Merged The Suffering of Anders Breivik

[Giz]

...the sentence you quoted says nothing at all about "crying." In the absence of any evidence, in fact in the absence of any allegation, and considering the person who made the initial claim has now stated that he/she had no source at all, it would be irrational to provisionally accept an unsourced piece of speculation as true.

Oh absolutely. Hearts of Oak are our tars. In future generations this will doubtless be looked upon as a fine moment in our naval history.

What might Churchill have said? "I have nothing to offer but blood, sweat, tears... or my iPad".

But if you want to continue to defend a confluence of astoundingly unprofessional behavior by the RN then go ahead, even Nelson chose to be blind sometimes.

 

[Craig4]

I say give him a Nintendo 64 only no gun attachment and no Duck Hunt for reasons that I'm sure don't require explanation.

 

[banquetbear]

Oh absolutely. Hearts of Oak are our tars. In future generations this will doubtless be looked upon as a fine moment in our naval history.

What might Churchill have said? "I have nothing to offer but blood, sweat, tears... or my iPad".

But if you want to continue to defend a confluence of astoundingly unprofessional behavior by the RN then go ahead, even Nelson chose to be blind sometimes.

...I have no idea what you've just said: and every attempt at parsing your words into english has failed.

When you've produced the evidence of "crying" though please feel free to share it with us.

 

[Uzzy]

I say give him a Nintendo 64 only no gun attachment and no Duck Hunt for reasons that I'm sure don't require explanation.

We can give him Superman 64.

 

[Polaris]

There are some choice titles for the bastard on here:

http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/gaming/10-most-boring-video-games

This one might be the winner, though:

http://www.cnet.com.au/is-waiting-in-line-3d-the-most-boring-video-game-ever-339346181.htm

 

[phunk]

Just give him a copy of Desert Bus and nothing else.

 

[Seismosaurus]

From the Guardian article:
"the youngest of the seized crew, Arthur Batchelor, 20, who said in an interview on his release that he had his iPod taken from him"

So Arthur Batchelor said it happened and the First Sea Lord seems to believe him. Why the reluctance to countenance it? At this point it seems rational for skeptics to provisionally accept it as true.

Again, where is the part that says HE CRIED when it was taken off him, please?

You haven't cited a single instance where anybody has said that he cried. No source you've linked has mentioned crying, no quote has mentioned it. Given this, it seems to me than an actual skeptic would start to think you were misrepresenting the truth at this point.

 

[Cainkane1]

Too bad Norway doesn't have the death penalty.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Too bad Norway doesn't have the death penalty.

Nah, just have him play games... with General Population.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Again, where is the part that says HE CRIED when it was taken off him, please?

You haven't cited a single instance where anybody has said that he cried. No source you've linked has mentioned crying, no quote has mentioned it. Given this, it seems to me than an actual skeptic would start to think you were misrepresenting the truth at this point.

The whole vibe I'm getting is "kids today, sailor had a portable music device, if he didn't cry he probably would have! The spoiled generation, etc etc".

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Too bad Norway doesn't have the death penalty.

Your personal gratification aside, the death penalty doesn't seem to work as a deterrent.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Your personal gratification aside, the death penalty doesn't seem to work as a deterrent.

But it does work in putting criminals out of society's misery. See: Andrei Chikatilo, Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh.

 

[Resume]

Your personal gratification aside, the death penalty doesn't seem to work as a deterrent.

It certainly deters the deceased.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

But it does work in putting criminals out of society's misery. See: Andrei Chikatilo, Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh.

It certainly deters the deceased.

So it gives people satisfaction, and the corpses of the criminals are only a danger to Rick Grimes. It's still a demonstrably poor deterrent.

 

[Resume]

It's still a demonstrably poor deterrent.

It's a demonstrable deterrent in regards to John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy.

And I'm fine with them being dead. If that makes me a bad person, I'm a bad person I guess.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

It's a demonstrable deterrent in regards to John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy.

So when they died, it somehow sent a time ripple that stopped their crimes from happening?

Has anyone told Jean Claude Van Damme?

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

And I'm fine with them being dead. If that makes me a bad person, I'm a bad person I guess.

I get great satisfaction from criminals being harshly punished, it's a pretty common piece of wiring in the brain, especially for men. That doesn't mean I let it cloud my rationality, or control my decisions.

If someone hurt my family I'd want to bash their heads in with a rock. But that's neither here nor there when it comes to what's good for society, or the best way to reduce crime.

 

[Resume]

So when they died, it somehow sent a time ripple that stopped their crimes from happening?

Nope. It stopped any in the future

I used to be anti death penalty; I have a cousin who spent more than 30 years in Stateville for murder. He's out now. He shouldn't be. There are a lot of folks to blame for this, but the most of all, him.

You wouldn't want him living next to you, you really wouldn't.

 

[Resume]

I get great satisfaction from criminals being harshly punished, it's a pretty common piece of wiring in the brain, especially for men. That doesn't mean I let it cloud my rationality, or control my decisions.

If someone hurt my family I'd want to bash their heads in with a rock. But that's neither here nor there when it comes to what's good for society, or the best way to reduce crime.

I understand your point, I used to agree with it. But I don't now.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Nope. It stopped any in the future

I used to be anti death penalty; I have a cousin who spent more than 30 years in Stateville for murder. He's out now. He shouldn't be. There are a lot of folks to blame for this, but the most of all, him.

You wouldn't want him living next to you, you really wouldn't.

Well anyone who gets the death penalty would be getting life without parole otherwise, so Bundy wouldn't have been gnawing on me while I slept, even if they hadn't killed him.

Or are you arguing that we're too soft, and a lower bar who death row would help deter murderers?