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Do you really need me to point out all the posts in this thread that have torn to shreds your "arguments" for the dates you are pushing for the birth and death of Jesus?

You have not defended your claims at all. You have simply repeated, often verbatim, your initial statements, without addressing any of the arguments against them. That is not an actual argument. Do you really not see that?


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@AdMan, #3959

Yes, AdMan, point out to me those posts that debunk my “arguments” for the May 23 birth and August 17 death of Jesus that the spirit of Ama revealed.

Christians say that Passover is in March or April. I say that before, Passover was moving through the seasons. When Jesus was crucified, Passover was in August.

Is it in spring when the fig tree is in season to fruit? Can you just wear a linen cloth without anything underneath in spring?
 
Christians say that Passover is in March or April. I say that before, Passover was moving through the seasons. When Jesus was crucified, Passover was in August.

Where is your evidence for this claim?

Is it in spring when the fig tree is in season to fruit?

Fig trees yield fruit twice a year.

Can you just wear a linen cloth without anything underneath in spring?

Yes, certainly.
 
Do you love your life, Astreja? If so, then search for Him that gave you your life.

I neither "love" nor "hate" My life. I live it to the fullest extent possible, without undue attachment to it, because I believe that one day I will cease to exist.

And I do not believe that your imaginary friend gave Me that life. That honour goes to My parents, and to no one else.

I will not seek out your god because I see no point in chasing after things that I believe to be imaginary.

If your god wants to talk to Me, it will have to come to Me... In person, in physical form.

My only “consolation” is that there is still that Sword of Damocles hanging over us...

The very fact that you see a horrific threat as a consolation just reinforces My desire to have nothing to do with the things you believe.

Why the prophecies failed? I do not know.

Probably because they were just something that someone made up. There's no divinity in them, Aristeo. None.

And you might want to start asking yourself why your prophesies failed while all of Mine were fulfilled. :D
 
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@Hokulele, #3922

You may check her pulse when she leaves her body but I tell you that the exit and entry of spirits happen in a second or two. We (plural) see her body collapses. We hear the sound of it hitting the floor. We see it rises again. So you may not even have time to check the pulse.


Hook her up to a hospital monitor then.

It is almost as if you are afraid to have her tested...
 
It is almost as if you are afraid to have her tested...


Over course he his. Putting under scrutiny a person you believe to be the chosen medium for God is tantamount to a lack of faith.

I sometimes wonder how many devout individuals trap themselves into continued belief in obvious hoaxes because of this. Or maybe they just don't want to admit to themselves that they can't recognize the One True God™.

ETA: PeaceCrusader, for example, seems utterly incapable of separating Ka Apaz the person from his faith. For some reason he can't accept that this is simply one human being engaging in deception without it having a serious, negative effect on his faith. No, this little old lady must be channeling divinity, and he'll put himself through some unbelievable mental contortions to "prove" it to himself.
 
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Yes, AdMan, point out to me those posts that debunk my “arguments” for the May 23 birth and August 17 death of Jesus that the spirit of Ama revealed.
To repeat just one of the arguments: you said you had worked out that August 17th was a Thursday. All the gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Friday.

All your arguments for these dates have been shown to be nonsense. Your responses to the posts that show this has been to simply repeat the nonsense.
 
The bottom line to any and all speculation is that KA is a false medium.
No WW III disrupted the 2012 Olympics.
Game over.

...Remember Jesus cursing the fig tree? When is the fruiting season of the fig tree? When do the fig tree have big, broad leaves? Can you just have a linen cloth on your body without anything underneath in spring or in summer?

What does the fig tree have to do with the date of the crucifixion?
As for the linen sheet, PC, well, there are people who sleep naked winter an summer, from what I can see the young man simply caught up a sheet to wrap himself in and hurried out.
What is so strange about that?


...Ama did not use the Aristean Cycle. He may have accessed to the same Holy Bible that I use but not the Aristean Cycle.

