Alien Visitation Contact Proof

[cjdelphi]

Are the aliens in the room with us right now?

Can you show us on the doll where the aliens touched you?

Or didn't touch you?

Did you attend english classes in school? I clearly said I have no memory of it..

Yes they touched me up and anally probed me, is that what your school child like mind wants to hear? The worst anal probing ever....

Oh yeah so funny.. I'm in stitches, anal! You like the word anal you want to hear it mentioned as you involved "touching" even though I have no memory of it

 

[Myriad]

I can show you the relation there definitely is one

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/752886/Electrical-power-CUTS-Aylesbury-Buckinghamshire-UFO

There's also a farm in romania where the strange lights got closer and next thing they know total darkness

I think tiredness is just a result of being awake for a period of time but no memory

Cjdelphi, a flying saucer could land on the White House lawn later today, a bunch of green-skinned four-foot-tall aliens march out of it, announce a deal to to trade their technology for our zzz-zzinc, and issue a formal apology for the millions of times they've flown over towns abducting people...

And I still wouldn't believe your video shows one of those times. Everything in it is consistent with completely normal phenomena: a local power outage caused by an animal shorting a piece of equipment, a recloser performing its intended function causing a transient in the power lines to your home, causing different lights (from among the same lights that light the scene before the outage) to flicker for a few video frames, a habitually glitchy video camera being glitchy, and one odd electronic sound caused by some other electrically powered device in the room reacting oddly to the transient power.

(You keep misrepresenting the transient power caused by a recliner's normal operation as a "brownout" but that's not what the word means. The transient is can be up to the full line voltage, but when it doesn't stay on long enough to charge up the capacitors in power supply circuits or overcome the capacitive impedance of the branch lines, devices won't power on fully, and whether or not any given device appears to briefly "turn on" depends on design factors and chance. A brownout is sustained power of significantly lower than nominal voltage, which is a different thing and causes different behavior.)

With the exception of the glitchy camera, I've seen all these things happen during local power outages, the most recent of which was also caused by an animal shorting equipment (though falling trees and branches are a far more common cause here). It took several such events to figure out that a certain strange buzzing sound that happened during reclosure glitches was coming from my gas oven. It has electronic controls but no buzzer (it uses a high-pitched beep for alerts) but given a transient power spike it buzzes nonetheless. I don't know why and I don't really care, and I certainly don't know (and don't really care either) which of the devices in your room might have done something similar.

I predict that someday, there will be some other power irregularity in your lines, and you'll hear that same sound again, but while awake this time. And you'll say to yourself either, "OMG the aliens have come back for me!" or "Oh, I guess I was wrong about it being aliens that other time." But based on this thread so far, probably the first one.

 

[cjdelphi]

Yet the believers in crop circles are as adamant as you are that their evidence is undeniable. Funny that.

I've investigated them

I've seen them faked, I've seen 3D barcode style ones done, there's no truth to any of them except for 1 report which I believe stated it all off

https://youtu.be/ap_gvUiJKGs

He said he saw them hanging around a fresh water supply (I guess cleaner or fresher, lack of salts etc) sucking it up and while they were fuelling up the others were in a field waiting on the ground

I've seen all the shapes and I've never seen a ufo shaped jellyfish or 3d bar code to make a 3d barcode or jelly fish shaped imprint into the ground

The quicker you learn I'm an ex skeptic who has seen too much evidence , the better

 

[Jack by the hedge]

As I said before all the evidence one needs is in that video and it rules out anything man made

You have not even discounted the possibility that you were hoaxed by pranksters.

This forum began as the James Randi Education Foundation forum. The late Mr Randi took a particular interest in people making paranormal claims and there are plenty of examples of serious scientists investigating such people being fooled by simple tricks because they just didn't think about the ways they might be deliberately fooled by a disingenuous subject. Randi by contrast was a magician, and professionally interested and well versed in many ways in which people get fooled.

