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[DGM]

Don't worry about it DGM. I know that being caught wrong when accusing someone of being a liar isn't really a big deal in your debunker world.

It really doesn't matter in this case. Because we are still waiting for any debunker here to address post #165 in any kind of relevant manner.

Maybe you should just back outta this one.

post #165

I was unaware of the ABC interview that she did say" fighter". I found the link and I do apologize for calling you a liar on that regard.

Now on to post #165. The whole thrust of the post is based on CIT's placement of Mr Paik. Mr Paik was actually inside the building so how is his (and CIT's ) interpretation in a different position relevant when compared to known physical evidence? (I know you won't except any physical evidence so why should I even try).

 

[Childlike Empress]

How do you know he was "inside the building"? You rely on the allegations of the discredited "John Farmer" aka "911files" aka "BCR" and ignore Paik's on-record testimonies obtained by the CMH and CIT.

Why?

 

[DGM]

Why not just post the link?

Anyway here you go DGM.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124266&page=3

Thanks, I found the link myself shortly before your post. I was going from her other interview where she refereed to it as a "military aircraft". Oh well, not the first time I was wrong, At least I can "man up" and admit it (very rare to nonexistent trait in a "truther")

 

[Algebra34]

I was unaware of the ABC interview that she did say" fighter". I found the link and I do apologize for calling you a liar on that regard.

Well thank you.

Now on to post #165. The whole thrust of the post is based on CIT's placement of Mr Paik. Mr Paik was actually inside the building so how is his (and CIT's ) interpretation in a different position relevant when compared to known physical evidence? (I know you won't except any physical evidence so why should I even try).

The whole thrust? I don't think so.

Known physical evidence?

WELL NOW! LETS SEE IT! GET BACK! A DEBUNKER IS ACTUALLY STEPPING UP!

OK let me calm down and get a seat. Sighhh

Ok I'm ready DGM.

WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING.

Hit us with da truth.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Thanks, I found the link myself shortly before your post. I was going from her other interview where she refereed to it as a "military aircraft". Oh well, not the first time I was wrong, At least I can "man up" and admit it (very rare to nonexistent trait in a "truther")

Ok, here's one: Apparently Paik was not interviewed by the CMH (while many of the other CIT witnesses were). I was wrong too.

 

[DGM]

How do you know he was "inside the building"? You rely on the allegations of the discredited "John Farmer" aka "911files" aka "BCR" and ignore Paik's on-record testimonies obtained by the CMH and CIT.

Why?

"Discredited" how? Paik does not actually say where he was (on tape) to CIT. (not that I'm aware off). Do you think his location would be relevant to his perspective?

 

[DGM]

Well thank you.

Your welcome

The whole thrust? I don't think so.

Known physical evidence?

WELL NOW! LETS SEE IT! GET BACK! A DEBUNKER IS ACTUALLY STEPPING UP!

OK let me calm down and get a seat. Sighhh

Ok I'm ready DGM.

WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING.

Hit us with da truth

Sure no problem. First what do you except for evidence?

You've been shown pictures of the airplane wreckage, DNA collecting procedures, damage to the building, radar tracks, so forth and so on.

What do you want me to show you?

 

[leftysergeant]

"Discredited" how? Paik does not actually say where he was (on tape) to CIT. (not that I'm aware off). Do you think his location would be relevant to his perspective?

DUH!

That is probably why they had him stand out of the street.

Where would you expect a shop owner to be at that time of the day?

 

[DGM]

Ok, here's one: Apparently Paik was not interviewed by the CMH (while many of the other CIT witnesses were). I was wrong too.

Refresh my memory, what is CMH?

Forgive me, it's Saturday night and I've had a few beers.

 

[Childlike Empress]

You could click on the link. "Center for Military History".

 

[Childlike Empress]

"Discredited" how? Paik does not actually say where he was (on tape) to CIT. (not that I'm aware off). Do you think his location would be relevant to his perspective?

