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A new investigation for 9/11. Why?

Luntoc said:
Personally I wouldn't mind a new investigation just to shut them up. However, some people like Alex Jones and James Fetzer will never be convinced. If every governemnt in the world was to set up their own investigation and every one of them came to the same conclusion they still woudln't believe it. There are die hard moon landing and holocaust deniers as well as JFK assassination theorists that will never be convinced period. No matter what. Its just the way it is.
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The 9/11 conspiracy theories have been so thoroughly debunked, that the only way you're still a twoofer is if

A) You're too lazy to do research.
This is a level of lazy that's astounding. How hard is it to go to Google, type in a few words, and then scan over the results? (Why should I spend 60 minutes watching a YouTube CT video, when they can't even spend 10 minutes at a debunker site?)

Then, there's the alternative:
B) You can't be convinced, no matter what.

Neither of these two types will be convinced by any new investigation.
Besides, what's a new investigation going to come up with, that hasn't already been uncovered?
 
B) You can't be convinced, no matter what.

They will always ask for a new investigation until they get the answers they secretly want.

Some truth...more like a game of Yahtzee(tm)...keep rolling until you get that 5th 6. Bah!

(sorry back to lurk)
 
T.A.M. said:
Well I am Canadian, so it's you money America, spend it as you will.

That said, if I was American I would be a little pissed to have millions of my dollars spent on a second go at what was an incredibly thorough investigation, simply because some washed up proffs, liberal old dudes, and young angry virginswanted it.

TAM:)
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Fixed that for you. :D
 
UNLoVedRebel said:
What are the "unanswered questions" the petition refers to and why did they leave it out?
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I'm not allowed to post a link, but at the nyccan dot com site, you can see the questions. Almost all are related to security and intelligence. Some are just stupid (why did you keep reading My Pet Goat after Andrew Card whispered in your ear) and some are misinformed (Bin Laden family flies out when all flights are grounded !!1!!1!) None - ZERO - have anything to do with controlled demolition or any such nonsense.
 
carlitos said:
I'm not allowed to post a link, but at the nyccan dot com site, you can see the questions. Almost all are related to security and intelligence. Some are just stupid (why did you keep reading My Pet Goat after Andrew Card whispered in your ear) and some are misinformed (Bin Laden family flies out when all flights are grounded !!1!!1!) None - ZERO - have anything to do with controlled demolition or any such nonsense.
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NYCCan should not be mistaken for the wide and deep independent investigation the Truth Movement are demandng. There will be no soft questions then. No stone will be left unturned. But NYCCan will no doubt prise some nuggets of information loose that we will slot into the bigger picture. All investigations are useful now.
 
bill smith said:
NYCCan should not be mistaken for the wide and deep independent investigation the Truth Movement are demandng.
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no it shouldnt be
intel failures vs supernanomissiles loaded with thermitic lasers lol
bill smith said:
There will be no soft questions then. No stone will be left unturned. But NYCCan will no doubt prise some nuggets of information loose that we will slot into the bigger picture. All investigations are useful now.
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stop muddying those waters please
youre not in the same group as this
 
bill smith said:
NYCCan should not be mistaken for the wide and deep independent investigation the Truth Movement are demandng. There will be no soft questions then. No stone will be left unturned. But NYCCan will no doubt prise some nuggets of information loose that we will slot into the bigger picture. All investigations are useful now.
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Translation: We're hoping to get someone to misspeak or otherwise stumble so we can twist his/her words to fit our claims of "inside jobby job".
 
Bill,


What is going to happen when they find the exact same thing as the 9/11 comission does?? Oh, and how are they going to get access to the G-14 top secret classified information like the abilities fo Air Force One, or how many steps it take to get to the PEOC, or some other privliged information. How are they going to get access to it?? Just because they say "Give it to us" they have to just hand it over????
 
bill smith said:
NYCCan should not be mistaken for the wide and deep independent investigation the Truth Movement are demandng. There will be no soft questions then. No stone will be left unturned. But NYCCan will no doubt prise some nuggets of information loose that we will slot into the bigger picture. All investigations are useful now.
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Your insane, fraudulent movement isn't demanding anything deep or independent. As the America-hating morons who plod on and on telling their pathetic lies understand very well, once real scientists and engineers get involved, the results of the new investigation will necessarily mirror the results of the original one. You are asking that a panel of charlatans and loons be set up as judges in a kangaroo court. Your lynch mob has its verdict. It don' need no stinkin' evidence.
 
bill smith said:
NYCCan should not be mistaken for the wide and deep independent investigation the Truth Movement are demandng. There will be no soft questions then. No stone will be left unturned. But NYCCan will no doubt prise some nuggets of information loose that we will slot into the bigger picture. All investigations are useful now.
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FACT: based on poll results, the % of people who believe the US Government covered up some portion of 9/11 is FAR greater than the % of people who believe the US Government planned/executed some portion of 9/11.

FACT: their investigation cannot move forward without a majority vote in NYC.

