Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[PeaceCrusader]

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs


PC, I want to look at this from a different angle and get your comments.

Why does your god only speak in a relatively minor language? As an omniscient being, I would think he/she/it could speak in all languages - or at least one more commonly used on Earth. Like Chinese, for example, since that is the language of those who he/she/it predicts will rule over the nations of the Earth after WWIII.

Why do YOU have to do the translation to English? Why can't he/she/it provide the same message in all languages?

And finally, don't you find it a bit odd that your god happens to speak only the language of the crone? Surely that must make you at least somewhat suspicious.

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@SezMe, #2959

You may call the language Filipino as “a relatively minor language”. Is 22,000,000 native speakers a minor language? The official languages of the Philippines are Filipino and English. The population is about 90,000,000, out of which 75% can understand Filipino.

I have said that the teaching of the kingdom of God has been relegated from the Jews to the Filipinos. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 21:42-44 that it will be given to a nation “bringing forth the fruits thereof” (http://aristean.org/wp085.htm titled “Taken from the Jews”).

Why does the spirit speak only in Filipino? Because the woman Ka Apaz is a native Filipino. I think the spirit can understand all languages, both living and dead languages.

Why do I have to translate the Filipino text to English? So that those who do not understand Filipino may understand what he says in the presently most widely used language in the world, English.

FYI, I have a tape recording of Ka Apaz speaking in a language that is unkown to her, what I, and others, believe to be the language in Heaven.

 

[icerat]

well done Mr Murray

 

[Akhenaten]

This above all; to thine own self be true.

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Because God is in each of us. God knows what we say, and even what we think. Even without uttering a single word.

According to your own criterion the thing on behalf of which you are preaching here is, at best, a false god.

Did I not say that the difference between the only true God and false gods is prophecy? The only true God can prophesy whereas the false gods cannot prophesy.

According to the criteria established by objective reality it's just a delusion.

Rock PeaceCrusader Hard Place.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Well, PC? Or will you just move those highly mobile goalposts again?

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@dafydd, #2958

There is no need to move the goal posts. The spirit said in message 1944 on page 49 about the 2012 Olympic Games in London. That is the stop point. I believe that the world war that he said in 1986-06 will happen this Wednesday, 08-08. He said that this Games will really not be held or completed. I do not know the time. Just be prepared. Are you, dafydd, prepared already? It is just three days from today.

Just think. Why did the spirit say that the world war will happen on a Wednesday? Why not a particular month and year?

Also, why the 2012 Olympic Games? Is there any other events of worldwide significance that is better than the Olympics?

 

[Marcus]

You are trying to reason with PC, pointing out that there's nothing logical about invoking supernatural entities to explain life?

It's silly, I know, I don't really expect PC to respond to reason, or even respond at all, but it's fun in a perverse way.

 

[blue sock monkey]

I dreamed last night of the three Weïrd Sisters.

I believe that there is a sprit, a holy spirit, THE Holy Spirit, who uses the physical body of a blind woman in the Philippines to talk to people. I have noticed is that when the Holy Spirit is in her body, He knows who are present. He even saw, for example, Benigno Santos grinning. Even when a person does not make a sound, He sees him.

Another example is when He acknowledges the greetings of each person present in the room. We just say “Mano po, Ama” (no physical contact - placing the hand of the Holy Spirit on the forehead as a sign of greeting). His acknowledgment is “The grace of God be with you as long as you live.” He knows if there are few or many attendees. He knows the number.

FYI, dafydd, the spirit in his response to each one who says “Mano po, Ama” does not touch anyone’s forehead. The people may have finished greeting the spirit but his response goes on until he has responded to each one, no matter how feeble it might have been. The spirit knows who greeted him. For example, there were ten people in the room and only eight greeted him, then only eight responses will be heard. Why does he know this? Because God is in each of us. God knows what we say, and even what we think. Even without uttering a single word.

There is nothing the least bit mystical about such incidents. Have you sought natural explanations, for instance:

• The "blind" woman may not be completely blind.
  
  
• Sight-impaired people often develop their senses to a high degree of acuity--hearing especially, but also others.
  
  
• The blind woman may have a confederate present.