The foundation had a million dollar challenge for anyone who could demonstrate a paranormal ability in a test whose protocol was designed and agreed by both parties to eliminate all possibility of cheating. Of course it was never won.

You have not even begun to eliminate the possibilities.

 

[cjdelphi]

Cjdelphi, a flying saucer could land on the White House lawn later today, a bunch of green-skinned four-foot-tall aliens march out of it, announce a deal to to trade their technology for our zzz-zzinc, and issue a formal apology for the millions of times they've flown over towns abducting people...

And I still wouldn't believe your video shows one of those times. Everything in it is consistent with completely normal phenomena: a local power outage caused by an animal shorting a piece of equipment, a recloser performing its intended function causing a transient in the power lines to your home, causing different lights (from among the same lights that light the scene before the outage) to flicker for a few video frames, a habitually glitchy video camera being glitchy, and one odd electronic sound caused by some other electrically powered device in the room reacting oddly to the transient power.

(You keep misrepresenting the transient power caused by a recliner's normal operation as a "brownout" but that's not what the word means. The transient is can be up to the full line voltage, but when it doesn't stay on long enough to charge up the capacitors in power supply circuits or overcome the capacitive impedance of the branch lines, devices won't power on fully, and whether or not any given device appears to briefly "turn on" depends on design factors and chance. A brownout is sustained power of significantly lower than nominal voltage, which is a different thing and causes different behavior.)

With the exception of the glitchy camera, I've seen all these things happen during local power outages, the most recent of which was also caused by an animal shorting equipment (though falling trees and branches are a far more common cause here). It took several such events to figure out that a certain strange buzzing sound that happened during reclosure glitches was coming from my gas oven. It has electronic controls but no buzzer (it uses a high-pitched beep for alerts) but given a transient power spike it buzzes nonetheless. I don't know why and I don't really care, and I certainly don't know (and don't really care either) which of the devices in your room might have done something similar.

I predict that someday, there will be some other power irregularity in your lines, and you'll hear that same sound again, but while awake this time. And you'll say to yourself either, "OMG the aliens have come back for me!" or "Oh, I guess I was wrong about it being aliens that other time." But based on this thread so far, probably the first one.

Yes yes, have you read the definition of 'skeptic' you need an alien to crash into you and then you would still be uncertain, that's your problem not mine, you limit yourself to the confines of your little safe space or bubble.


Your bubble is going to pop

 

[Pixel42]

I'm expecting the the navy to release high resolution detailed photos of these craft

OK.

So if that doesn't happen in the next 5-10 years, will you accept that you are mistaken? That your highly imaginative interpretation of what is going on in your, and other, videos is not correct?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Nobody cares I was visited...

Believes. Nobody believes you were visited, because your evidence is so feeble.

 

[cjdelphi]

You have not even discounted the possibility that you were hoaxed by pranksters.

This forum began as the James Randi Education Foundation forum. The late Mr Randi took a particular interest in people making paranormal claims and there are plenty of examples of serious scientists investigating such people being fooled by simple tricks because they just didn't think about the ways they might be deliberately fooled by a disingenuous subject. Randi by contrast was a magician, and professionally interested and well versed in many ways in which people get fooled.

The foundation had a million dollar challenge for anyone who could demonstrate a paranormal ability in a test whose protocol was designed and agreed by both parties to eliminate all possibility of cheating. Of course it was never won.

You have not even begun to eliminate the possibilities.

Pranksters...

That's as bad as sabotaging the power lines and government spy bs, pranksters messing with power lines need to go prison... and if you believe pranksters can do it, you must have some idea how to replicate what we see?

How would it be done?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Pranksters...

That's as bad as sabotaging the power lines and government spy bs, pranksters messing with power lines need to go prison... and if you believe pranksters can do it, you must have some idea how to replicate what we see?

How would it be done?

You're saying it's literally impossible then?

Government spies - laughable
Alien spies - the only alternative

Your threshold for believing something possible seems to be rather lower for technologies which have not been demonstrated to exist.

