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Proving the Aurora Theater Shooting's official story false

skepticidal said:
A "lengthy and thorough search and analysis brings up" numerous statements describing Holmes with brown hair after July 1.

A red-light camera issued Holmes a ticket and included a photo of Holmes with brown hair, also after July 1.

Holmes visited the lab in which he worked on the Anshutz Medical Campus each week-day between July 1 and July 11, and nobody described witnessing him with orange hair.

Is any of this an indication that Holmes "probably" had brown hair on July 1?
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You have heard of wigs and hair die? It's far from impossible that his hair color changed more than once.
 
Let me see if I understand the argument: Because there were a few things that were odd about a guy walking into a theater and killing a bunch of people, the "official story" is false?
 
aggle-rithm said:
Let me see if I understand the argument: Because there were a few things that were odd about a guy walking into a theater and killing a bunch of people, the "official story" is false?
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I don't even think that's been established, to be honest.
Some people were confused about some events that they witnessed while being shot at and gave contradictory accounts.
Therefore... :confused:

Not sure where this was supposed to lead.
 
I saw this story and wondered why the person in the picture looked familiar.

The University Police Department declined to release the name of the stabbing victim, who was treated at UF Health Shands Hospital after being attacked by 28-year-old Michael Cravey.

Police found Cravey hours later in the Butler Plaza parking lot, where he was shot and killed by a Gainesville Police Department officer after Cravey reportedly charged the officer with a raised hatchet.

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Michael Cravey used the alias Thomas Brinkley on social media to espouse conspiracy theories involving Aurora, Colo., mass shooting suspect James Holmes. In several Youtube videos, Cravey debated incidents surrounding the Aurora theater shooting and said he was at the center of a conspiracy theory involving Holmes.
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More @ http://www.ocala.com/article/201403...ve-for-UF-stabbing-incident-remains-a-mystery
 
freud said:
I saw this story and wondered why the person in the picture looked familiar.
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The University Police Department declined to release the name of the stabbing victim, who was treated at UF Health Shands Hospital after being attacked by 28-year-old Michael Cravey.

Police found Cravey hours later in the Butler Plaza parking lot, where he was shot and killed by a Gainesville Police Department officer after Cravey reportedly charged the officer with a raised hatchet.

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Michael Cravey used the alias Thomas Brinkley on social media to espouse conspiracy theories involving Aurora, Colo., mass shooting suspect James Holmes. In several Youtube videos, Cravey debated incidents surrounding the Aurora theater shooting and said he was at the center of a conspiracy theory involving Holmes.
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More @ http://www.ocala.com/article/201403...ve-for-UF-stabbing-incident-remains-a-mystery
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Wow. Isn't that the same guy- "Neveos"- who started this thread?
Also from that article:
Cravey's brother Nicholas Cravey said in an email Tuesday that his brother's actions on Monday were a mystery to him.

"I believe the fear and despair I feel right now for his death is something he felt for people suffering from tragic events across the world," he said. "The reasons for his actions yesterday are a complete mystery to me. I will not stop investigating until I know."

Nicholas Cravey said his brother was concerned about the state of the economy and governmental affairs.

"My brother was really smart," he said. "It will take me a long time, if ever, for me to understand. I am upset I do not have him with me to help me understand."
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Nicholas, there's nothing to investigate. Your brother was mentally ill- no mystery there. Please don't follow him down that rabbit hole.
 
I wish I could say that I'm surprised, but he was obviously an extremely troubled individual who was in desperate need of some help.
The police might want to take a look at his Youtube channel and see if they can find anyone else with a similar outlook before they do something equally damaging.
 
And in the comments:

Michael was a popular "truther" on YT, and was also responsible for uncovering the lies behind the aroura cinema shootings in Col. He said he was being followed and had death threats towards the end of his life.. As you can see, the media is just sweeping him under the rug, accusing him of being a conspiracy nut.. He was very concerned about corruption in govt. and wanted to make a lot of changes in this F'd up world...But they finally 86'd him.. Holy crap! There is definetly foul play on this one..crazy... A very smart, and decent person for sure.. Thx, Lou!
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Yes folks, it was the TPTB finally silencing him ...
 