Watch his CIT testimony first. Tell me how this CAN be manipulated. What does he say in the "omitted" part (CIT are accused of not publishing his "whole" testimony). Did he say "oh, and what i just told you is wrong, just kidding, in fact the plane flew behind the Antenna you see behind my back"?

 

[DGM]

You could click on the link. "Center for Military History".

Ah, thanks now I remember (short term memory thing from the 70's ).

Back to Mr Farmers "credibility".

 

[triforcharity]

Radar? You mean the one the ATC was following when they thought it was a fighter jet? What transponder code?

Ah yes, the fighter jet BS.

The quote was "we thought it was a military plane. You don't fly a 757 that way. It's unsafe."

Safety was not a single concern for Hani Hanjour.

Nice take out of context, and quotemined statement though.


ETA: I was also unaware of the other quote. So, I was wrong about that. But, why did she THINK it was a fighter??

 

[The Big Dog]

How do you know he was "inside the building"? You rely on the allegations of the discredited "John Farmer" aka "911files" aka "BCR" and ignore Paik's on-record testimonies obtained by the CMH and CIT.

Why?

Tsk tsk tsk. Um, did I miss something, did shakey and fatty the invested fraudsters actually say where he was?

Gotta ask again (no, not where the CIT impossible flight path calcs are, no not where the original god damn videos are) a simpler question:

Say, CE, where was Paik anyway when he saw the plane?

Keep dipping and dodging CE, I've already predicted that I will be asking this question in a font as large as the moon by the time you get through ducking it.

 

[Thunder]

they thought it was a military plane because it was being piloted haphazardly, not because it looked like a military plane or because they had any other reason to think it was a military plane. it was all about the crazy piloting.

 

[DGM]

Watch his CIT testimony first. Tell me how this CAN be manipulated. What does he say in the "omitted" part (CIT are accused of not publishing his "whole" testimony). Did he say "oh, and what i just told you is wrong, just kidding, in fact the plane flew behind the Antenna you see behind my back"?

First I don't think Mr Farmer (or Paik) claimed it flew on the opposite side of the antenna. You stated that Mr Farmer has been "discredited", how so? He states that he talked to both Paik brothers and considering the fact that I'm very sure (due to pictures he posted) he's been to that area, why should I think he's lying?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Ah, thanks now I remember (short term memory thing from the 70's ).

Back to Mr Farmers "credibility".

Read this thread for a start. As i said, he relies on our trust. He doesn't publish his material (and even pretends to be proud of "protecting" the witnesses). This is completely worthless compared to what CIT have obtained. Not a single CIT witness has complained about being misrepresented by them, not a single one has filed any charges against them, it's just that some of them aren't willing to talk about their experiences any more after they understood what it implies.

Accusing Craig Ranke of asking leading questions is more than laughable. He did a fine job and stayed inside the rules of doing investigative journalism. Remember how Morin treated him like an idiot after he asked for clarification?

"Now this is the Navy Annex, this is Columbia Pike and here's a fence. I was behind the fence.".

 

[Childlike Empress]

First I don't think Mr Farmer (or Paik) claimed it flew on the opposite side of the antenna. You stated that Mr Farmer has been "discredited", how so? He states that he talked to both Paik brothers and considering the fact that I'm very sure (due to pictures he posted) he's been to that area, why should I think he's lying?

It HAS to be on the opposite side of the Antenna to match the data.

 

[triforcharity]

Where's the raw film that CIT promised to release?

 

[The Big Dog]

Not a single CIT witness has complained about being misrepresented by them, not a single one has filed any charges against them, it's just that some of them aren't willing to talk about their experiences any more after they understood what it implies.

I'm sorry, did someone file charges against Farmer, did Paik refuse to talk to Farmer? Did Shakey release his raw videos yet?

(clears throat)

Say, CE, where was Paik anyway when he saw the plane?
/I used hilite, I don't think that the laser necessary to write on the moon will be ready for quite awhile.