9/11 Truthers - Post Your Conspiracy Theory Here

[PerryLogan]

I guess if the terrists did have uzis, the troofers would be saying: "how the hell did they get those weapons past security, plastic knives would be 100 times easier to sneak past the metall detectors than submachine guns. Inside job!!!"

So no matter what weapons the hijackers had, they will always be "proof" of an inside job.

You're right--except that if it were a real conspiracy, all such questions would be answered in the cover story. They could say the hijackers had colleagues working in security. They could say they rigged the metal detectors. Whatever. The point is that real conspirators don't put holes in their cover story. This goes right over the CT's' heads.

 

[Bubbers]

Truthers are Pathetic Fantasists

So far we have had two truthers post and all 28thK does is joke about it which speaks volumes about his evidence that he claims to have. He has said that he would bet the lives of everyone he knows that 9/11 was an inside job, but he can't even tell you what his theory is. Then you have pagan, who spouts the usual truther crap with his "I don't need to tell you what I think happened, all I know is that the government version of the story is a lie". This tactic is typical of most over at the LC forums(before they banned everyone). A skeptic asks what their exact theory is, and they feed you that same old tired line every time. Note to truthers: You can't go around claiming that you know something is wrong with the official story, and give no evidence or even your own opinion as to what happened. This is why most people think you are all crazy. By spewing lines like that, all you're really doing is conceding that you are wrong. Stop being so smug about everything that you "know", and tell us exactly what you think happened, or shut up about it. The hole you are digging for yourselves gets deeper and deeper every day. Maybe it's time for a little damage control. Admit that you're wrong now and maybe people will be able to have some sort of respect for you in the future.

 

[The Doc]

You're right--except that if it were a real conspiracy, all such questions would be answered in the cover story. They could say the hijackers had colleagues working in security. They could say they rigged the metal detectors. Whatever. The point is that real conspirators don't put holes in their cover story. This goes right over the CT's' heads.

Very nicely put Perry

But of course the answer to that would be "OMFG! They left holes so people like you can say that! Can't you see we're all right where they want us WTF!...... WTC7!"

 

[PerryLogan]

Curse those conspiracy guys! They're just too clever for us.

 

[JonnyFive]

Nope, I'm not going to start a new thread following your formula. I don't like to be railroaded. As I already have stated in a previous reply.

Subpoena. Yes, that was what I meant. You've to have a little understanding of my somewhat limited English. It is not my mothertongue.

So you're saying you're skeptical of the official story based on no evidence, with nothing to support this allegation, right?

I'm guessing you have not read any of the technical or official reports based on 9/11, either government or non-government.

I'm sorry I'm not up on whatever it is you currently believe, but could you please tell us at least if you believe the towers collapsed due to impact damage and fire, demolitions, space beams, or whatever?

Why are you skeptical of anything without evidence? Why haven't you told us what exactly in the official reports (not just the basic core story, but the specifics of the various reports available) and corroborating evidence makes you skeptical?

 

[Belz...]

I wish I could do that. But, we simply don't know what happened that day.

Well, what's all those claims about, then ?

Well, we are sure about at least one thing and that is that the Gov't version, the official conspiracy theory. The one about 19 Mulim cokeheads equipped with boxcutters is false. There is simply no evidence for it.

No non-planted evidence, you mean ?

The only way to find out is to have a new investigation as independent as possible, I would love to see representatives from the 911 truth movement and from the victim families in the commission.

Impossible, all the experts have been bought or bullied, and laymen like you only use "common sense" to reach conclusions. You're all screwed!

I love CT logic.

 

[MortFurd]

I wish I could do that. But, we simply don't know what happened that day. Well, we are sure about at least one thing and that is that the Gov't version, the official conspiracy theory. The one about 19 Mulim cokeheads equipped with boxcutters is false. There is simply no evidence for it.

The only way to find out is to have a new investigation as independent as possible, I would love to see representatives from the 911 truth movement and from the victim families in the commission.
Supina powers and total access to all archives would also be needed.

I could go a long with representatives of the families of the victims. They've got a legitemate interest in what happened, and their presence would serve as a pointed reminder to all involved as to the effects of 911 and the need to learn as much as possible about what happened so that we can better prepared to stop the next attack.

I could not go along with anyone from the 911 "truth movement." You people have consistently shown yourselves to be clueless, inconsiderate liars incapable of recognizing reality. You people have no concept of physics or engineering, you misquote to support your fantasies, out and out lie when you cannot find a quote to mangle, and you put the victims in collusion with a fantasy "enemy" all the while ridiculing and minimizing the losses suffered on September 11, 2001.

Spare me your "concerns" about the perpetrators of 911. Terrorists did it, and they died. The planners are still at large - and are NOT members of the US goverment.

If you had a shred of decency and a desire to make a difference to the victims of the attacks, you would be in New York protesting for better treatment of the survivors. You would be demanding a deep look into the handling of the health problems that the firemen who saved so many lives on 911 are now facing in consequence. You would be demanding more research into the health consequences for everyone who was in the vicinity of the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings.

You 911 "truth movement" people have no humanity, no sympathy, no empathy, no imagination, and no intelligence. You should count yourselves lucky that the rest of us are more humane. With people of your nature in charge, all the world's societies would rapidly devolve into the paranoid, backstabbing, vicious free for all that can be seen on any "truth movement" forum - and seen anywhere that a group of you manages to get together in real life.

