Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[DrDave]

What had happened in that WW III?

The Olympics

 

[Rincewind]

20120823.2315

This may be why there is a whistling sound at the entry and exit of spirits when Ka Apaz is lying down and covered with bedsheet.

Actually, something similar happens to me when I've been eating baked beans..

 

[pakeha]

Gold Diggers of 1933

... I check whether it is logical or not, or proven by fact, like King Legum and Queen Agleloma and their daughter, Princess Reneliniyindi, of Egypt. Until I have proven it, I say that Ama revealed such and such. I pick up what I think will be good for my soul and discard what is evil. ...I will answer your posts in a while.

PC, does this mean you now see that Reneliniyindi along with her family, the Helene Curtis heiress, St Evangeline and so on were just crass inventions?

 

[catsmate]

Yeah but PC keeps adding more and more incoherent nonsense. It's fun to see what in the world he'll come up with next. For example, suppose there was a WWIII and everything was destroyed EXCEPT the Spratly Islands. Where would the goalposts end up?

Reminds me of Dan'l and his San Francisco obsession.

 

[The Don]

20120824.1945


Five Conflicts That Could Roil Global Markets

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443855804577601583819562456.html

I will answer your posts in a while.

The article you link to is behind a (Dirty Digger) paywall, I'm not willing to subscribe and I'd be surprised if you have read the full aticle.

I have not read the full article but there is a HUGE difference between a realistic threat of WWIII breaking out and the stock markets having the vapours over some border disputes and threats of possible limited military action.

 

[blue sock monkey]

Quatrain XII
A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread--and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness--

Thank you for all your help in my seeking out the truth. I do not accept everything that Ama says “hook, line, and sinker”. I check whether it is logical or not, or proven by fact, like King Legum and Queen Agleloma and their daughter, Princess Reneliniyindi, of Egypt. Until I have proven it, I say that Ama revealed such and such. I pick up what I think will be good for my soul and discard what is evil.

If I do not know the answer, I say I do not know. I am already old so I would like to share what I know. I like the way you scrutinize what I say. If I do not answer your question immediately, just repeat it because usually, I acknowledge those posted on the last page and/or on the previous page. In other words, the most recent ones.

The 2012 Olympic Games in London ended on 08-12. The prophecies failed. But Ama said that the war will happen from Spratly Islands, the Philippines being one of the claimants. And the threat of a war erupting there is still real.

Ignoring for the nonce your ghoulish hopes for global war, no doubt paralleled by your prayers for my eternal chastisement by Teh Wholly Spook^TM, I turn instead to the question of how you go about verifying the lies told by that ignoble mountebank Ka Apaz.

Not the specific claims themselves--which are more ably dealt with by my knowledgeable colleagues--but your methods.

For instance, when you heard that a woman claimed to be keeping incorruptible corpses in a homemade crypt, did you bother to check out literature on "incorruptibility" other than that composed by rabid believers in supernatural phenomena? No, I thought not; you confined yourself to Wikipedia lists of pickled saints and such. Here is a book that I heartily recommend for your bedside table. It behooves you to give the skeptics equal time.

Let us turn to coincidences. I know from your ever-so-interesting website that you put great stock in synchronicity, especially with regards to numbers.

We see and hear hundreds if not thousands of numbers everyday: car license plates, phone numbers on caller ID, dates on e-mail, weather reports, cable tv channel listings, menu prices, store shelves and receipts, figures on bills, street addresses, bank statements, receipts, ticket stubs. Because we are inundated with numbers, it is inevitable that certain figures (even those of three digits or more) will bob up in the resultant puddles more than once. If you are looking for a specific number, you surely will notice it multiple times--but you are forgetting about the thousands of figures you also saw or heard yet did not consider significant and thus ignored. That is why most such coincidences are meaningless: You remember the hits but forget the misses.

I have here for your delectation an illustration of how absurd it is to assign significance to random numbers. Please note carefully the two characters at the bottom of the picture: They are both making an elementary mistake in reasoning which any skeptic here could have corrected for them (to wit, they should have ordered the veal).

