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Why did the prophecies fail? I reread the conversation with the spirit. He said Wednesday and the 2012 Olympic Games in London when I went to the Philippines three months ago (2012-05). Maybe, it was not the Opening Ceremony that he is referring to but the whole Olympic Games. There are two Wednesdays in it – 08-01 and 08-08. The day 08-01 came and went and there was no war. Now, what is left is 08-08.
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PC you have two problems now facing you.

1. You have no credibility left
2. You have no integrity

When in a hole, stop digging. Many on here praised and admired you for admitting you were wrong on this forum. Since then, instead of leaving it there in the ascendance, you have been re-writing your original posts, retracting on your agreements and assurances with posters on here, in a futile effort to reverse your humiliations.

The outcome is the worse possible case scenario for you, so why do you keep coming back to receive more humiiation and punishment from those who you acknowledge are intelligent and insightful people?
 
I came to this forum of intelligent, atheistic and sceptic people to get their views of what a spirit revealed that a world war will originate from the Philippines in the middle of this year and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held.
First, not all of us are atheists, a fact which has been pointed out to you, but one which you keep ignoring.

Second, you refuse to entertain the simple and obvious conclusion that you have not been talking to any spirit at all - that you are simply mistaken, and that you have just been talking with a senile or dishonest old woman. Note that this explanation works quite well whether or not God actually exists.

Third, your predictions are obviously nonsense - sudden thermonuclear war over a relatively minor diplomatic spat, 200,000,000 troops out of nowhere with no way to get anywhere, and absolutely idiotic claims about the outcomes of a massive nuclear exchange.

Worst of all, though, your predictions have failed spectacularly, but you did not keep your word in your initial pseudo-admission of failure, and in your arrogance refuse to consider that you are simply wrong about the whole thing.

Why did the prophecies fail?
Because you haven't been listening to a prophet, but merely a lying or delusional human being.

Do not believe me as a prophet.
No one believes you at all, especially not as a prophet. Gullible and dishonest, sure, but certainly no kind of prophet, and you're carrying no message from any prophet either.

When this Wednesday is done, with no war, you still won't admit your premise was completely wrong and your source a phony. You'll blame some interpretation, or some spirit, but you won't just say "I was wrong about the whole thing.". Nor will you say you are glad billions of people didn't die horrible deaths after all. Your pose of humility is just that, and your handle is a gross misrepresentation.
 
Ching Chong Chinaman sitting on a fence
Tryin' to make a dollar out of fifty cents


I do love the confidence that each Tuesday brings, Peace. You are so full of yourself and your Holy Spirit with only twelve hours to go before the commencement of Armageddon that one would think you were matter-of-factly announcing that the 9:07 to Dubuque will leave from track six, as scheduled.

And yet, week after week, the train doesn't show up, doesn't depart on time, and leaves you standing on the platform with soot and egg all over your face.

I have to hand it to you. If I failed as often as you have, I'd pack it all in but you're out there rooting for the end of the world with every passing day. And, I have no doubt that you'll be back mid-Wednesday in shock and chagrin and making noises about reforming but then a day or two will pass and you'll go cherry-pick another interpretation so that you can keep this evil fantasy going.

And it is.... Evil, that is. I'm all for doing away with a priori value judgments but some such do exist, I feel. And what you're doing truly smacks of evil. If there was a God, he'd strike you dead for abusing Him in this way. And as I've said before, you purport to be a follower of the little baby Jeebus, but you equally seem to have missed his message of Love and forgiveness. You just want to see the world erupt into a violent confrontation that will wipe out 2/3 of the Earth's citizens. No "god" is that uncool (well, maybe Zeus... but we've progressed beyond that era, haven't we).
 
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Well, you know...

There's more than one calendar. PC can fall back behind this line for shelter. Chinese, Jewish, Hindu, Mayan calendars... He can even detach himself even more from reality and create a heavenly calendar, along the lines of the "language of heaven" the scammer fooled him to believe the spirit was speaking. There's plenty of space to retreat.

"I've been fooled" is not an option. Dancing on the graves of billions, however, is desirable.
 
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I came to this forum of intelligent, atheistic and sceptic people

Not everyone here is an atheist. Not everyone here is intelligent, certainly not in all arenas, although we try our best to educate each other in the spirit of bettering ourselves.

I had my interpretations of his prophecies. I first guessed that it will happen under the zodiac sign of Cancer because the middle day of the year, July 1, is the 183rd day of 366 days. So my 31 days under Cancer was reduced to just four days, 06-27, 07-04, 07-11, and 07-18. It was logical to think 07-04 because it is the Independence Day of the US. The sneak attack on the US might happen on this day. But the day came and went. No war.

Then the only Wednesday under Cancer, 07-18, was the only one left, and I guessed that it would be it. Again, 07-18 came and went. No war. So it was not the zodiac sign after all.

First you tell us that it's the Holy Spirit, and then you invoke the sign of Cancer? I would suggest you read the Bible (specifically Jer 10:2, 27:9-10, Daniel 2:1-4, 4:7, and especially, Isaiah 47:10-14a). Not that I proclaim them to be true, but they point out the utter lack of foundation in your reasoning. The Bible specifically guides its believers away from astrology. Unless you're talking of a Holy Spirit that has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit that's in the Christian Bible, but I don't think a great number of people would make that same distinction.

Why did the prophecies fail?

