quixotecoyote
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I think Norway prisons are a little less Mad Max than the US, but I could be wrong.
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Merged The Suffering of Anders Breivik
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I think Norway prisons are a little less Mad Max than the US, but I could be wrong.
timhau
NWO Litter Technician
You clearly are. The Norwegian prison Breivik is at is so inhumane, he can't find strength to continue his studies at the University of Oslo. How much more Mad Max can you get?
fagin
Philosopher
Don't care about Breivik but got a smile out of some of the side links:
Norwegian army get new organic underwear.
http://www.thelocal.no/20150902/norwegian-army-get-new-organic-underwear
Norway starts school for vikings
http://www.thelocal.no/20150803/norway-starts-school-for-vikings
Those crazy Norwegians.
Norwegian army get new organic underwear.
http://www.thelocal.no/20150902/norwegian-army-get-new-organic-underwear
Norway starts school for vikings
http://www.thelocal.no/20150803/norway-starts-school-for-vikings
Those crazy Norwegians.
ddt
Mafia Penguin
He's an evil terrorist, not a moron. He wanted a PS4!
Boohoo. He must be really suffering.
I'm not a gamer, but I think the controllers are wireless these days.The big question, though, is: will he be serious about this and try to break Bobby Sands' record?
Aepervius
Non credunt, semper verificare
Boohoo. He must be really suffering.
Actually he may do. There is a lot of psychological study out there showing solitary is terrible on the human psyche, some comparing it to psychological torture. Whether you particularly care or not is one thing, but remember even the US has something against cruel and unusual punishment, and so has Sweden IIRC.
ddt
Mafia Penguin
FTFY. Yes, I'm aware of that. How much influence, though, do the rest of the conditions have? I'd think there would be a big difference between being locked up in a dungeon with nothing but a bed and a bucket to poo in, or having a TV, a game console and the possibility to study.
Aepervius
Non credunt, semper verificare
First of all, he has personality disorder which then by definition means that his behavior, and possibly thoughts, is abnormal. Second of all he is human being.
Now what is the problem, why am I reading this thread?
Oh because someone named it: The Suffering of Anders Breivik. Well, cant comment on that someone (FUA) and cant really comment on the title because that's like for 11 year old, however, the person in question has same rights as any other person sentenced in similar fashion, which included use of PS3 (if others has access to it) or studying Uni (if other has access to it).
The only suffering here is mine. Seriously
Now what is the problem, why am I reading this thread?
Oh because someone named it: The Suffering of Anders Breivik. Well, cant comment on that someone (FUA) and cant really comment on the title because that's like for 11 year old, however, the person in question has same rights as any other person sentenced in similar fashion, which included use of PS3 (if others has access to it) or studying Uni (if other has access to it).
The only suffering here is mine. Seriously
First of all, Breivik is in Norway.
Second, the Swedish prison system has a huge problem where inmates, mostly people subject to pre-trial incarceration, are subject to near complete isolation for extended periods of time. They are locked up into the equivalent of a bathroom without any TV/Radio/Newspaper/etc at all. They aren't allowed to socialize with other inmates, talk with relatives and so on. The only human contact they have may amount to hearing the person who chucks their food-tray into their cell.
Even if the courts decide that the isolation isn't warranted anymore (such as happened after an suspect was subject to isolation for years during an incredibly dysfunctional, corrupt and largely failed police investigation) the prosecutor and prison authorities can disregard this and unilaterally decide that the suspect needs to be "isolated because of security reasons".
All of this is because of the desire to prevent the suspect(s) from working out a common narrative to give during police interrogations (which most of the court case is based upon). Despite years of criticism from various groups, including the UN and ECHR, politicians have been more or less completely apathetic and indifferent to this form of institutionalized psychiatric torture. Only this year did someone of any importance give a damn and a parliamentary investigation was started around the subject.
The Swedish prisons where people serve their sentence are on the other hand, usually, far less strict and more humane. There inmates aren't subject to isolation nearly as often. Perhaps more importantly they aren't subject to the uncertainty of when the trial will take place and what the judgement will be, which is often one of the largest sources of anxiety and suffering.
To those who were worried about Breivik, Norwegian media is reporting that he has now ended his hunger strike. His lawyer is saying that he never intended to go on a hunger strike anyway, it was just something he was considering to do, so there.
The trial has commenced today and true to form, the second he was relieved of his handcuffs in the interrim court room, and before the eyes of the media, he gave the Hitler salute.
The Norwegian State's attorney has remarked Breivik has shown no remorse for his actions, that he remains a very dangerous man, and that he cannot be trusted to abtsain from violence against other inmates. He has also referred to threats made against Breivik, including one from as recent as last year, in which another inmate escaped to Breivik's section and made death threats against him.
The Norwegian State's attorney has remarked Breivik has shown no remorse for his actions, that he remains a very dangerous man, and that he cannot be trusted to abtsain from violence against other inmates. He has also referred to threats made against Breivik, including one from as recent as last year, in which another inmate escaped to Breivik's section and made death threats against him.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
And the Court has found that Breivik's human rights were violated.
https://www.domstol.no/en/Enkelt-do...e-and-claimed-violation-of-human-rights-echr/
https://www.domstol.no/en/Enkelt-do...e-and-claimed-violation-of-human-rights-echr/
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
So now the poor darling MAY be able to leave isolation and mix with other inmates from time to time. I wonder if any of them want to mix with him, and how long before someone accidentally drops a fjord on him or force-feeds him two liters of lutefisk.
shemp
a flimsy character...perfidious and despised
A fate worse than death.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
And if he lives, they can do it again!
Sorry, I used all of mine for it's victims. I have nothing for it.
Arisia
Graduate Poster
I wonder how long it will be until another inmate does some up close and personal violation of human rights on Mr. Breivik... or what if some of them are not 'real Norwegians'? Will he be suing to be isolated again or suing to get those who aren't 'real Norwegians' moved to other facilities since he'd probably whine that their presence is a violation of his human rights?