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Proving the Aurora Theater Shooting's official story false

I've read through the entirety of motions and other court docs recently made available in the Holmes case. The 2 points I wish to make are...

1.
...just after his arrest Holmes asked police officers, "How do I get a lawyer?" Later he specifically invoked the 6th Amendment, telling officers he was guaranteed legal representation.

Taken from...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-20130605,0,661221.story
...although that article includes numerous lies that can't reasonably be considered mistakes.

Holmes specifically used the phrase "Sixth amendment right" very soon after arriving at the jail. I find that odd, juxtaposed with the other accounts of his behavior at the time.

Even considering his request and protections under the law, the enforcers of the law and guys who had nothing to cover-up admitted that they engaged in acts that could be seen as a conspiracy to prevent Holmes having any contact with the outside world for 24 hours. Attempts by family members and public defenders to contact Holmes were met with lies about his wishes and his whereabouts. The public defenders were, for a time traveling between detention facilities in efforts to even locate him. They stated that the experience for them was unprecedented.

2.
on July 1, a video camera captured Holmes as he bought a scope, a mount and some inert ammunition at a Colorado gun store, Beggs ( supervisory agent Steve Beggs of the ATF ) said.

In the video, Beggs said, Holmes' hair is dyed bright orange.

Taken from...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/justice/colorado-theater-shooting

It seems this, Beggs character is quite the obvious conspirator. His testimony that the video he observed ( and neither the public nor even his defense team will ever see ) showed Holmes making purchases at the gun store. He adds that, Holmes had orange hair at the time. That is a disgusting lie.

When reviewing the motions, I discovered that this Beggs character likely had more lies to tell as the defense was forced to object more than once to his flow of unrelated details deemed irrelevant to the case.​

And, considering the recent report by Dan Oates that 47 DNA samples in ( exclusively ) sexual assault cases had been destroyed in Aurora people still wonder why we smell conspiracy in the Holmes case?

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A quick Google for Holmes arrest picture brings up a mugshot with bright orange hair. Where's the disgusting lie?
 
And, considering the recent report by Dan Oates that 47 DNA samples in ( exclusively ) sexual assault cases had been destroyed in Aurora people still wonder why we smell conspiracy in the Holmes case?

Paranoia induced by an addiction to Alex Jones?

You've not mentioned the fire yet btw.... 3,2,1...
 
First, what reason would I have to not help someone who's crazy? If you're wondering whether I would support the ideas of a crazy person, I might. It depends.
I actually agree with you here. You should support ideas based on their merits, not on the people making them.

This, however, I don't quite get:
And, considering the recent report by Dan Oates that 47 DNA samples in ( exclusively ) sexual assault cases had been destroyed in Aurora people still wonder why we smell conspiracy in the Holmes case?
No, as a matter of fact I don't see how a loss of DNA evidence has anything to do with a shooting at a theatre.

ETA: oh, and sorry, but was that huge picture relevant to the topic somehow :confused:?
 
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A quick Google for Holmes arrest picture brings up a mugshot with bright orange hair. Where's the disgusting lie?

A "lengthy and thorough search and analysis brings up" numerous statements describing Holmes with brown hair after July 1.

A red-light camera issued Holmes a ticket and included a photo of Holmes with brown hair, also after July 1.

Holmes visited the lab in which he worked on the Anshutz Medical Campus each week-day between July 1 and July 11, and nobody described witnessing him with orange hair.

Is any of this an indication that Holmes "probably" had brown hair on July 1?
 
I actually agree with you here. You should support ideas based on their merits, not on the people making them.

This, however, I don't quite get:
No, as a matter of fact I don't see how a loss of DNA evidence has anything to do with a shooting at a theatre.

ETA: oh, and sorry, but was that huge picture relevant to the topic somehow :confused:?

Are you asking whether "destruction" of evidence occurring in the same location where some of the Holmes case evidence is stored would be admissible as evidence in the Holmes trial if any of the Holmes evidence is misplaced or "destroyed?" I think it would.

I agree with you that "destruction" "of DNA evidence has" nothing "to do with a shooting at a theatre." But, I do think that destruction of evidence in sexual assault cases has something to do with destruction of evidence in a "loss of" life case.
 