I consider most of these CT follower types to be of the harmless crank variety, but in a large enough population it's possible to have a few outright nuts in that demographic.

Sad for his family, somebody loved the kid once, and sad for his victim as well.
 
turingtest said:
Wow. Isn't that the same guy- "Neveos"- who started this thread?

Also from that article:





Nicholas, there's nothing to investigate. Your brother was mentally ill- no mystery there. Please don't follow him down that rabbit hole.
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It was indeed him. He started this thread then posted to his YouTube channel claiming he had "pwnd" the JREF members by presenting his odd CT.

I can't find it now, round about June26 I posted links to his YT Channel.
Bizarre and disturbing to say the least.
He recorded his Google Hangout live videos where a handful of paranoid kids would ask for his opinions on world matters. Needless to say they were all nonsense.

In some videos he was watching a news channel, always laughing at their "lies"

He also stated in this thread that he had mental illnesses but refused to take his medication.

Let's all not forget the "heart again gun" he claimed TPTB shot him with whilst he was sleeping.

Sad thing is, after I and others read his rants and saw his videos, many comments were made along the lines of "This will not end well"

ETA: Having trouble with searching forum so apologies for lack of links.
 
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AtomicDog said:
You ought to see the folks at Godlike mourn their Fallen Warrior.
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I just went through some of their main thread there about his death and one unusual coincidence was highlighted.
Gainsville Police Department make a monthly Youtube video. It's produced by one Nicholas Cravey, the brother of Thomas.
He works for the people that shot his brother.
I thought that they'd jump on that, but it's been largely ignored.

I did find one unfortunately prophetic post on his "Aurora was all about me" thread:
TraderRob said:
This individual is obviously highly intelligent... but he also has serious mental issues. I am willing to get we are going to hear about this guy someday -- in the mainstream news.

If anyone knows him, please tell him to chill out... go fishing or do whatever it takes to get his mind off of politics and the current situation, and chill out -- before he does something stupid.
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This is the town I live in, and I knew the guy indirectly. He has been a bit of a nutcase for a while. My roommate knew him pretty well and said he was completely bonkers. Had no idea he posted here. Small world we live in.
 
ComfySlippers said:
It was indeed him. He started this thread then posted to his YouTube channel claiming he had "pwnd" the JREF members by presenting his odd CT.

I can't find it now, round about June26 I posted links to his YT Channel.
Bizarre and disturbing to say the least.
He recorded his Google Hangout live videos where a handful of paranoid kids would ask for his opinions on world matters. Needless to say they were all nonsense.

In some videos he was watching a news channel, always laughing at their "lies"

He also stated in this thread that he had mental illnesses but refused to take his medication.

Let's all not forget the "heart again gun" he claimed TPTB shot him with whilst he was sleeping.

Sad thing is, after I and others read his rants and saw his videos, many comments were made along the lines of "This will not end well"

ETA: Having trouble with searching forum so apologies for lack of links.
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Here, here, and here, if anybody's interested.

(This video, from your post #687, is the money shot, I think.)
 
Again I can't find a link, I'm slacking...

There is a WordPress blog by someone who states that the person under discussion:

Copied his ideas.
Used his drawings/diagrams without permission.
Passed them off as being his own research/creations.
Added embellishments to spice up his personal CT.
Was seeking attention.

The blogger was obviously another CT nut but was quite peeved that his paranoid ideas had been stolen.

Of interest in that blog is comments from people who knew the guy, and the things he did in real life.
Also comments from people who first hand witnessed the event.
His history, in RL, is very dodgy.

I'll try to find the blog and ETA if I succeed.

It's a sad story of someone who had mental issues.
The outcome was predicted in this very thread.
Whilst dismissing woo-mongers, I'd never wish for them to go so bat-poo that they get shot.

ETA 1: Thanks for the post reference turingtest, I seem to be search-unabled atm.
 
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I have to say that anyone who read this thread or watched his videos had to see this coming in one form or another. I feel awful that it was allowed to get to this point. Mental illness is no joke, and there is often a fine line between silly ideas and sickness. Sad.
 
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