Now, after you have considered my comments, please could you share with us why you consider coincidences to be convincing evidence?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

20120825.0025

This is what I sent to the calendar list that I participate in.

I think the Spanish era’s usage ceased in the Iberian peninsula during the 14th century because the Spanish era and the Christian are almost the same.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_era , it was in 1383 AD when the Spanish era ceased in Castile. It was in fact, December 25, 1384 in the Spanish era, when it ceased its usage.

This is the entry at Wikipedia:

“The use of the Hispanic era probably began in Iberia in the 3rd century. The reason for its particular popularity is unknown. Usage died out in different parts of the Iberian peninsula at different times:
• In Catalonia, usage ceased after the Council of Tarragona in 1180 (Era MCCXVIII).
• In Aragon, Valencia, and Majorca, it was abandoned during the reign (between about 1217 and 1276) of James I.
In Castile, use was suppressed by John I in accord with the cortes of Segovia in 1383 (in fact, on December 25, 1384).”

In Castile, the Spanish year 1384 is divided by 33 equals 41.9. 41.9 x 32 = 1340.8. 1384 – 1340.8 = 43.2. Therefore, the Spanish era started in 43 BC. This is assuming that there are 32 solar years in 33 lunar years. Karl would be able to calculate the exact year.

It was not in 1180 AD when Catalonia ceased using the Spanish era. How 1180 was gotten, 38 was subtracted from 1218 (MCCXVIII). It was assuming that the Spanish era started in 38 BC and that it was using a solar calendar or a lunisolar calendar.

Ama revealed that Jesus was born on May 23. I found the year to be 33 BC. The start of the Spanish era in 43 BC and my calculated year when Jesus was born, 33 BC, are not that far away but far away from the assumed year of 1 BC.

 

[devnull]

PC, you know that, most likely, Jesus never existed in the first place, right?

 

[Foolmewunz]

I have here for your delectation an illustration of how absurd it is to assign significance to random numbers. Please note carefully the two characters at the bottom of the picture: They are both making an elementary mistake in reasoning which any skeptic here could have corrected for them (to wit, they should have ordered the veal).

[qimg]http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/45/14/76/00/00/full.png[/qimg]

Now, after you have considered my comments, please could you share with us why you consider coincidences to be convincing evidence?

Maybe your best poster yet. Love "Le Lapin Rouge". But I would differ on the opinion of the eats. Obviously, one should order the rabbit. From the pictorial evidence, it's "fresh-killed", and bound to be delicious.

 

[Foolmewunz]

20120825.0025

This is what I sent to the calendar list that I participate in.

I think the Spanish era’s usage ceased in the Iberian peninsula during the 14th century because the Spanish era and the Christian are almost the same.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_era , it was in 1383 AD when the Spanish era ceased in Castile. It was in fact, December 25, 1384 in the Spanish era, when it ceased its usage.

This is the entry at Wikipedia:

“The use of the Hispanic era probably began in Iberia in the 3rd century. The reason for its particular popularity is unknown. Usage died out in different parts of the Iberian peninsula at different times:
• In Catalonia, usage ceased after the Council of Tarragona in 1180 (Era MCCXVIII).
• In Aragon, Valencia, and Majorca, it was abandoned during the reign (between about 1217 and 1276) of James I.
In Castile, use was suppressed by John I in accord with the cortes of Segovia in 1383 (in fact, on December 25, 1384).”

In Castile, the Spanish year 1384 is divided by 33 equals 41.9. 41.9 x 32 = 1340.8. 1384 – 1340.8 = 43.2. Therefore, the Spanish era started in 43 BC. This is assuming that there are 32 solar years in 33 lunar years. Karl would be able to calculate the exact year.

It was not in 1180 AD when Catalonia ceased using the Spanish era. How 1180 was gotten, 38 was subtracted from 1218 (MCCXVIII). It was assuming that the Spanish era started in 38 BC and that it was using a solar calendar or a lunisolar calendar.

Ama revealed that Jesus was born on May 23. I found the year to be 33 BC. The start of the Spanish era in 43 BC and my calculated year when Jesus was born, 33 BC, are not that far away but far away from the assumed year of 1 BC.

