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These boiled brains of nineteen and two-and-twenty

These nineteen prophecies?
1 VIOLENT WEATHER - More violent manifestations of the weather will occur, causing devastation to both people and crops

More violent than what? There will always be violent weather from time to time, and occasionally people or crops are caught up in it. This is not prophecy, merely a statement of how the world has always been.

2 UNNATURAL AND UNBELIEVABLE OCCURRENCES - The world will witness a number of unnatural and unbelievable occurrences, which are nevertheless true. For one, certain infants will be born with fully-grown hair and a complete set of adult teeth. Scared by this phenomenon, mothers of these infants will be driven to getting rid of such offspring. This is one Providential notice of displeasure over mankind 's waning regard for the Kingdom of God

This is nonsense. It is not unusual, unnatural or unbelievable for babies to be born with hair and/or teeth (though not adult ones, a baby's jaw would not be big enough), and mothers do not kill their children for this reason. Not fulfilled.

3 PEOPLE'S RELATIONSHIP - Peoples' relationship with one another will take a bad turn and cause universal unrest

This isn't even trying to be a prophecy. There's nothing unusual about conflict and unrest, the human race has always been arguing over things. Not a prophecy.

4 CONFUSION OF WORSHIP - There will be worldwide confusion of worship caused by a lot of religious distortions by pseudo preachers for self-gain


Again, there has always been many different religions, and preachers who are motivated by money. Nothing new, so not a prophecy.

5 SIGNIFICANT REVELATIONS FROM HEAVEN - Heaven will make certain significant revelations which, however, will escape peoples' notice due to their engrossment in self-centered activities;

What significant revelations have been made from this non-existent place? Not fulfilled.

6 BREAK-UP OF FAMILIES - Breaking of families will come in many instances and places - brother against brother against sister against parents

Just like Jesus commanded? Many families argue. Not a prophecy, merely a statement of the status quo.

7 FIRES AND LIGHTNINGS - Fires will continue to wreck destruction all over the world, and lightning will demand quite a toll of human lives;


Fires and lightning have always happened and will continue to happen. About 44 people die every year from being struck by lightning, but only about 10% of those struck will die from it. Not a prophecy, and not fulfilled.

8 DROUGHT - Worldwide drought will plague mankind, with the obvious consequence of plant-and-crop shortage;

Droughts in some places happen regularly, as do floods. This is a normal pattern. However, a worldwide drought has not happened. Not a prophecy and not fulfilled.

9 POPULATION EXPLOSION - Simultaneously, population will explode all over the globe, causing great turmoil;

As this is dependent on the previous one, this also fails. The population of the world is growing at the expected rate. Not fulfilled.

10 UNPRECEDENTED SORROW - Unprecedented sorrow will rock the whole world in the second or third month of 1980;

Didn't happen. Not fulfilled.

11 ALIENATION FROM GOD - People will become alienated from God due to the fact that their prayers and supplications, which are all self-serving, will not be heeded by Heaven;

Since prayers are not answered in any meaningful way anyway, this is not a prophecy.

12 MIGRATION OF WILD ANIMALS - People will be horribly concerned over the migration of wild animals to towns and urban places - a foreboding sign of an imminent famine in the Philippines

If such a thing happened in the Philippines it didn't make the world news. Undetermined without further information, but not measurable or timed, so more of a guess than a prophecy.

13 INSANITY - Disease of the brain, or insanity, will prevail in 1980, 1981 until 1988, especially in the three superpower countries


Didn't happen. Not fulfilled.

14 GOTACURAL DISEASE - A disease known as GOTACURAL will occur in epidemic proportions all over the land, and such disease will be incurable even by the known specialists of the medical profession;

We know you think this refers to AIDS, a disease which was known at the time of this prophecy, but as nobody ever refers to AIDS as GOTACURAL the prophecy fails on the first count. As hopes for a cure are high ( this, for example), the second part looks set to fail too. Not fulfilled.

15 WAR - The ambition and motivation for war will be perennial inducements among all races until such inducements are made manifest three years after 1979;

1982 was not a particularly bad or unusual year for war. Not specific or different enough from the status quo to be prophecy.

16 NAMELESS DISEASES - Nameless diseases will spread the cause of which will not be known, and such diseases will exact a heavy toll of human beings and work animals;

Not happened. Not fulfilled.

17 WORM PLAGUE - Worms of all kinds will plague crops and ricefields to destruction; all vegetation will be affected;

Not happened. Not fulfilled.

18 WOMEN'S LAX ON CHASTITY - Young, unmarried women lax on their chastity or virginity, will give rise to birth of illegitimate children, driving these women to commission of widespread infanticide;

More children are being born outside marriage, as many couples don't want to marry. But widespread infanticide has not happened as there is no stigma in most countries to having a baby outside marriage. Not fulfilled.

19 REVOLT OF THE ELEMENTS - The revolt of the elements will take a record high in the years following until the arrival or birth of the so-called 'anti-Christ'.