Until you have ruled out these and other possible commonplace explanations, I remain singularly unimpressed by such childish party tricks.

 

[Akhenaten]

'Tis best to weigh the enemy more mighty than he seems.

Why do I have to translate the Filipino text to English? So that those who do not understand Filipino may understand what he says in the presently most widely used language in the world, English.

Why are you posting this (according to you) vital information in a place where there is next to no chance that it will be believed?

 

[Akhenaten]

What is past is prologue.

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@dafydd, #2958

There is no need to move the goal posts. The spirit said in message 1944 on page 49 about the 2012 Olympic Games in London. That is the stop point. I believe that the world war that he said in 1986-06 will happen this Wednesday, 08-08. He said that this Games will really not be held or completed. I do not know the time. Just be prepared. Are you, dafydd, prepared already? It is just three days from today.

Just think. Why did the spirit say that the world war will happen on a Wednesday? Why not a particular month and year?

Also, why the 2012 Olympic Games? Is there any other events of worldwide significance that is better than the Olympics?

I would like to apologize to all of you. I am deeply sorry. I will refrain from discussing prophecies anymore and be tight-lipped on this.

You lied.

 

[blue sock monkey]

Now thou and I are new in amity,
And will tomorrow midnight solemnly
Dance in Duke Theseus' house, triumphantly.

'Tis best to weigh the enemy more mighty than he seems.

Why are you posting this (according to you) vital information in a place where there is next to no chance that it will be believed?

You earn bonus points in heaven for taking on skeptics. Those who preach the faith to such heathens get to sit at the right hand of the person who is at the right hand of the person who is at the right hand (continue repeating till you get dizzy) of that saint whose name I can never remember.

 

[Akhenaten]

Once more unto the breach, dear friends.

Now thou and I are new in amity,
And will tomorrow midnight solemnly
Dance in Duke Theseus' house, triumphantly.



You earn bonus points in heaven for taking on skeptics. Those who preach the faith to such heathens get to sit at the right hand of the person who is at the right hand of the person who is at the right hand (continue repeating till you get dizzy) of that saint whose name I can never remember.

Words without thoughts never to heaven go.

 

[blue sock monkey]

The King doth keep his revels here tonight.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends.

Words without thoughts never to heaven go.

Be cheque'd for silence,
But never tax'd for speech. What heaven more will,
That thee may furnish and my prayers pluck down,
Fall on thy head!​

 

[Agatha]

And three times thrice is nine (More Shakespeare)

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@dafydd, #2958

There is no need to move the goal posts. The spirit said in message 1944 on page 49 about the 2012 Olympic Games in London. That is the stop point. I believe that the world war that he said in 1986-06 will happen this Wednesday, 08-08. He said that this Games will really not be held or completed.

It may have escaped your notice, but we are coming to the end of day 9 of the Olympics. It's absolute nonsense to suggest they are "really not be[ing] held"

I do not know the time. Just be prepared. Are you, dafydd, prepared already? It is just three days from today.

I know I'll regret asking this, but what preparations do you think dafydd, in Belgium, should make? Or any of us, in various places around the world? I was in London for the weekend but I've just got home to the Midlands in England; although I live in a rural area I'm within 15 miles of a major city so would be close to ground zero of a nuclear strike.

What preparations should any of us take to escape annihilation in a global nuclear war? Please don't suggest duct tape and draught excluders, those would be akin to attempting to stop a bullet with a sheet of tissue paper.

Just think. Why did the spirit say that the world war will happen on a Wednesday? Why not a particular month and year?

There is no spirit, but you have been lied to when you have been told that war will erupt on Wednesday. It will not happen.

Also, why the 2012 Olympic Games? Is there any other events of worldwide significance that is better than the Olympics?

Depending on how much one loves sport, many or none. Why your fake medium chose the Olympics to hang her nonsense on is a question only she can answer. I hope it's a question you will be putting to her to find out why she lied to you.

 

[Mojo]

Why does the spirit speak only in Filipino? Because the woman Ka Apaz is a native Filipino.

 

[blue sock monkey]

I understand thee, and can
speak thy tongue. Kerelybonto, sir, betake thee to thy
faith, for seventeen poniards are at thy bosom.