PeaceCrusader,

Seriously.... WTF, dude??!! Is this how you distract yourself when you find the veracity of your lying crone to be assaulted on all fronts? Would that you had us around in the 80s, you could've saved yourself a dozen years of twisting and turning bible verses to find agreement with her nonsensical prognostications on Jesus' birth and death dates.

Seriously. The above has absolutely nothing to do with the topic under examination and lends absolutely nothing towards proving or disproving the rather blatant and obvious falsehoods about a Spanish King who did not exist being wed to an Egyptian Princess who did not exist, born of parents who did not exist. Add to that the heiress who does not exist and the saint with a speech affliction who does not exist, and the rest of us are beginning to discern a pattern, here and we're kind of hoping you'll join us.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I thought WW III will still come, but you say that it is over. What had happened in that WW III?

You died. Sorry to break it to you this way...

 

[Locknar]

I will be going through the last few pages of this thread, re breaches of rule 0, rule 11, rule 12. Please keep the discussion civil/polite, on topic, and address the argument vs attack the arguer.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Locknar

 

[Astreja]

I am already old so I would like to share what I know.

64 is not old, PC. You still have time to start questioning your religious indoctrination, develop some critical thinking skills and improve the quality of your life.

I, Myself just turned 55. I do not believe in your god nor in any of your prophesies. My family is financially comfortable and My life is fulfilling -- Full of music, art, gardens and friendly pussycats. If I were to try to believe the already disproven nonsense that you're trying to sell us here, I feel that My quality of life would plummet dramatically.

So My question is this: Why should we want to become like you, believing obvious lies as if they were true and looking forward to the deaths of 4 billion people? I see absolutely no advantage whatsoever in following you or your false prophet Ka Apaz.

 

[pakeha]

1911, the year China adopted the Gregorian calendar

...This is what I sent to the calendar list that I participate in. ...In Castile, the Spanish year 1384 is divided by 33 equals 41.9. 41.9 x 32 = 1340.8. 1384 – 1340.8 = 43.2. Therefore, the Spanish era started in 43 BC. This is assuming that there are 32 solar years in 33 lunar years. ...

PC, are you quite sure that the Roman Empire used a lunar calendar?
ETA
None of this changes the fact that KA's prediction about the 2012 Olympics was a false one, does it?

Maybe your best poster yet. Love "Le Lapin Rouge".

Seconded.
Is this evidence of the power of beignets to inspire artistic endeavours?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

20120825.0150

I am interrupting my response to blue sock monkey with this post to inform you why this thread is still going on despite the end of the 2012 Olympic Games in London. Yes, it was successfully staged and completed on 08-12, but the world war did not happen. So the prophecies failed.

The source of the prophecies is under scrutiny. I am trying to explain what I heard and learned from this source for people in this forum to put him under the microscope for my betterment. There are many things that the source said, like what is in the Holy Bible, and those inspired to me, like the Aristean calendar. Just pick up what he said is good for the soul and discard what is evil.

He revealed that Jesus was born on May 23 and died on August 17. Just yesterday, I discovered that the year that I found based on the revealed dates seem to concur with what is on the Internet. So I don’t have to ignore everything that he said because of failed prophecies. I have to be selective.

 

[hcmom]

20120824.1945

I like the way you scrutinize what I say.

I suspect that this is the main point here...

 

[PeaceCrusader]

1911, the year China adopted the Gregorian calendar


PC, are you quite sure that the Roman Empire used a lunar calendar?
ETA
None of this changes the fact that KA's prediction about the 2012 Olympics was a false one, does it?


Seconded.
Is this evidence of the power of beignets to inspire artistic endeavours?

20120825.0235

@pakeha, #3834

The Roman Empire was using Julian solar calendar with 365/366 per year implemented during the time of Julius Caesar. My contention is that the Spanish era was using a lunar calendar with 354/355 days per year. Both the Julian calendar and the Spanish era start their year from the birth of Jesus Christ. So in about the 14th century AD, the use of the Spanish era was stopped in the Iberian peninsula because the years of the Julian calendar and the Spanish era are almost the same numerically.