 

[pchams]

Perry Logan.
Do you have a problem with "white guys"?
This is about the third post from you I have read with racist remarks about "white guys".
Are you the great apologist for the "white race"?
Is there such a thing?
Tell me who you are really directing your hatred towards.

 

[WildCat]

The planners are still at large - and are NOT members of the US goverment.

Actually the main planner - Khalid Sheikh Muhammed - is cooling his heels at Gitmo.

 

[MortFurd]

Actually the main planner - Khalid Sheikh Muhammed - is cooling his heels at Gitmo.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[The Doc]

The all knowing Jason Bermas claims he's been executed

 

[PerryLogan]

I guess he's being tortured to death, along with a lot of innocent people. So everything is OK.

Perry Logan.
Do you have a problem with "white guys"?
This is about the third post from you I have read with racist remarks about "white guys".
Are you the great apologist for the "white race"?
Is there such a thing?
Tell me who you are really directing your hatred towards.

Er...I don't understand the questions.

You somewhat irrationally say that I, a white guy, have a "problem" with white guys.

Then you call me "racist," which doesn't compute. It's also bad form to call people names.

Then you contradict yourself by calling me an "apologist" for the white race. That's a lot of mileage from my use of one phrase!

Then you step further into the ozone--to read my mind and say I'm filled with hatred. Jeezums-peezums.

You wouldn't be a conspiracy guy, would you?

 

[The Doc]

I guess he's being tortured to death, along with a lot of innocent people.

Just for the record (in case our the CTists use this against you), by "along with a lot of innocent people" you are not implying that [SIZE=-1]Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is innocent are you?

I'm 99.99% positive you aren't, but you know how the Woo Woo's love to quote mine.
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[PerryLogan]

Just for the record (in case our the CTists use this against you), by "along with a lot of innocent people" you are not implying that [SIZE=-1]Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is innocent are you?[/SIZE]

Thanks for your concern, but if the conspiracy guys want to smear me, they'll do it with or without quotes.

I don't know if [SIZE=-1]Khalid Shaikh Mohammed[/SIZE] is guilty or not. But it is common knowledge that most of the people at Gitmo are innocent. This fact certainly doesn't make him seem any guiltier to me.

I was kind of hoping they'd all be charged with crimes or set free---you know, the whole habeus corpus thing. We can torture them after we've convicted them. Just a thought.

 

[The Doc]

I don't know if he's guilty. I was kind of hoping he and the other folks at Gitmo would be charged with crimes or set free---you know, the whole habeus corpus thing.

Fair call.

 

[pagan]

This is a challenge to the 9/11 truthers. Since the accepted version of events on 9/11 are available in the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST publications, I'd like to hear your version of events.

This is not the thread to question the accepted version. Instead, simply provide the basics - who, what, when, where, how, why - of what you believed happened and the evidence that supports it. Since the accepted version contains all of those things, you should also do so.

What I want out of this thread is to find out what you've pieced together in your 5+ years of hard research and investigations.

OK. wildcat i'm gonna spell it out to you.

Marsians? Have your ever heard of the Marsians? Little green men? Those little fellows are responsible. And you my dear Wildcat are one of them and you know it.

Area 51 was a Marsian thing. You enginerd it. You green guys landed there and after that you have attemted to take over our planet.

Just one q: how do you disguise your green complexion?

 

[The Doc]

OK. wildcat i'm gonna spell it out to you.

Marsians? Have your ever heard of the Marsians? Little green men? Those little fellows are responsible. And you my dear Wildcat are one of them and you know it.

Area 51 was a Marsian thing. You enginerd it. You green guys landed there and after that you have attemted to take over our planet.

Just one q: how do you disguise your green complexion?

You mean "Martian"? This isn't an insult by the way. Just offering a correction.

 

[pagan]

You mean "Martian"? This isn't an insult by the way. Just offering a correction.

And much appreciated.

 

[MortFurd]

OK. wildcat i'm gonna spell it out to you.

Marsians? Have your ever heard of the Marsians? Little green men? Those little fellows are responsible. And you my dear Wildcat are one of them and you know it.

Area 51 was a Marsian thing. You enginerd it. You green guys landed there and after that you have attemted to take over our planet.

Just one q: how do you disguise your green complexion?

Standard CT tactic number 1: Take evasive action when targeted with a direct question.

How's about you answer Wildcat's question? The one this thread was started to address. You know. Just what do you really think happened on September 11, 2001?

 

[WildCat]

I don't know if [SIZE=-1]Khalid Shaikh Mohammed[/SIZE] is guilty or not. But it is common knowledge that most of the people at Gitmo are innocent. This fact certainly doesn't make him seem any guiltier to me.

Says the psychic perry Logan.

I was kind of hoping they'd all be charged with crimes or set free---you know, the whole habeus corpus thing. We can torture them after we've convicted them. Just a thought.

You seem to be mistaking prisoners taken during a war w/ criminals captured by police. In fact, except for specific circumstances it violates the Geneva Conventions to try POW's. Maybe you should start a thread about it in Politics. There's only been about 100 or so threads on this so far.