What we have here is a binary solution set. Either the prophecies weren't true, or you misinterpreted them. You have assumed that they are true and gone straight to the explanation of a misinterpretation. Can you explain why you did so? What confirmed, past, irrefutable proof of the possession of this woman by the Holy Spirit made you automatically assume that the prophecies were true, just simply misinterpreted?


I guess that the world war that he said back in 1986 will happen on this date. If 07-01 is the middle day of the year, and June and July are the middle months of the year, then is August still in the middle of the year? If we divide the year into quarters, August is in the third quarter. The second and third quarters are the middle quarters of the year.

So by your definition, fully half the year is the middle of the year - 180 days are the "middle" of the year. Take a step back, look at this, and tell me - honestly - that it makes sense to you.

Do not believe me as a prophet.

Oh, don't worry....have no concerns in that arena.

I am not a prophet. I am just echoing what I heard.

And so do some breeds of parrots. It's a tossup as to which brings more entertainment value.

The final decision is still with you.

Thank goodness for that! You see, the God that *I* believe in always gives me the final decision. I'm relieved to know that the inane mumblings of a disturbed and possibly mentally deranged old woman have not deprived me of my right to make a final decision.

My post probably comes off as less than civil. You see, PeaceCrusader (what a strange choice of screen-name, by the way, when you are crusading for war to break out)...you see, I am like most human beings. I'm neutral, perhaps even leaning towards good-natured, towards most other humans that I encounter. My attitude towards them from that point on relies entirely on our interaction together.

You have stated repeatedly that you were crushed and devastated that most of the worlds population didn't die in a horrific war. You've told several bold-faced lies, not the least of which was your promise to stop mentioning prophecy when a certain date came....which it did, yet you continued. Perhaps your most egregious crime is that you are giving believers in Christ, and believers in benevolent deities in general, a worse reputation than we already have - and that's a pretty impressive feat, let me tell you that.

There are people on this forum, myself among them, who may still have enough good will towards you to help you educate yourself towards a better life. Spiritual, not spiritual, either way there are people here who can help guide you to a more rewarding life. We won't pretend to be channeling Jesus, we won't make prophecies about the Olympic Games, we won't pretend to be "better" than you, but we might be able to give you tips on how to improve what is (apparently) a rather sad existence. Recommend books to broaden your view. Give you tips on critical thinking. Etc.

Before any of that can happen, however, you *must* let go of your incorrect beliefs that this woman you trust is doing anything but misleading you. WWIII will not start tomorrow. I'm willing to wait until that fact hits you in the face like a locomotive. If you'd like help putting the pieces together afterwards, feel free to PM me, and I'll try to help you.
 
Take a pair of rabbits who
Get stuck each other and begin to woo
And pretty soon you'll find a million more rabbits who
Say I love you

I came to this forum of intelligent, atheistic and sceptic people to get their views of what a spirit revealed that a world war will originate from the Philippines in the middle of this year and that the 2012 Olympic Games in London will not be held.


PeaceCrusader, we will all still be here on August 9. Many will gladly assist you in moving to the post-apocalyptic stage of your life. There are people here who can help you learn about astronomy, to replace the rubbishy astrology that has led you astray. There are people here who can teach you about biology and environmental concerns--so that, the next time birds fall from the sky, you can seek natural explanations for why it happened, rather than simply assuming that a god did it. You will find people who can discuss glossolalia and channeling in terms of psychology and theatrics rather than "spiritual" possession. You can learn to recognize instances of ideomotor effects and pareidolia, so that you need no longer be alarmed at Ouija board responses and insignificant arrangements of post office boxes. Members here can help you to spot the logical fallacies of your own and other people's reasoning. You can live a broader mental, spiritual and emotional life, if only you open your mind to alternative explanations of why the prophecies had to all fail.

You don't need to be "devastated" by disappointment again when you awake this Thursday and discover that two-thirds of the world is not dying or dead. If you have the courage to challenge yourself, skepticism can lead you to a better understanding of why you wanted that horrible prophecy to come true. And you can find the tools here to replace those fantasies with something richer, more empathetic and compassionate, than the imaginary vengeful deity who has fooled you for many years.

Teh Holy SpookTM cannot prevent the London Olympics from continuing on their exciting, unpredictable course.

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4 - Australian Gold Medals in the Olympics.

Wednesday is nearly 7 hours old in beautiful downtown Lara, and no sign of World War III. I heard a loud noise earlier, but it turned out to be my alarm clock going off.

Norm
 
Another Wednesday arrives without a war.
And the Olympics go on, the greatest show on Earth.
The Mars Lander is the greatest show off Earth.
PC's gotta move them goalposts yet again
 
Another Wednesday arrives without a war.
And the Olympics go on, the greatest show on Earth.
The Mars Lander is the greatest show off Earth.
PC's gotta move them goalposts yet again
For a while, I thought he might have some honesty, but no.

When 8/8 passes, I expect no more than a further shift of the goalposts.
 
Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?


I am pretty sure they will - though I suppose I could be wrong.....Time will tell!!!
 
When Thursday dawns it will be obvious that my Welsh speaking holy spirit is the true holy spirit who prophesied through me that the war will not take place on Wed 8 August.
 
11 o'clock tick tock.

Here in the UK it's one hour and two minutes till the next end of the world.

Time to patent those goalpost powered heavy lift boosters.
 
11 o'clock tick tock.

Here in the UK it's one hour and two minutes till the next end of the world.

Time to patent those goalpost powered heavy lift boosters.

They will be the first goalposts ever to achieve escape velocity.
 
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