Why does the spirit speak only in Filipino? Because the woman Ka Apaz is a native Filipino. I think the spirit can understand all languages, both living and dead languages.

I hereby vow to spend an hour every day attempting to root out any similar instances of such "logic" from my own thought processes.

 

[dafydd]

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@dafydd, #2958

There is no need to move the goal posts. The spirit said in message 1944 on page 49 about the 2012 Olympic Games in London. That is the stop point. I believe that the world war that he said in 1986-06 will happen this Wednesday, 08-08. He said that this Games will really not be held or completed. I do not know the time. Just be prepared. Are you, dafydd, prepared already? It is just three days from today.

Just think. Why did the spirit say that the world war will happen on a Wednesday? Why not a particular month and year?

Also, why the 2012 Olympic Games? Is there any other events of worldwide significance that is better than the Olympics?

Bollocks. See you next Thursday.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

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...Why does the spirit speak only in Filipino? Because the woman Ka Apaz is a native Filipino. I think the spirit can understand all languages, both living and dead languages.

Why do I have to translate the Filipino text to English? So that those who do not understand Filipino may understand what he says in the presently most widely used language in the world, English.

FYI, I have a tape recording of Ka Apaz speaking in a language that is unkown to her, what I, and others, believe to be the language in Heaven.

6-2, 6-1, 6-4


You think that of all the languages there have ever been in the history of the human race, the 'spirit' chooses Filipino simply because Ka Apaz speaks Filipino?

You will be aware, naturally, that we believe the 'spirit' speaks Filipino because Ka Apaz is pretending to be the spirit.

It would have done your case a lot more good if the spirit had chosen to speak German, or Swahili, or Latin, or any other language Ka Apaz does not know. You may be sure that we who are unimpressed by the spirit's language skills so far are merely amused by your crazy assumption that when 'He' speaks unintelligible gibberish this may be the unknown language of heaven.

Go and record yourself asking the spirit if He will please give you a prophecy in Russian or Cantonese, then maybe someone will listen.

 

[Ravenwood]

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@dafydd, #2960

FYI, dafydd, the spirit in his response to each one who says “Mano po, Ama” does not touch anyone’s forehead. The people may have finished greeting the spirit but his response goes on until he has responded to each one, no matter how feeble it might have been. The spirit knows who greeted him. For example, there were ten people in the room and only eight greeted him, then only eight responses will be heard. Why does he know this? Because God is in each of us. God knows what we say, and even what we think. Even without uttering a single word.

Peace Crusader, in you example above, why would the spirit not acknowlege all 10 people rather than the 8 who greeted him? It's no surprise that "the spirit" would know about the 8, THEY JUST FREAKING GREETED HIM! The fact that it was unaware of the other two is just more proof your spook is a fraud...It was wrong about the Egyptian princess, it was wrong about the date of the crucifiction, it was wrong about King Philip I...the list just goes on, and you choose to be blind to the fact that the answers were in front of your face all the time...And now that this "prophecy" is shown to be wrong, you try to twist it to somehow actually be right. Denial is not a river in Egypt...

 

[dafydd]

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I am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit.

I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

Well, PC?

 

[dafydd]

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If World War III does not start before the 2012 Olympic Games in London, then I will say that He is a false god.
How about you, timhau? Will you believe Him if the 2012 Olympic Games does not start as planned?

He said on 2012-05-01 that it will be a Wednesday. It narrowed down my choices to 06-27, 07-04, 07-11, and 07-18 from between 06-21 and 07-21 inclusive. I chose 07-04. But I don’t know Wednesday in which place. Is it in China, in the Philippines, in the US? Just be prepared on any of these Wednesdays, especially on 07-04 in the US. And tape it. Why in the US?

And this^

 

[dafydd]

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@dafydd, #2960

FYI, dafydd, the spirit in his response to each one who says “Mano po, Ama” does not touch anyone’s forehead. The people may have finished greeting the spirit but his response goes on until he has responded to each one, no matter how feeble it might have been. The spirit knows who greeted him. For example, there were ten people in the room and only eight greeted him, then only eight responses will be heard. Why does he know this?

Think.