9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[yankee451]

He's actually studiously avoided answering the question ever since I first asked it way back in post 179.

Hey yankee451, If the aircraft N334AA and N612UA did not hit the WTC towers on September 11, 2001, what happened to the airframes and to the people who were aboard the flights? The people and the aircraft existed at 8:30 AM EST that day, but by 9:30 AM they were no more. What happened to them?

I see, so that means the lightly bent cladding and the gouged and sharply bend steel columns are consistent with the head on impact of a jet. I get it.

 

[yankee451]

Why would I be outraged about someone making up the dumbest lies lies, and mock the murder of thousands.

Who did your fantasy version of 9/11?

You can't grasp physics.

I was on active duty on 9/11 and find your claims to be false, and an insult to all Americans. You live in a fantasy world based on ignorance and hate of others, and those who died on 9/11.

Wipe your chin.

 

[yankee451]

Here you go a few of the thousands killed on 9/11, and you make up lies about missiles.

Vincent Paul Abate, 40, Brooklyn, N.Y., Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Laurence Christopher Abel, 37, New York City, Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Alona Abraham, 30, Ashdod, Israel, Passenger, United 175, World Trade Center.

William F. Abrahamson, 55, Westchester County, N.Y., Marsh&McLennan Companies, Inc., World Trade Center.

Richard Anthony Aceto, 42, Marsh&McLennan Companies, Inc., World Trade Center.

Heinrich Bernhard Ackermann, 38, Aon Corporation, World Trade Center.

Paul Acquaviva, 29, Glen Rock, N.J., Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Christian Adams, 37, Passenger, United 93, Shanksville, Pa.

Donald LaRoy Adams, 28, Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Lives ended by 19 failed humans who hated American, and you make up lies.


And here some at the end of the alphabet...

Zhe Zeng, 28, Bank of New York, World Trade Center.

Marc Scott Zeplin, 33, Westchester, N.Y., Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Jie Yao Justin Zhao, 27, New York City, CompuCom Systems, Inc., World Trade Center.

Yuguang Zheng, Passenger, American 77, Pentagon.

Ivelin Ziminski, 41, Tarrytown, N.Y., Marsh&McLennan Companies, Inc., World Trade Center.

Michael Joseph Zinzi, 37, Newfoundland, N.J., Marsh&McLennan Companies, Inc., World Trade Center.

Charles Alan Zion, 54, Greenwich, Conn., Cantor Fitzgerald, World Trade Center.

Julie Lynne Zipper, 44, Paramus, N.J., Sandler O'Neill visitor from SunGard Data Systems, Inc., World Trade Center.

Salvatore J. Zisa, 45, Hawthorne, N.J., Marsh&McLennan Companies, Inc., World Trade Center.

Prokopios Paul Zois, 46, Lynbrook, N.Y., Marsh&McLennan consultant from American Express, World Trade Center.

Joseph J. Zuccala, 54, Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y., Fuji Bank, Ltd., World Trade Center.

Andrew Steven Zucker, 27, Riverdale, N.Y., Harris Beach LLP, World Trade Center.

Igor Zukelman, 29, Fiduciary Trust Company International, World Trade Center.


Tell me, have you told all those who knew these people, their parents, family, kids, that you know the truth?

Did you try to confirm those who were killed before spreading the dumbest lie in history? You failed to prove the videos are fake - FAILED

Oh the horror!

How have you verified all of these stories? I think the're B.S., therefore I don't really worry about their fictional families. I'm in the book if they want to reach out to me.

Their emotional tales don't change the evidence that proves they're B.S.

 

[yankee451]

Liar

Until the media broadcast the cartoon plane flying behind the towers, followed by the fireball that erupted from the opposite side of the tower, no one was sure what happened, but most of the reports were that something other than a large jet struck. The truth hurts, but it will set you free.

 

[TJM]

Wow. So this means the steel wasn't bent sharply in a completely different direction than the mostly hollow aluminum wing was traveling.

Wow, no. It means that people will often respond to a sudden traumatic events with hyperbolic terms which aren't accurate descriptors.

Has nothing to do with your provably inaccurate photo analysis.

 

[Robin]

No, that's not my contention, and you know it.

How would I know that? You are not exactly forthcoming on this topic. "Pass through" was your expression.

Before it could cut the steel, it would cut the aluminum. That's my contention. My conclusion is that it was not struck from the front, as seen in the aluminum cladding that was not cut.

So are you saying that the column will not be affected at all until the aluminium cladding is "cut"?