I have absolutely no idea what you might mean by "revolt of the elements". I need more information to determine whether this is a prophecy, and whether it has been fulfilled.

Peace Crusader, not one of these prophecies have been fulfilled, and most are so vague as to be essentially meaningless.


I think it's a bit of a stretch to consider that prophecy 13 refers to vCJD. The 'madness' symptoms didn't manifest themselves in 1980-1988, nor was the condition prevailing in any country, nor was it found in all three of the superpower countries (by which I assume PC means the former USSR, China and the USA).

PC has suggested elsewhere, if memory serves, that this refers to the higher numbers of people being diagnosed with depression and other psychiatric illnesses - which is almost certainly due to the greater willingness of doctors to make such diagnoses now that there is more understanding of such illnesses.


The first animal to fall ill with mad cow disease was in 1986, so I don't see that 1980 or 1981 count as a hit. The outbreak predominantly affected Britain, so "especially in the three superpower countries" is another miss.


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@Agatha, #3152 and #3161
@Jack by the hedge, #3167

Thank you, Agatha, for posting the 19 prophecies in http://aristean.org/prophecyidx.htm .

The 13th prophecy says, “especially in the three superpower countries”. The United States, the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and Great Britain most likely are the three superpower countries referred to. Other superpower countries are France and China. But the problem of insanity is not just confined to the first three.

When I asked the spirit if 1988 would the the ultimate madness of man, he said no. That may be why we had the Dunblane “slaughter of the innocents” in March 1996, the Port Arthur Massacre a month later, the Batman shooting last month in Colorado, USA, etc. Where is the love of man to his fellowmen?
 
Where is the love of man to his fellowmen?


I can ask you the same thing--you, who have desperately wished for your odious God to destroy two thirds of mankind over the past month, just so the prophecies of your false god and false prophet come true.

You have no shame asking about the love of man for his fellow men.
 
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@TSR, #3170

Here is the full stanza on page 197 of “Awit at Salaysay ng Pasiong Mahal ni Hesukristong Panginoon Natin”, Pasiong Henesis, Edisyon 2008:

Pinagtanto’t binilang na
nang marurunong magbadya
at ng mga Apostoles pa,
taon at edad ni Maria
ay pitongpu’t dalawa.

I bought the book at Catholic Trade in 2009.

Your ’49 edition copy may not be the Pasiong Henesis that I have. I did not know that there is another version or edition.

Well, your edition is neither the Luna and Sons, nor *the* Pasyóng Henesis as actually published in the Philippines.

As such, not "canon". I *strongly* suggest if you are going to make claims about its "being recommended" (I'll be checking with MJ when she jumps online here in a few because I do not believe that it is) you find a *real* version. The Luna and Sons is online here.
 
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Seven times tried that judgment is,
That did never choose amiss.

Where is the love of man to his fellowmen?


It is in every soup kitchen in countless cities. It is in the volunteers at homeless shelters. It in in the work of Doctors Without Borders. It is in the billions of relief aid given around the globe to victims of hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, and famine. It is in those who take peacefully to the streets to protest injustice. It is in the parents who comfort their child after a nightmare, and in the firefighter who rescues a kitten from a sewer. It is in the couple who pauses to photograph a sunrise to share with an absent friend.

Yes, we can often do more for others, and should. But is good not good because better is better?*

If you were not so intent on seeing humanity destroyed, perhaps you could see how much love we share in this world. What evil filter do you use that screens out every act of grace and shows only the bad? Please stop looking into crystal balls and instead learn to gaze out of the window.

*Sir Philip Sidney
 
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Well, your edition is neither the Luna and Sons, nor *the* Pasyóng Henesis as actually published in the Philippines.

As such, not "canon". I *strongly* suggest if you are going to make claims about its "being recommended" (I'll be checking with MJ when she jumps online here in a few because I do not believe that it is) you find a *real* version. The Luna and Sons is online here.


You do realize that it is his fake "holy spirit" who is recommending that as an addendum to the Bible right? It's BS.

Cheese and Rice! How many "recommended supplements" to the Holy BibleTM are there?

The spirit recommends that we use the King James Version of the Holy Bible because he said that it is nearer the truth. He also recommends the use of Pasiong Mahal as a supplement.
 
This thread might have gotten of track ? I just wanted to stop in and say to you UK Folks... Good job on the Olympics !

You should have a GB Bigfoot ? Just thinking... No.. that would not work. Good work on the Olympics you guys !!!!! er.. My mates !!!
 
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It's Quarter to three
There's no one in the place
So stick 'em up, Joe...
(the updated version)


PeaceCrusader,

You are turning me into quite the prophet. I noted a few hours ago that you are now totally ignoring your ticking-down clock. It is still August 8th in a few parts of the world. The U.S. East Coast is now experiencing August 9th. Your prophesied date has elapsed in the capitols of the countries you declared would be part of this.

