9/11 Truthers - Post Your Conspiracy Theory Here

[beachnut]

I wish I could do that. But, we simply don't know what happened that day. Well, we are sure about at least one thing and that is that the Gov't version, the official conspiracy theory. The one about 19 Mulim cokeheads equipped with boxcutters is false. There is simply no evidence for it.

I expect this is what brain dead CTers believe; you nailed it! The nut cases can not understand simple thugs taking lives.

Yes most CTers with not much education find it hard to believe the real story when they can make up idiot stories of beam weapons and remote control airplanes.

When will one CT idiot get the Pulitzer Prize? It has been five years and the idiots can not even make this thread theme come true. Not one will post a story worthy of a Pulitzer Prize. Lacking facts CT nut cases resort to talk. Just talk!

The priest of talk is David Ray Griffith. The man of science picks thermite as the CD tool, not ever used but he does so dream since he hates the war in Iraq; where was he when we lost 16,000 troops in Vietnam!; I give you Dr Jones against the war in Iraq so he makes up thermite. I must ask anyone who really is for war! Not one. Do not lie Dr Jones.

Or would Fetzer have an idea. Not really, he is just talk! Charlie Sheen? You messed up the cokeheads are you leaders of the CT movement!

Alex Jones? I have to say the CT world is fringe nut cases on the 9/11 topic.

Too bad anyone can fly planes into buildings and the CTers are incapable of rational thought. I thought the terrorist were dumb but we have other in the world as I present to you the dumber than the terrorist the 9/11 truth movement. Ironic and wrong. No facts and no idea what is going on. Fact is the passengers of flight 92 figured out 9/11 in minutes and the CTers have not in 5 years!

 

[volatile]

On the subject of "boxcutters", maybe it's worth repeating a misconception I had for a while as to what one actually is.

For at least a year after 9/11, I thought a box-cutter was one of these - which is actually a pretty harmless box-opener! I'd used one in my teenage years working at a supermarket, and really was surprised these guys had managed to commandeer an entire jumbo with such a puny "weapon". Box-cutter, y'see, isn't a term we use in the UK...

It transpires that a box-cutter is actually the far more vicious, far more dangerous pet weapon of the 1980s football hooligan - a Stanley knife.

You learn something every day!

 

[Elizabeth I]

Supina powers and total access to all archives would also be needed.

Supina?

 

[WildCat]

Surely there's some truthers out there who have actually put together a viable theory as to what happened?

Come on truthers, let's hear your theory. Because in the absence of a theory of your own, the accepted version wins by default.

It's been over 5 years...

 

[Oliver]

You know better than that, Oliver -- the box cutters were reported by passengers on the planes:

That's enough to start.

You´re right - i really should read the whole commission
report some day. Did they find these Boxcutters?

 

[R.Mackey]

You´re right - i really should read the whole commission report some day. Did they find these Boxcutters?

That, I don't know the answer to. I don't have any good resources for the debris recovery at any of the four crash sites, though somebody here might.

In the case of Flight 77 in particular, there is also the problem that any box cutter retrieved might have been in one of the offices. I have one where I work. It's hardly an unusual item. Thus, uniquely identifying it as being from the aircraft could be difficult.

 

[maccy]

On the subject of "boxcutters", maybe it's worth repeating a misconception I had for a while as to what one actually is.

For at least a year after 9/11, I thought a box-cutter was one of these - which is actually a pretty harmless box-opener! I'd used one in my teenage years working at a supermarket, and really was surprised these guys had managed to commandeer an entire jumbo with such a puny "weapon". Box-cutter, y'see, isn't a term we use in the UK...

It transpires that a box-cutter is actually the far more vicious, far more dangerous pet weapon of the 1980s football hooligan - a Stanley knife.

You learn something every day!

There's a good boxcutter thread here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59410

And if somebody starts laughing about plastic knives, send them here:

http://www.selfdefence.com/nfk.htm

And, in passing:

Pagan - completely unable to say what happened on 9/11, tries to pick holes in the official story.

All other truthers - no posts.

