And while the investigation has not yet proven the existence of anything like the vast conspiracy that Steele alleges, it certainly has uncovered real evidence of wrongdoing — including a guilty plea from Papadopoulos himself, and serious charges against former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
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Another thing we've learned is that Alexander Downer and Chris Steele care a lot more about U.S. national security than the GOP politicians knowingly lying about the dossier.
 
WilliamSeger said:
I've not had time to read them yet, and probably won't today, but the Fusion GPS testimony transcripts have just been released
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Best part so far: FBI had a source inside TrumpCo before they talked to Steele.
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I think the best part is this:

I understand Chris severed his relationship with the FBI out of concern that he didn't know what was happening inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people and that we didn't really understand what was going on. So he stopped dealing with them.

Yet Trump repeatedly claims that somehow the FBI has some sort of anti-Trump vendetta.
 
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