I still accept that the prophecies failed. Those that are logically correct, or can be verified, could be accepted as truth if it is for the good of the soul. Those that do not, discard them as evil. We have to learn to be scrutinizing.

 

[Debaser]

Did you know that there are only three people in this world who while still alive were being eaten by maggots? They were King Herod the Great (who killed innocent children), Adolf Hitler (for starting World War II), and Mariano(?) Chico of Baliwag, Bulacan, Philippines. This happened to Chico because he charged exorbitant interest rate.

Given the madness that's the rest of this thread I can see why this bit passed with minor comment.

But of all the people who have ever lived the only three worth of the torment of being eaten alive are two mass murderers, fair enough, and someone who lends money and charges high...sorry exorbitant...interest rates???

Pol Pot? Mao? Stalin? Innocents. Innocents all of them.

Mariano Chico of Baliwag, Bulacan, the Philippines (evidently the centre of the World)...you evil bastard!


(Apparently someone owes someone else a few quid/pesos, eh?).

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Quatrain XII
A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread--and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness--


Ignoring for the nonce your ghoulish hopes for global war, no doubt paralleled by your prayers for my eternal chastisement by Teh Wholly Spook^TM, I turn instead to the question of how you go about verifying the lies told by that ignoble mountebank Ka Apaz.

Not the specific claims themselves--which are more ably dealt with by my knowledgeable colleagues--but your methods.

For instance, when you heard that a woman claimed to be keeping incorruptible corpses in a homemade crypt, did you bother to check out literature on "incorruptibility" other than that composed by rabid believers in supernatural phenomena? No, I thought not; you confined yourself to Wikipedia lists of pickled saints and such. Here is a book that I heartily recommend for your bedside table. It behooves you to give the skeptics equal time.

Let us turn to coincidences. I know from your ever-so-interesting website that you put great stock in synchronicity, especially with regards to numbers.

We see and hear hundreds if not thousands of numbers everyday: car license plates, phone numbers on caller ID, dates on e-mail, weather reports, cable tv channel listings, menu prices, store shelves and receipts, figures on bills, street addresses, bank statements, receipts, ticket stubs. Because we are inundated with numbers, it is inevitable that certain figures (even those of three digits or more) will bob up in the resultant puddles more than once. If you are looking for a specific number, you surely will notice it multiple times--but you are forgetting about the thousands of figures you also saw or heard yet did not consider significant and thus ignored. That is why most such coincidences are meaningless: You remember the hits but forget the misses.

I have here for your delectation an illustration of how absurd it is to assign significance to random numbers. Please note carefully the two characters at the bottom of the picture: They are both making an elementary mistake in reasoning which any skeptic here could have corrected for them (to wit, they should have ordered the veal).

[qimg]http://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/45/14/76/00/00/full.png[/qimg]

Now, after you have considered my comments, please could you share with us why you consider coincidences to be convincing evidence?

20120825.0050

@blue sock monkey, #3826

Regarding incorruptibility, I did not bother to read other literature except what is in Wikipedia and other Internet sites. What Angelina Imden said may be similar to what I understand of incorruptibility. The incorruptible corpses are not in a homemade crypt but in coffins in a room. According to Ama in a tape on 1996-12-29, there are 370 bodies in which the spirit resided, the first of which is that of Reneliniyindi. Of these, 97 have already been dug up by Angelina Imden. This is in conflict with what the late Marcial Aguila wrote. He said that there are 177 reincarnations. I do not know from where he heard this 177.

I have been to your Amazon link. I saw Joe Nickell, “the modern Sherlock Holmes”. He has written several books. If you know him, please ask him to investigate also Ka Apaz in the Philippines.

Regarding the coincidences in my life, I only learn about them after the incident. You know, it has been some time now that I have not encountered any coincidences. The coincidences may be related by Julian and Gregorian calendar and my maternal grandmother’s name and my mother’s name. Or the registration plate number of cars. Or all about Greek mythology.

 

[Mojo]

Regarding the coincidences in my life, I only learn about them after the incident.

You only learn about anything after the incident.