Where is World War III?

Stop with the splitting of hairs on the age of Virgin Mary and comparing notes on some obscure supplement you have. Tell me where the World War is. You and the lying crone promised us World War III for the past seven weeks, and you are not delivering.

I'm waiting for your complete renunciation of this lying woman and of your own part in the promulgation of this hateful nonsense.
 
Well, your edition is neither the Luna and Sons, nor *the* Pasyóng Henesis as actually published in the Philippines.

As such, not "canon". I *strongly* suggest if you are going to make claims about its "being recommended" (I'll be checking with MJ when she jumps online here in a few because I do not believe that it is) you find a *real* version. The Luna and Sons is online here.


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@TSR, #3184

We are using the same Pasiong Henesis. The only difference is that yours does not have pictures. Please check page 142 in the second column of your “real” version and you will find the stanza that I quoted.
 
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@TSR, #3184

We are using the same Pasiong Henesis. The only difference is that yours does not have pictures. Please check page 142 in the second column of your “real” version and you will find the stanza that I quoted.


This is utterly idiotic and an off-topic distraction from this thread.

Where is the end of the world that your spirit predicted? It is Thursday here in the US. All is peaceful and quiet.

When will you admit that you were wrong?

When will you agree to shut up and stop spreading your garbage?
 
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I just wish that someone might spot BF climbing Big Ben or maybe trying to illegally enter into the Javelin Throw ?











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It is now Thursday, 2012-08-09, in New York City. Soon, it will be California’s turn. And then Hawaii.

I do not know why the prophecies of the spirit that World War III will originate in the Philippines in the middle of this year, and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held (or completed, “Hindi nga matutuloy iyon” – English: That will really not be held) seem to fail. The Closing Ceremony of the Games will be this Sunday, 2012-08-12.

Herewith are some YouTube videos published lately about South China Sea dispute:

Chinese media tell US to 'shut up' over South China Sea tensions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngvFKKL7KWw
2:40, 2012-08-07


China and US will face each other in South China Sea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCQnFhXNak
3:38, 2012-08-08


The South China Sea Dispute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHThKmTGxR4
3:55, 2012-08-07
 
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...in the dreadful dead of dark midnight...

PeaceCrusader, instead of posting links to YouTube videos, please could you reply to the last post by Foolmewunz? Because your prophecy is now failing yet again, and that is what we would all like to discuss.

ETA: It is now Thursday where I am in the central United States. No nukes are falling, and the Chinese navy is not sailing up the Mississippi River.
 
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'Tis now dead midnight....

I do not know why the prophecies of the spirit that World War III will originate in the Philippines in the middle of this year, and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held (or completed, “Hindi nga matutuloy iyon” – English: That will really not be held) seem to fail. The Closing Ceremony of the Games will be this Sunday, 2012-08-12.


Your prophecies do not "seem to fail."

They do fail.
 
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I do not know why the prophecies of the spirit ... seem to fail.

Looking at it optimistically, at least you aren't trying to explain the failure. I'm sure Ka Apaz will, but maybe you can look at your certainty of the last several prophecies, and their similar failure to occur, and understand why nobody else here expected them to be true.

What's the simplest reason you can think of for a prophet to be wrong?
What's the simplest reason you can think of for a prophet to be wrong repeatedly?
If somebody you didn't believe had a similar record (i.e. repeatedly wrong) would you expect their next prediction to be true or false?
Do you expect Ka Apaz's next prediction to be true or false?
 
This is utterly idiotic and an off-topic distraction from this thread.

Where is the end of the world that your spirit predicted? It is Thursday here in the US. All is peaceful and quiet.

When will you admit that you were wrong?

When will you agree to shut up and stop spreading your garbage?


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@AdMan, #3190

Do I have to ignore everything that the spirit says? No. I will just pick up what I think will be good for my soul and discard what I think is evil.

I would like to clarify that even though we will have World War III, it will NOT be the end of the world. God will still leave one-third of mankind (http://aristean.org/transcript046.htm ). But instead of the population exploding again, it will even decrease until there will just be very few persons who will be left behind sometime in the year 2200. Then the population will grow again for one thousand years.

Is a war between China and the US possible at this time? Yes. Is there a dispute where the Philippines is involved that could trigger this war? Yes. Spratly Island dispute. Please watch the videos that I just posted.
 
What is important is that one which we can only take with us when we die
We don't take anything with us when we die, so what is important is what we leave behind - how much better or worse the world is as a result of our having lived. What is your legacy going to be, PeaceCrusader? How much will you have increased the sum total of human happiness, and will it be by more than you have increased the sum total of human misery?
 
Is a war between China and the US possible at this time? Yes. Is there a dispute where the Philippines is involved that could trigger this war? Yes. Spratly Island dispute. Please watch the videos that I just posted.

I think at least part of your problem is the need to imagine a minor 3rd World country as an international force to be reckoned with.
 
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