FACT: there is no mention of the Family Steering Committee or their list of questions in the petition itself.

Draw your own conclusions - "..wherever the facts may lead."
 
triforcharity said:
Bill,


What is going to happen when they find the exact same thing as the 9/11 comission does?? Oh, and how are they going to get access to the G-14 top secret classified information like the abilities fo Air Force One, or how many steps it take to get to the PEOC, or some other privliged information. How are they going to get access to it?? Just because they say "Give it to us" they have to just hand it over????
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NYCCan will have subpoena powers. That means they can put people on the stand under oath. Many individuals will be responsive to that and it brings a degree of protection with it. People may have something they want to say under those conditions.
 
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deep44 said:
FACT: based on poll results, the % of people who believe the US Government covered up some portion of 9/11 is FAR greater than the % of people who believe the US Government planned/executed some portion of 9/11.

FACT: their investigation cannot move forward without a majority vote in NYC.

FACT: there is no mention of the Family Steering Committee or their list of questions in the petition itself.

Draw your own conclusions - "..wherever the facts may lead."
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Who is their ? Them ? Who are these people ?
 
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deep44 said:
FACT: based on poll results, the % of people who believe the US Government covered up some portion of 9/11 is FAR greater than the % of people who believe the US Government planned/executed some portion of 9/11.

FACT: their investigation cannot move forward without a majority vote in NYC.

FACT: there is no mention of the Family Steering Committee or their list of questions in the petition itself.

Draw your own conclusions - "..wherever the facts may lead."
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Another 9/11 Commission you mean ? Maybe we can make it a little hotter for them this time round.
 
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Bill,

Have you dolts figured out that just because someone is under oath, that it automatically makes them tell the truth?? Wasn't Clinton under oath when HE lied??

How about Timothy McVeigh?? Did he tell the truth when he stood trial??

How about OJ Simpson?? Nope, not their either.

Do you think that just because someone is under oath, they are automatically going to confess to the biggest single mass murder in US History?? Do you REALLY believe that??

God, I hope not.

But, if they WERE to put GWB on the stand, and they ask him questions, couldn't he just say, "I plead the 5th??" They couldn't ask him ANY MORE QUESTIONS!! It would be a blockade. Sure, it would seem suspicious, but they wouldn't be able to prove anything.

Oh, and do I as a former employee of FDNY, would I have to testify under oath?? Because of my Union Contract with NYC says any questioning that I undergo, I have the right to have my attorney present. Would this little kangaroo court abolish my rights guaranteed by the US Constitution??? If it does, I will NOT show up, I would NOT answer any questions, and I would tell them where to stick it. And they would throw me in jail for what????? They couldn't.
 
bill smith said:
Another 9/11 Commission you mean ? Maybe we can make it a little hotter for them this time round.
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Who are "we"? Will your America-hating liars subpoena Dave Bottiglia and his colleagues? Will they ask "deep" questions of Lehigh metallurgist Alan Pense? How hot will your ignorant frauds make it for the forensic examiners and the Lamont-Doherty seismologists? Will your theologians and Marxist literary theorists manage to "crack" the strutural engineers and fire safety experts consulted by NIST? How will your talk radio blowhards expose the demolition professionals? Who among your gaggle of dishonest scoundrels will dare to grill the heroes of the FDNY?

Bye, Bill. Sorry you had to run.
 
triforcharity said:
Bill,

Have you dolts figured out that just because someone is under oath, that it automatically makes them tell the truth?? Wasn't Clinton under oath when HE lied??

How about Timothy McVeigh?? Did he tell the truth when he stood trial??

How about OJ Simpson?? Nope, not their either.

Do you think that just because someone is under oath, they are automatically going to confess to the biggest single mass murder in US History?? Do you REALLY believe that??

God, I hope not.

But, if they WERE to put GWB on the stand, and they ask him questions, couldn't he just say, "I plead the 5th??" They couldn't ask him ANY MORE QUESTIONS!! It would be a blockade. Sure, it would seem suspicious, but they wouldn't be able to prove anything.

Oh, and do I as a former employee of FDNY, would I have to testify under oath?? Because of my Union Contract with NYC says any questioning that I undergo, I have the right to have my attorney present. Would this little kangaroo court abolish my rights guaranteed by the US Constitution??? If it does, I will NOT show up, I would NOT answer any questions, and I would tell them where to stick it. And they would throw me in jail for what????? They couldn't.
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That sounds just like '' You can't prove it Copper''. '' I ain't talkin' '' It will fool nobody. When it goes out on the wire you may find that a National and Interntional kitchen-table judgement is almost as effective as a judicial one. Just in a different way.
 
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Almost only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.

I personally will do exactly what I said I would. I will tell them to stick it, as they cannot force me to answer any questions. Not a single one. I don't have anything to hide, but I think this is a waste of my time.

BTW, did they think about the cost of flying me to NYC from Florida, the time I have to take off from work, and the hotel while I am there?? How many other people do they plan on questioning?? I bet this hasn't really been thought about. Typical. Idiots.
 
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