I have heard it mentioned on many an occasion that one of the reasons the US/UK went into Iraq (especially) and Afghanistan was natural resources - mainly oil in the case of Iraq. Some CTs claim that this is the main reason that the US Government allowed/engineered the Sep 11 attacks.
So given...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/iraqi-auction-disproves-war-for-oil-thesis/story-e6frg6zo-1225811867893
The main winners in the auction were:
Russia's Lukoil and Gazprom
Malaysia's Petronas
Royal Dutch Shell
Norway's Statoil
China's National Petroleum Corp.
Angola's Sonangol.
I was surprised not to see this mentioned (cue someone with a link to make me look like an idiot). Front page of today's Guardian was a story about a large rise in birth defects and cancers in children in Fallujah...
'Soldier's mother wants Tony Blair to answer for Iraq war'
Is she "pissing on the grave of her son"?
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now with Obama in office, the amount of soldiers has been decreasing.
But the question is, what now with Iraq?
Staying there until there is a stability which may never come?
replacing us soldiers with UN peacekeepers, which would lead to Bosnia x10?
immediate withdrawal with the middle east...
This thread is intended to focus on the question I originally posted here.
In short: I've been led to believe that a reason for going to war might be, that certain politically influential individuals benefit financially from it. Gumboot asked me to provide sources from which I've derived this...
I was cautiously optimistic in 2003 when the Iraq War began. I'm not much of a fan of war, unless you count as a subject for movies and games. The real variety are very depressing. However, I'm a big fan of democracy, and I saw an opportunity to take a dictatorship and create a democracy. In...
I say, Obama's plan to keep 50,000 in there after 2010 sounds good. Each year after that we could withdraw 10,000 or 5,000 more.
Bush may have gotten us into this mess, but if we do this right we can get out of Iraq with a stable government and military able to handle things without us.
Why isn't governments doing a War on War instead of a war on terror. With current statistics of 2000 deaths by terror attack per year, it would take terrorists 500 years to kill as many as Iraq lost in 5 years.
The country lost 4% of its population. In comparison with the biggest terrorist act...
The Iraqi Parliament has approved the Status of Force Agreement negotiated over the last year by the Maliki and Bush administrations, meaning that all coalition troops will be out of Iraq by the end of 2011 at the latest. Story here...
This same sentiment has not really changed in kind, merely in degree, since Saddam left Baghdad.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/22/AR2008102203194.html
Tribal warfare, same as it ever was.
The article goes on to cover various topics and issues, to include how...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081015/ts_nm/us_iraq;_ylt=AmkLnCk5k5.MvFOnGJcKTK9Z.3QA
I wonder if McCain and Palin will accuse Bush of "waiving the white flag of surrender" and accuse them of wanting to "cut and run".
Honestly, how likely is it that it is going to be forgotten?
What appears to be forgotten are the millions of lives that have been destroyed in the Middle East since, for no good reason, using the victims of 911 as an excuse.
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That's effective; I'd love to see the McCain campaign pick it up and use it as an official campaign ad. Stick around to the end; he's not just talking the talk.
You know, there's being stubborn, and then there's mulishness. Obama seems unable to admit he made a mistake:
He acknowledges that lives have been saved, and yet he still would not vote for it? Why does Barack Obama hate the Iraqi people?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/world/middleeast/02anbar.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
And none of this would have happened had we done what Obama proposed back in January 2007.
Instead, Iraq would now be in utter chaos.
Is that the type of *change* Obama will bring?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article4276486.ece
But Obama says we've lost in Iraq. Talk about being out of touch with reality.
He was wrong about the war 6 years ago. And he's still wrong.
Okay, I keep hearing from Obama about how he's "opposed the war from the beginning".
That's all well and good, but what did he do to show his disapproval?
Did he speak out? Did he go to rallies and protests? Did he petition his representatives?
There you have it - now we can settle this topic once and for all - it's official: The War in Iraq is, besides the "Unfriendly Neighborhood Aspect for Israel", mostly about Oil:
[URL="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06272008/watch3.html"]
Republican-minded attempts to attack the Messenger...
I have a few questions for Obama, and they don't have anything to do with what religion his dad is, or if he puts his hand over his heart during the pledge:
1. If you are against the War in Iraq, why did you repeatedly vote for more funding of that war?
2. Why did you vote to re-authorize the...
Just as Brian Williams (NBC) on the ground in Afghanistan was about to break this breaking story yesterday afternoon, he was intrerrupted by more breaking news by Tom Brokaw (NBC News-NY) that Tim Russert suddenly died. The rest of the news cycle concerned itself with Tim's sad and tragically...
Correct. We've expected this for some time.
Say what?
Reality check.
(1) The basic pay is $16,000 per year, compare that with the pay at McDonalds or WalMart with much less risk overall.
(2) Active recruits may be eligible for up to $40,000 combination of bonuses.
Now, if the basic...
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