9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[beachnut]

Hollow wings (w/66,000 lbs of fuel) meet hollow WTC, 95% air.

... I also understand mostly hollow aluminum wings don't slice through steel skyscrapers in the real world, ...

Hollow aircraft hits hollow WTC. You can't rent a solid steel concrete building, thus the WTC is 95 percent air. Whereas your lie of hollow wings are actually filled with 66,000 pounds of fuel going 590 mph. You can't grasp physics due to a complete lack of knowledge on the subject at hand.

Are the engines hollow? Have you studied the landing gear of aircraft for what they are made of?

It is ironic you used the term "real world" in your fantasy world of "missiles did it". Classic woo.

 

[smartcooky]

New physics, Dr. Strangelove.

YEE HAWWW!!!

 

[bknight]

[qimg]https://www.dropbox.com/s/pmqhn7gwbvoq11m/ridingthenuke.gif?raw=1[/qimg]
YEE HAWWW!!!

Yep.

 

[Leftus]

Occupants of what? The non existent planes? The empty offices? What do you mean?

There were flight manifests for those planes you say didn't exist. They had real peoples names on them. Friends and families are mourning those who are on those lists. Those people whose existence and memories you spit on to advance your theory. Pilots, flight crew, passengers. All GONE. What happened to them in your theory?

 

[abaddon]

Alas, the conclusion that planes, trains and automobiles were responsible, doesn't fit the evidence as well as the lateral impact of multiple cruise missiles does.

Really? Even when cruise missiles are not capable of the crap you propose? Somehow, cruise missile are capable of magic?

Off you go to Hogwarts to learn quidditch. That is just as plausible.

 

[beachnut]

ignoring murdered Americans, true colors come out (not the first time)

Occupants of what? The non existent planes? The empty offices? What do you mean?

Thousands murdered on 9/11 and you make up a sick fantasy.

Tell your grandkids you mock the murder of thousands.

 

[Deadie]

Those people whose existence and memories you spit on to advance your theory. Pilots, flight crew, passengers. All GONE. What happened to them in your theory?

He's gonna say:

1. They didn't exist.
2. They are conspirators and in on the plan in some capacity (crisis actors).
3. They were executed after their flights landed at secret airports shortly after takeoff. However, I do not know if he thinks those specific planes or particular flights ever existed in the first place.
4. Some combination of the above on a person to person basis.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

No. You saw it on television, therefore you assume thousands of people saw it. But the lightly damaged aluminum sheeting, and the sharply bent steel columns, say otherwise.

“Assume thousands of people?”

The population of the five boroughs in 2001 was a touch over eight million. Following the impact of the first airplane, there was time for more than a few of them, even those at work or otherwise not usually looking at the twin towers (plus tourists, students, workers and other non residents either on foot, on ships, or in vehicles) to be hard focused on the spot. Maybe you’ve never been to NYC; I lived there, and the towers were a common visual reference for a remarkable distance, that’s how tall they were.

But let’s be conservative and consider just those within a modest radius of, say, a half mile. I assume more than a million.

 

[BStrong]

Yank when are going to get around to answering this post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12951781&postcount=658

You remember, the one where I listed a series of U.S. military crimes that were reported by the participants involved?

The post that asked you about who the humans were that would have to be involved in your fatasy construct?

You are making the mistake of ****** science fiction writers by focusing on tech and ignoring the fact that every story is ultimately about humans, not technology.

You must come up with something more than "they" if you want to get into the big leagues.

 

[yankee451]

Thousands murdered on 9/11 and you make up a sick fantasy.

Tell your grandkids you mock the murder of thousands.

Be outraged! It's easier than thinking.

 

[Robin]

So what you are saying is, that if I take a steel square section and cut and bend a sheet of aluminium to snugly fit the length of steel on three sides and then I swing a big crowbar at the front side then I would not be able to dent the steel without severing the aluminium completely? Yes?

When you get a chance, yankee451...

 

[yankee451]

When you get a chance, yankee451...

Yeah, I saw it. Thanks.

 

[Robin]

Yeah, I saw it. Thanks.

Do you have a response?

 

[curious cat]

“Assume thousands of people?”

The population of the five boroughs in 2001 was a touch over eight million. Following the impact of the first airplane, there was time for more than a few of them, even those at work or otherwise not usually looking at the twin towers (plus tourists, students, workers and other non residents either on foot, on ships, or in vehicles) to be hard focused on the spot. Maybe you’ve never been to NYC; I lived there, and the towers were a common visual reference for a remarkable distance, that’s how tall they were.

But let’s be conservative and consider just those within a modest radius of, say, a half mile. I assume more than a million.

One example how people react to some kind of disaster is this quote from article about a Granville railway accident (Australia) in 1977:

"By 08:50, 1500 people lined the cutting. The crowd spilled onto the tracks. Some disguised themselves as rescue workers and climbed onto the unstable bridge wreckage for a closer look, risking the lives of trapped passengers and their rescuers beneath."

And that was just a railway accident with about 80 fatalities... 1,500 people just in the immediate vicinity of the scene! What happened in NY was a spectacle of a lifetime that nobody was likely to miss unless he had something vitally important to do at that moment. I think your estimate is quite reasonable.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Yup. I'm done with this thread, it will end up being merged with his other moderated thread and die the appropriate death it deserves.

I stopped by, gazed in awe (this nonsense is STILL being run up the flagpole nearly 20 years after?!), made my little comment and withdrew. Then shortly thereafter I came back, suggesting my self discipline needs some work.

Anyway, best wishes to 9/11 truthers; everybody needs a hobby.

 

[yankee451]

One example how people react to some kind of disaster is this quote from article about a Granville railway accident (Australia) in 1977:

"By 08:50, 1500 people lined the cutting. The crowd spilled onto the tracks. Some disguised themselves as rescue workers and climbed onto the unstable bridge wreckage for a closer look, risking the lives of trapped passengers and their rescuers beneath."

And that was just a railway accident with about 80 fatalities... 1,500 people just in the immediate vicinity of the scene! What happened in NY was a spectacle of a lifetime that nobody was likely to miss unless he had something vitally important to do at that moment. I think your estimate is quite reasonable.

I see. So this changes the evidence of the lateral impact of cruise missiles, how? Perhaps thousands of people did report seeing missiles, but why would the media tell us about it when they were selling us planes? Like all my questions you don't need to answer.

 

[yankee451]

I stopped by, gazed in awe (this nonsense is STILL being run up the flagpole nearly 20 years after?!), made my little comment and withdrew. Then shortly thereafter I came back, suggesting my self discipline needs some work.

Anyway, best wishes to 9/11 truthers; everybody needs a hobby.

Almost 20 years later and some people can still remember the lies that got the world into its current mess. You can go back to examining your navel now.

 

[yankee451]

Kill thousands in the towers? Not a problem. Kill a few hundred passengers and crew? We are not monsters.

Ignore the evidence? That's what we do.
~"Skeptics"

 

[Robin]

Ignore the evidence? That's what we do.
~"Skeptics"

You are doing a good job of ignoring my question which is directly about the evidence.

 

[Deadie]

I see. So this changes the evidence of the lateral impact of cruise missiles, how?

You do not have prima facie evidence. You have ad hoc speculation based on nothing more than your person interpretation of photographs.

Photographs I'm surprised you don't consider to be photoshopped or otherwise manipulated. Hell, what exactly IS your justification that those photos you use to argue your point are in any way legitimate in the first place, given that you claim video evidence not?