Since the AC is your own mental construct, it's hardly surprising KA hadn't access to it. Since your mental construct is designed to corroborate KA's revelations, that the two agree is guaranteed.


... They all seem to point to 2012. Why the prophecies failed? I do not know.

They failed because they are false, PC. As false as St Evangeline.
 
To repeat just one of the arguments: you said you had worked out that August 17th was a Thursday. All the gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Friday.


Yeah, but it's not as if the gospels are the word of God or something.
 
Then why did you were devastated when the prophecy of a nuclear war failed, and why do you still have the consolation that the Spratly Island dispute could bring a nuclear war?

I think I can answer that.

1. He wanted 10 women and the lack of war has not allowed that to come to pass, because the population ratio has not altered from 1:1 to 1:10..

2. He wanted a nice big free house which he could just walk in and "lease" from the "Government" at no cost.

3. He wanted a nice little town with 20,000 people in it, with nice shops and schools and Churches, a University, and most of all a Zoo nearby where he could feed peanuts to monkeys.

None of this came to pass. And all that has happened is that the market he cornered on Duct Tape and Door Stoppers has collapsed.

Norm
 
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@AdMan, #3959

Yes, AdMan, point out to me those posts that debunk my “arguments” for the May 23 birth and August 17 death of Jesus that the spirit of Ama revealed.
Read my posts on the subject.

Christians say that Passover is in March or April.
Well, not just Christians but the whole of Jewish history, together with the Biblical commandments in Exodus about keeping the Passover in Spring, say that it's in March or April.
I say that before, Passover was moving through the seasons. When Jesus was crucified, Passover was in August.
And yet, you have provided no evidence for this assertion. All the assertions you've made, such as the ones below about figs and the temperature, have been shown to be in error.

Is it in spring when the fig tree is in season to fruit?
The first fruits, or taqsh, appear in the late spring/early summer. But the Bible (the Word of God, according to believers) states that when Jesus cursed the fig tree, it was not the time of figs. So it could not possibly have been in August or the fig trees would have been laden with fruit.

Can you just wear a linen cloth without anything underneath in spring?
Of course, particularly in the warm climate of the Middle East. Even in the cooler part of early spring the temperatures in Jerusalem are above 16C/61F, so more than warm enough for just a linen cloth.
 
This, I don't understand:

Jesus can walk on water, turn water into wine, feed the 5000, etc. All perfectly OK
Jesus wears a linen robe in spring - Impossible!
 
I think I can answer that.

1. He wanted 10 women and the lack of war has not allowed that to come to pass, because the population ratio has not altered from 1:1 to 1:10..

2. He wanted a nice big free house which he could just walk in and "lease" from the "Government" at no cost.

3. He wanted a nice little town with 20,000 people in it, with nice shops and schools and Churches, a University, and most of all a Zoo nearby where he could feed peanuts to monkeys.

None of this came to pass. And all that has happened is that the market he cornered on Duct Tape and Door Stoppers has collapsed.

Norm

4. The humble and not conceited Aristeo Canlas Fernando, creator of the Aristean calendar that will be implemented all over the world, has been chosen by the True God to present His teachings to mankind. So It must be a bit dissapointing that the prophecy of a nuclear war resulted in a big fiasco, just like the false egyptian princess, the false St. Evangeline, the false Angeline Indem, and so on.
 
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PeaceCrusader,

Sorry to dig this up again, but I saw the film 2012 yesterday, and in it, there was a news flash of the London Olympics 2012 about to be cancelled, because of a huge disaster with flaming rocks crashing between marathon runners. The film was released in 2009.

I could not find the post where you write about which year Ka Apaz made the prediction, but could it have been just after she had heard trailers for this film? This resemblance is a bit too coincidental for my taste.

Thank you,
Femke
 
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If World War III does not start before the 2012 Olympic Games in London, then I will say that He is a false god.
Still waiting.

BTW, how much money have you donated to your false god?
It did not happen. Is PC now claiming that Ama is a liar? Nope, PC is now claiming Ama is a true prophet. Two years after the last abject fail, no less.
 
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