 

[Myriad]

Yes yes, have you read the definition of 'skeptic' you need an alien to crash into you and then you would still be uncertain, that's your problem not mine, you limit yourself to the confines of your little safe space or bubble.

Your bubble is going to pop

Insufficient evidence is still insufficient evidence. Even in a hypothetical world where aliens exist and act openly and everyone knows and acknowledges it, there would be more likely explanations for the content of your video than alien action.

In that world, based on your video you accuse the aliens of abducting you in your sleep and causing lasting fatigue, which constitutes assault. You take them to court. But the aliens deny they were there that night. Their lawyer makes the same points I've been making in this thread. The judge and the process are fair, deciding based only on the evidence presented. Do you have any chance of winning the case?

 

[cjdelphi]

OK.

So if that doesn't happen in the next 5-10 years, will you accept that you are mistaken? That your highly imaginative interpretation of what is going on in your, and other, videos is not correct?

My video is correct that's what it caught that is what happend and that will never change, skeptics will never be able to explain something that was never done by humans to begin with

Even with high resolution photos, people will say well.. even if they are nobody is being abducted

We always play this game, and now the skeptics have way less pieces on the board vs belivers these days, we will learn more, if in 10 years we don't it may take 20, I hope it is much sooner like 2 to 3 years

But they have it classified and we can't see it... period but even with high resolution videos and photos, that's not proof of alien abduction, that's just proof we are being visited

If in 5 years you see high resolution photos of alien craft and possibly onboard creatures themselves will you believe my video and admit yes they are abducting us? Or will you want more proof of that, ok sure they are here but ...

But nothing, they might be underwater in the air, hiding in the air, doesn't matter really does it, they could be everywhere it changes nothing about human civilisation

But proof they abduct people is on a different level to them just being here, I'm excited it happened, sad they never took me, scared of what I may have experienced or seen ..

Scared of knowing what happened if something did

But as we both know high resolution photos of aliens so yeah big deal, but people don't know abductions are happening to people and not having a single clue..

Ever woken up feeling like a zombie? Were you aware of a flash of light? ... however unlikely those are the questions I now have for people who also witnessed this flash of light

Google "flash of light outside window"
"Camera flash outside window"

They're all clueless what it was which is a far cry from "I was abducted by greys and anally probed" it means anyone could be a victim absolutely anyone including yourself

And even if I'm the slightest bit close to what's going on, people should know!

 

[cjdelphi]

Insufficient evidence is still insufficient evidence. Even in a hypothetical world where aliens exist and act openly and everyone knows and acknowledges it, there would be more likely explanations for the content of your video than alien action.

In that world, based on your video you accuse the aliens of abducting you in your sleep and causing lasting fatigue, which constitutes assault. You take them to court. But the aliens deny they were there that night. Their lawyer makes the same points I've been making in this thread. The judge and the process are fair, deciding based only on the evidence presented. Do you have any chance of winning the case?

But that's the point up until recently I believed only nutters said they were abducted, large eyes and probing ... ugh

It's bs, I bet that's what the government and the aliens want people to think, as long as it's only thrse crazies, the general population is safe..


But that is what this video is implying nobody is safe, people are being abducted, being extremely tired and that's it.

Yes, too right it's assault, hence the anger part ...

Just imagine for 1 second the guy next to you who went sleep early but woke up feeling like a truck hit him... you just don't know, that's why this video is so important, it's not the crazies being abducted it's everyone and anyone!

 

[cjdelphi]

Insufficient evidence is still insufficient evidence. Even in a hypothetical world where aliens exist and act openly and everyone knows and acknowledges it, there would be more likely explanations for the content of your video than alien action.

In that world, based on your video you accuse the aliens of abducting you in your sleep and causing lasting fatigue, which constitutes assault. You take them to court. But the aliens deny they were there that night. Their lawyer makes the same points I've been making in this thread. The judge and the process are fair, deciding based only on the evidence presented. Do you have any chance of winning the case?

