4th August - epilogue - 19th September - prediction

[Nyarlathotep]

Therefore, the evidence from the intelligence community suggests that such an attack was immenent, and, thank Gaia, they took the appropriate action to stop it.

What evidence? The heightened state of alert was because they found three year old surveillance photos of certain targets in the lap-top of an Al Qaida leader. They heightened the state of alert, yes, but it is a far cry to say from that that an attack was immanent (many people have suggested that the alert was more politically motivated than anything, but that's a discussion for the politics board). I said it before and I'll say it again, you have a talent for exaggeration.

 

[CFLarsen]

Very slippery. No, you didn't predict something was "being planned."

We see the first step of Lucianarchy-spinning. Watch his wordings very carefully.

 

[Mercutio]

I think a few of you are getting a little hysterical about all this.

I predicted that an attack by terrorists against Western targets was being planned for the 4th August.

Due to the action of the intelligence community, and everyone knows the positive action of heightened state of alert which was imposed over the 4th, such an attack would have been foiled.

Therefore, the evidence from the intelligence community suggests that such an attack was immenent, and, thank Gaia, they took the appropriate action to stop it.

Had they been as skeptical as some of the cynics here, perhaps we would be many lives short today. Thankfully, they are not cynics.

It seems to me that the news reports regarding this three-year-old information did narrow the alert window down...but not to the 4th. They suspected that something will happen, perhaps during August or early September (thus, the republican convention was a possibility, as were several other events).

It seems to me that they have not stepped down the security yet, and the 4th has passed...or might the increased security have nothing whatsoever to do with your prediction?

 

[Maledict]

I predicted that an attack by terrorists against Western targets was being planned for the 4th August.

Due to the action of the intelligence community, and everyone knows the positive action of heightened state of alert which was imposed over the 4th, such an attack would have been foiled.

Therefore, the evidence from the intelligence community suggests that such an attack was immenent, and, thank Gaia, they took the appropriate action to stop it.

And what did I say before?

Originally posted by me earlier
His excuse would probably be:

"The parties in the prediction took my advice - hense, the tradgedy was avoided"

Hot dang, I must be psychic.

Luci, you're just as predictable and deluded as always.

 

[Lucianarchy]

ken, please calm down.

It is highly unlikely that the federal goverment reviews the JREF website looking for hints to the next terrorist attack (let alone the British goverment).

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Thank you for calming Ken down. Althoug I do understand why some people are getting hysterical over such a significant correlation of events.

 

[CFLarsen]

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Do tell us. Surprise us. What do you know about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence?

Thank you for calming Ken down. Althoug I do understand why some people are getting hysterical over such a significant correlation of events.

Instead of boosting this false claim, why don't you answer some of the questions?

 

[alfaniner]

If something had happened, I might have said "OK, I'll give you that one. Lucky guess. Now do it again." As nothing has happened at all, (either time), and the weaseling to explain why approaches infinity, I say "blah, blah, blah."

 

[Maledict]

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Yup, sure - they use their infinite resources to scan vague phrophesies / predictions on internet bulletin boards in an attempt to catch terrorist susepcts which aren't even mentioned on the prediction at all.

Can someone say Non-sequitor?

Thank you for calming Ken down. Althoug I do understand why some people are getting hysterical over such a significant correlation of events.

Oh no! Our world view has been shattered by.......post-hoc reasoning...

 

[Jeff Corey]

Althoug I do understand why some people are getting hysterical over such a significant correlation of events.

A significant negative correlation, you mean.

 

[Anders]

I think a few of you are getting a little hysterical about all this.

I predicted that an attack by terrorists against Western targets was being planned for the 4th August.

Due to the action of the intelligence community, and everyone knows the positive action of heightened state of alert which was imposed over the 4th, such an attack would have been foiled.

U don't know when the terrorist planned to implement the alleged attack, now, do you? The Brittish Police and Intelligence Service didn't act on the same day as the terrorist where on their way to Heathrow or Luton, the terrorists were not apprehended Ã_n their cars with together with weapons and explosives. They were apprehended in their homes, or in cars near their homes.

Well, U might have access to reports form MI5 that we don't?

Therefore, the evidence from the intelligence community suggests that such an attack was immenent, and, thank Gaia, they took the appropriate action to stop it.

Nothing in the reporting said that an attack was immenent. The men arrested was arrested under the Terrorism Act 2000. Hundreds of people have been arrested under that act, 15 has been convicted. My guess, not a prediction, no, not in any way, just a guess, is that most of these men will be released within a few days and even more of them in a couple of weeks.

You're reasoning has logical holes that you could run trucks through.

Had they been as skeptical as some of the cynics here, perhaps we would be many lives short today. Thankfully, they are not cynics.

The police works with evidence, ever seen C.S.I on the telly? The don't believe, they know, or they don't, it's as simple as that.

The arrests were done after the gathering of evidence, not after consulting the tarot cards!

 

[Upchurch]

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Do you believe they monitor this forum board for hints about terrorist activities? Is there reason to think so?

 

[Darat]

Doubt over airport 'terror plot'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3537462.stm

(Highlight by me.)
...snip....

'Constantly alert'

The Home Office said it would not comment on the details of intelligence, but confirmed that there had not been a specific threat.

A spokeswoman said: "If there had been a specific, credible threat then we would let the public know."

Leader of the Commons Peter Hain also denied there was a "specific threat" but claimed the government was "constantly alert".

"We know that al-Qaeda networks have been active in Britain," he told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme.

While refusing to comment on specific intelligence, he added: "What you are seeing here is the result of constant surveillance, constant intelligence."

...snip...

(Edited for ...snips... )

 

[Ed]

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Luci, you are Grenarding again. He would regularly allude in subtle terms how he was "in the know". Very pathetic.

 

[Lucianarchy]

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[CFLarsen]

Even if was allowed to confirm this, you wouldn't believe me.

Who is denying you posting it here?

 

[Nyarlathotep]

I think you would be surprised about how the FBI/CIA/MI5 gain some of their intelligence.

Thank you for calming Ken down. Althoug I do understand why some people are getting hysterical over such a significant correlation of events.

Significant correlation of events?



Oh wait, you're serious.

 

[Mercutio]

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Why did you edit this away?

 

[Anders]

Far be it for me to defend silly predictions, but you're being ludicrous here. Are you actually suggesting that the future is laid down and that there is nothing we can do to prevent it happening?

Besides, the evidence suggests that when people do, say, dream of a future event, they can take actions to prevent it happening; especially so if it is an event which would have happened to them.

Oh please, what evidence? You know, reports, interviews, tests, etc.

Edited to add these tags
[believer_mode]
Could it be that Luci predicted ONE (1) future, out of an infinity of futures, but, another future took place instead?
[/believer_mode]

 

[Upchurch]

Actually, I'd like to retract something I said earlier.

Given that a certain government employee probably viewed the JREF forum from his Pentagon office and given that it is highly likely that his internet usage was probably monitored (more so than in your average employer/employee situation), it probably is likely that the U.S. government does monitor this board, or did in the past.

I still doubt that they are looking for clues to terrorist activity here and, even if they were, there really wasn't enough information in Luci's premonition to be of any use.

 

[Anders]

quote:
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Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Even if was allowed to confirm this, you wouldn't believe me.
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Ok, I dont' belive much about what U put on this board, but I might belive this, perhaps!

Just kidding, I wouldn't!

It is so hard to take this whole affair seriously! But is real fun, more fun than to study for an exam in molecular biology, which I should be doing right now!