Truther score so far: 0

 

[Oliver]

There's a good boxcutter thread here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59410

And if somebody starts laughing about plastic knives, send them here:

http://www.selfdefence.com/nfk.htm
*snip*

Thanks for the links, Maccy. Gravy posted a pretty
good article about the hijacking in the Boxcutter
thread:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3919613.stmhttp://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59410

[Barbara Olson] reported that the flight had been hijacked, and the hijackers had knives and box cutters

So she´s the only one who reported it as far i see
it. If they didn´t find the physical evidence for her
statement, it´s pretty hard to convince the Twoofers™.

 

[PerryLogan]

The Alex Jones Version of 9/11

I'm here to present the Alex Jones Version of 9/11.

Ahem.

The secret ruling elite--who can live forever and who worship Moloch--acted through insiders in the Federal government. They openly created Al Qaeda, nurtured it, trained the hijackers, and planned 9/11, based on their own PNAC document (and, earlier, the Northwoods document). They loaded the towers with tons of explosives without anyone in "the City that Never Sleeps" noticing.

Despite all those clues, the job went smoothly. It fooled all the structural engineers and demolitions experts in the world. It fooled the seismologists, who swear there are no signs of explosions on that day.

(A few firemen heard the explosions. But firemen work for the government and should be ignored.)

The perps did everything they could to give the plan away. Gloablists are funny that way. They allowed news stories to come out about Osama bin Laden meeting with the CIA. They had breakfast in Washington on 9/11. They called a few random famous people to warn them against travel (that wacky elite!). They played the put options thing. They allowed tons of news stories about "prior knowledge" to come out in the mainstream press. They brought down WTC7 in a way that seems designed to draw attention. They even let one of their guys blab the whole thing on a PBS special.

Careless, crazy globalists! It's almost as if they were trying to leave evidence. But only Alex Jones and a few other alienated white guys who got on the web could figure it out.

Osama was a CIA agent, though he is now dead and on dry ice somewhere, awaiting Alex's decision to roll him out. The 9/11 hitchhikers were all stooges. The bad guys gassed the people on the planes and radioed them into the towers. Alex has tons of evidence for this, which he refuses to show us, pending a big movie deal. The elections are staged. Anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi. The government keeps giant honeycombed hives of toddlers drugged on lithium. The government did it.

The government did it.

The aftermath of 9/11 went precisely as Alex Jones predicted--except that we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq; we did not go under martial law; the economy did not go cashless and collapse; we were not all herded into compact cities and implanted with microchips; they did not confiscate our guns; they did not force us onto tollroads; we were not all run over by illegal immigrants and killed by vaccines; and there was not a single major domestic terror attack after 9/11.

The government did it. The government did it.

 

[R.Mackey]

So she´s the only one who reported it as far i see
it. If they didn´t find the physical evidence for her
statement, it´s pretty hard to convince the Twoofers™.

They'd just say it was planted, anyway. If they don't accept the existence of the aircraft, any debris coming from said aircraft is moot in their eyes.

From the thread that maccy so kindly resurrected, this post shows a box cutter used as an official exhibit in the Moussaoui trial. Not sure of the circumstances regarding its inclusion.

 

[TjW]

Supina?

Well, you see, there are those CTs who have been tokin' a bit and so are very relaxed on the couch in Mom's basement. They're supine. Then there's those CT's who are really blasted, unconscious on the floor. They're supina.

I suspect he is parroting "subpoena", but didn't understand what it was he heard.

 

[Oliver]

They'd just say it was planted, anyway. If they don't accept the existence of the aircraft, any debris coming from said aircraft is moot in their eyes.

From the thread that maccy so kindly resurrected, this post shows a box cutter used as an official exhibit in the Moussaoui trial. Not sure of the circumstances regarding its inclusion.

Yeah, it´s pretty hard to convince the daffy ones. But at
least we could tweak their noses with evidence.

njslim mentioned in this post:

The passenger stabbed on AA11 was Daniel Lewin , an Israeli-American
computer company founder. Lewin was a veteran of Israeli Army Special
Forces (Sayeret Matkal) was stabbed from behind by hijacker Satam Sequami
seated directly behind him. Still think "boxcutters" aren't lethal. Several
knives were recovered from wreckage of Flight 93, included is knife
concealed in cigarette lighter and "Leatherman" tool.

Maybe he remembers the source for the recovered Boxcutters.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Decision time, pagan. Keep making "hit 'n' run" posts like you have been, or state your theory. I've just posted this to you (but you have the option of stating your theory here. The format of your post should remain basically the same as I have suggested):

If you want to prove you're not a troll, start a topic.