You're saying it's literally impossible then?

Government spies - laughable
Alien spies - the only alternative

Your threshold for believing something possible seems to be rather lower for technologies which have not been demonstrated to exist.

Random people are being taken and all they exhibit is tiredness anyone who's seen a strange flash of light, woken up tired real tired for no good reason.... better start asking questions

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Okay, I will. My next question is what have you done to independently confirm what the cause of the power cut was?

 

[Pixel42]

If in 5 years you see high resolution photos of alien craft and possibly onboard creatures themselves will you believe my video and admit yes they are abducting us?

I've seen loads of high resolution photos of alien craft and creatures, having seen loads of science fiction films and TV series which heavily feature them. So it would certainly take more than that for me to believe that real alien craft and creatures are visiting my planet. But even if I'm convinced of that (and it would only take some actual objective evidence) I would still see no reason to believe that your highly imaginative interpretation of a perfectly ordinary video of a power cut was correct.

 

[cjdelphi]

Okay, I will. My next question is what have you done to independently confirm what the cause of the power cut was?

I walked over there the next day so no damage no bbq'ed bats all looks fine, voltage checks out fine no fluctuations the last one was 7 or 8 years ago here

Not that all flashes are this obviously and not all people waking up tired are abduction victims, but if like all the people on google who are asking for help were indeed tired that next morning or anything unusual after experiencing a strange camera like flash, I'd seriously wonder if what's in this video happened to them

But getting answers from 8 year old threads and from people who forgot they even asked the question is surprising difficult, I tracked down Ben Hanson, Nick.Pope, Shelly someone and Mufon and got replies before anyone ever gets back to me about their flash of light experience

 

[cjdelphi]

I've seen loads of high resolution photos of alien craft and creatures, having seen loads of science fiction films and TV series which heavily feature them. So it would certainly take more than that for me to believe that real alien craft and creatures are visiting my planet. But even if I'm convinced of that (and it would only take some actual objective evidence) I would still see no reason to believe that your highly imaginative interpretation of a perfectly ordinary video of a power cut was correct.

Uh oh, you have seen alien creatures and craft? But you don't believe it, probably because it's fake, you haven't seen anything confirmed real... yet, get a move on navy...

I've seen fake aliens it's all funny.. esp when they climb through the chimney, and people fall for CGI, people are idiots

Regarding perfectly normal power cut video...

If that was true nobody would be accusing me of faking it and sabotaging power lines now would they, the ones who have seen and understand what I'm saying did very much see what I did... I have 2 well respected ufo investigators agree I was visited if nothing else

I do believe some people can not see the flash of light it's like it's invisible to them and 9 out of 10 non skeptics will never reply back to me, it is only the skeptics that do..

That's strange right?

 

[Olmstead]

Uh oh, you have seen alien creatures and craft? But you don't believe it, probably because it's fake, you haven't seen anything confirmed real... yet, get a move on navy...

I've seen fake aliens it's all funny.. esp when they climb through the chimney, and people fall for CGI, people are idiots

Regarding perfectly normal power cut video...

If that was true nobody would be accusing me of faking it and sabotaging power lines now would they, the ones who have seen and understand what I'm saying did very much see what I did... I have 2 well respected ufo investigators agree I was visited if nothing else

I do believe some people can not see the flash of light it's like it's invisible to them and 9 out of 10 non skeptics will never reply back to me, it is only the skeptics that do..

That's strange right?

A momentary bright spot on a tree and a short strange noise on a recording. Your evidence.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I walked over there the next day so no damage no bbq'ed bats all looks fine...

How did you discover where the fault supposedly occurred?

 

[wareyin]

But that's the point up until recently I believed only nutters said they were abducted, large eyes and probing ... ugh

And other than a power outage recorded on a cheap camera with glitches combined with you not getting a restful sleep, what changed your mind?