Holmes visited the lab in which he worked on the Anshutz Medical Campus each week-day between July 1 and July 11, and nobody described witnessing him with orange hair.
Maybe they didn't describe it because they didn't think it was a big deal. Is it so strange to see people around a university with brightly-dyed hair? I live near a large university and I see this almost every day.
 
Yet another "ridiculously stupid conspirators" argument.

"Yes, let's conspire to kill a lot of people at a theater/stage a massacre with crisis actors/build a giant hologram of a theatre on Venus and have reptiles mind control people into thinking there was a massacre! All we need is a huge monetary investment and a way to silence the tens of thousands of people who will be involved or affected! What could possibly go wrong:)?

...oh damn. We got the hair colour wrong on the guy we framed."


Yeah. Or maybe, just maybe, as we've already gone through in this thread, people can look different from picture to picture.
 
"Jaq" wants to know!

Are you asking whether "destruction" of evidence occurring in the same location where some of the Holmes case evidence is stored would be admissible as evidence in the Holmes trial if any of the Holmes evidence is misplaced or "destroyed?" I think it would.

Has any of the Holmes case evidence been misplaced? I hadn't heard that yet. Links please.

I agree with you that "destruction" "of DNA evidence has" nothing "to do with a shooting at a theatre." But, I do think that destruction of evidence in sexual assault cases has something to do with destruction of evidence in a "loss of" life case.

So are you suggesting that the Aurora police department is unable to practice the compartmentalization of information that is suggested for most alleged CTs?
 
I thought Holmes had committed a federal crime, and would be tried outside of Colorado. Anyone know the actual details for his court case to correct me? I'm not seeing a fair trial happening in Arapahoe County, either way.
 
I thought Holmes had committed a federal crime, and would be tried outside of Colorado. Anyone know the actual details for his court case to correct me? I'm not seeing a fair trial happening in Arapahoe County, either way.

Jared Loughner was tried in federal court here in Tucson about a half mile from where I type this.
 
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is scheduled to be tried right here in Boston.

I think it's rare when they are not tried in the same jurisdiction.

Agreed. They did bring in a judge from California but thats because the judge he killed was known by all the judges here and they had to recuse themselves.
 
Jared was a federal case because he tried to assassinate an elected federal official. Holmes is not a federal case because he just shot randoms.
 
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is scheduled to be tried right here in Boston.

I think it's rare when they are not tried in the same jurisdiction.

For state crimes or federal, the trial will be held in the jurisdiction where the crime was committed, unless the attorneys for prosecution or defense (most commonly defense) move for a change of venue because they assert that they can't select an impartial jury in the original jurisdiction, and the judge agrees. Given the nationwide news coverage of the theater shooting, I'm not sure finding an impartial jury would be any easier outside of Aurora.

AFIK, no federal charges have been made in the theater shooting. In any event, the local DA is proceding with state murder and other charges.
 
Jared was a federal case because he tried to assassinate an elected federal official. Holmes is not a federal case because he just shot randoms.

The case could eventually be transferred to a federal court, but Oates said authorities were leaning towards a state prosecution.

They don't elaborate why.

link
 
Here we go, this is what I couldn't find earlier:

http://youtu.be/0Fjn7-MfIqc?t=40m10s


ETA:
If you watch from when the link starts, (prior to this he is laughing at a news channel which he seems to have on 24/7), and after the little racist comment, it gets quite interesting.

Its a rare glimpse, accompanied by video, of how a CT mind works.
Obviously he has other issues but its quite fascinating.

He says "Lets check the forums" which, with the overuse of the term "false flag", is obviously Infowars.

He genuinely believes he is reading real news stories whilst laughing at the news channel on his TV.

He often stumbles upon words and phrases he doesn't understand and has to look them up.
He is then an instant expert.

One term he doesn't get is "Asylum Policy" with regard to Switzerland.
After learning it's meaning he says he would be the ideal candidate for asylum in Switzerland (!)
But goes on to say that he won't do it because he is "busy fighting on the the front lines of an infowar"

Alex Jones has a lot to answer for.


I'm sorry, but I couldn't hang in there that long...too boring and stupid.
 
19 pages and every single post off-topic (not one attempt to prove the "official story" false).

Don't know about everyone else, but I'm waiting for the court case so that I can see what the official story actually is! :D
 
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