If you want an honest, truth-seeking debate, start a topic. Here - I'll help you out:


Hello, my name is pagan. I joined this forum because I am interested in 9/11 conspiracy theories and I am skeptical of the "official version of events".

I learned about the "official version" by _____________________ [insert details as appropriate, such as "reading the NIST/FEMA/9/11 Commission Reports; reading prisonplanet.com; watching "Loose Change"; etc etc"].

The evidence that I have seen does not seem to add up to the story that says that 19 hijackers brought the world's most powerful country to its knees.

I am testing the theory that ______________________.

The strongest evidence towards this theory, in my opinion, is:

A) ___________________________ (Source: ______________)
B) ___________________________ (Source: ______________)
C) ___________________________ (Source: ______________)
etc.
[fill in the blanks with your choices, pagan.]

I wish to find out the truth, and if this evidence can be proved to be false or irrelevant, I will understand that I have been mistaken in thinking my theory and/or sources were correct.

Sincerely,
pagan.

Well, you see, there are those CTs who have been tokin' a bit and so are very relaxed on the couch in Mom's basement. They're supine. Then there's those CT's who are really blasted, unconscious on the floor. They're supina.

I suspect he is parroting "subpoena", but didn't understand what it was he heard.

Yep. I was thinking something similar.

Also, what are "supina powers"? "Court Summons to Produce Documents" with a cape and the ability to leap tall buildings with a single bound?

 

[The Doc]

The government did it.

The aftermath of 9/11 went precisely as Alex Jones predicted--except that we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq; we did not go under martial law; the economy did not go cashless and collapse; we were not all herded into compact cities and implanted with microchips; they did not confiscate our guns; they did not force us onto tollroads; we were not all run over by illegal immigrants and killed by vaccines; and there was not a single major domestic terror attack after 9/11.

The government did it. The government did it.

Haha! Nice Perry.

Although I believe you forgot the "nuclear exchanges" and "suitcase nukes" that were supposed to go off right after 9/11

 

[The Doc]

Orphina,

I think that template should become standard. Nicely done

 

[LashL]

On the subject of "boxcutters", maybe it's worth repeating a misconception I had for a while as to what one actually is.

For at least a year after 9/11, I thought a box-cutter was one of these - which is actually a pretty harmless box-opener! I'd used one in my teenage years working at a supermarket, and really was surprised these guys had managed to commandeer an entire jumbo with such a puny "weapon". Box-cutter, y'see, isn't a term we use in the UK...

It transpires that a box-cutter is actually the far more vicious, far more dangerous pet weapon of the 1980s football hooligan - a Stanley knife.

You learn something every day!

I wasn't familiar with the term "boxcutters" back then, either, by the way, as it is not a commonly used term here above the 49th parallel. I always called them Stanley knives or utility knives. But there is no question that they can be vicious and deadly weapons.

Here's another boxcutter:

I certainly wouldn't want to be on the business end of that.

 

[T.A.M.]

ya we called them carpet knives over here on the east coast of Canada.

TAM

 

[JimBenArm]

ya we called them carpet knives over here on the east coast of Canada.

TAM

I learn something every day here. I've never known them to be called anything else but boxcutters!

 

[LashL]

<snip>Decision time, pagan. Keep making "hit 'n' run" posts like you have been, or state your theory. I've just posted this to you (but you have the option of stating your theory here. The format of your post should remain basically the same as I have suggested):

Terrific format, that, orphia nay. It would be wonderful if any of the troofers would use it instead of posting the same old, tired nonsense repeatedly and jumping around from topic to topic (and then complaining that they have too many points to respond to!)

 

[njslim]

The term "Boxcutter" is probably a semantic error repeated by the news
media - most of whom are not technically sophisticated (they referrred to
all phone calls from the hijacked planes as "cell phone" when we know almost
all were from Air Phones). The correct term for the knives is tactical knives -
folding knives with blade of 2 1/2 - 3 1/2 in . Was incident several months
back where person in Atlanta was jumped by gang of teenagers who tried
to rob him. He defended himself with a "tactical Knife" of about 3 in -
he killed one attacker and wounded another before gang fled. Still think
these knives are harmless?