Or will you at least concede that the column itself will start to compress almost as soon as the aluminium starts to compress?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Almost 20 years later and some people can still remember the lies that got the world into its current mess. You can go back to examining your navel now.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

I prefer clementines, thanks.

 

[curious cat]

Oh the horror!

How have you verified all of these stories? I think the're B.S., therefore I don't really worry about their fictional families. I'm in the book if they want to reach out to me.

Their emotional tales don't change the evidence that proves they're B.S.

I think this is getting out of hands. I was following with a mild amusement this clowns insulting members of this forum left right and centre, but there is no way to be amused by his outrageous attitude to the victims of this tragedy and their families. If there is a vote to ban him from this forum, you have both my hands up. I am sure such a decision would't cause any grief or damage.

 

[Axxman300]

Again, not shown live, and according to Evan Fairbanks himself it flew into the building, "...like a bad special effect."

You're right about the illusion part, according to this photo, the jet couldn't even slide like butter through the aluminum sheeting that covered the column.

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/WTC2_5th_column_from_left_center_right_with_circle.png[/qimg]

Here's the problem, Skippy, the aluminum sheet WAS CUT and later fell off.

 

[Robin]

Here's the problem, Skippy, the aluminum sheet WAS CUT and later fell off.


[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/W89yUZ1.jpg[/qimg]





[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/NIS9e5k.jpg[/qimg]

Different tower.

 

[yankee451]

You will do anything to avoid answering my question, won't you?

I could do it for real, but I want to find out what you think would happen.

You are saying that unless the aluminium cladding is sliced all the way through, including the parts around the sides, there won't be any damage to the steel square section?

(Edit: I can add a layer of fire retardant between my aluminium and steel if you like, just name the material)

Sure, why not. Please demonstrate using a wing and some steel box columns built to the same specifications as the WTC, and show me how the wing slices the steel without slicing the cladding. And then you can explain why only this one piece of cladding remained standing (even though the hole behind it was huge), albeit bent in the wrong direction, but the aluminum cladding to the left and right of this lone column, were sliced off. Don't mention the steel columns also bent sharply in the wrong direction.

 

[yankee451]

Here's the problem, Skippy, the aluminum sheet WAS CUT and later fell off.

 

[Robin]

Here is the full damage for the tower in question:

Here is a close up of the loose cladding:

It looks like there is a hole in the middle, but the sides are still intact.

That is consistent with it being hit from the front.

Not consistent with a cruise missile having hit it from the side.

 

[Robin]

You are still to explain what kind of a missile could do that. Don't forget the wing on the right side.

Something like this?

 

[Robin]

 

[yankee451]

Different tower.

Beat me to it.

 

[TJM]

Different tower.

Doesn't matter.

Every facet of the attack are an outrageous lie perpetrated by the US government spread through their puppet mainstream media. This is clearly evident from the fuzzy crops Steve has created from images released through mainstream media sources.

Entirely plausible.

 

[yankee451]

[qimg]https://robinsrevision.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/image-8.png?w=767[/qimg]

Yes. Something like a JASSM can explain it nicely. The warhead is designed for punching through hardened targets with or without detonating. At an angle of attack of somewhere around 15 degrees from parallel to the tower, the wing of the missile would hit first, which is why at the far left of both towers the cladding is only lightly damaged. The progressively worse damage to the columns is explained by the warhead penetrating deeper into the tower, but it loses energy as it penetrated so what began with gouged steel columns ends up only bending them as it slows down.

A rocket sled test center can put this conclusion to the test.

Something like this:
https://youtu.be/5_a1foRId6M

 

[yankee451]

Here is the full damage for the tower in question:

[qimg]https://robinsrevision.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/911holesouth.jpg?w=800[/qimg]

Here is a close up of the loose cladding:

[qimg]https://robinsrevision.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/image-4.png?w=567[/qimg]

It looks like there is a hole in the middle, but the sides are still intact.

That is consistent with it being hit from the front.

Not consistent with a cruise missile having hit it from the side.

Sure it is, it cut through the sides of both the steel and the cladding, but only through the face of the steel. The warhead pushed out the cladding from the inside as it passed behind it. I'm surprised it was damaged as little as it was, considering a 900 lb warhead just blew a big hole in the steel that cladding was covering.

 

[yankee451]

You are still to explain what kind of a missile could do that. Don't forget the wing on the right side.

Something like this?

[qimg]https://robinsrevision.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/image-5.png?w=706[/qimg]

I explain it in detail in this post.
https://911crashtest.org/9-11-truth-what-could-have-cut-the-plane-shaped-hole/

The first 9 columns from the left of both impact holes are enough to prove what didn't do it, and what probably did. However the right side is a bit different from the left.