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@wollery, #1700

You are a great help, wollery, for translating poem number 56.

What are those that are flying but are not birds? Airplanes?
gymnasts, pole vaulters, spectators right at the top of the stadium watching Usain Bolt flying to win the 100m men's final.

What are those that are diving in the sea but are not fish? Submarines?
the poem doesn't say "living in the sea", it says "swimming they are not fish" It is an obvious reference to the aquatic events at the 2012 games (for which I have tickets) it's referring to the swimmers and divers.
“War is not soldiers” may mean that a war does not necessarily mean that soldiers are needed, like now. Just push the button and a missile is fired. That is why in the picture, fire spewed out of the combatants’ mouths. Why is war included in the poem if it is just about the Olympic Games?
now this is a very clever reference to both the Olympic Games and Peter Gabriel's song Games Without Frontiers. It's referencing the song lyrics where Gabriel calls the Olympic events games without frontiers, war without tears.

Why does Alex Chiu’s translation have the following:
“Millions of miles of deadly smoke, on top a mushroom and at bottom a fountain.
A sight out of people's imagination. Big trouble not solved, but greater trouble arrives.”

Are these additions by Alex or there are characters left out? We may have to get the whole 56th poem.
Dishonest additions by Alex Chiu, as we noted earlier in the thread.

You may be correct in saying “Good luck for the games.” The games may refer to the Olympic Games.
that seems to be a far better interpretation than the idea of a 7th century poet talking about world war III.

The Holy Spirit said that there will be earthquake (“lilindol”) for eight hours. I said and the Holy Spirit confirmed that the quaking or shaking of the earth will be due to the ground shaking as a result of the detonation of the nuclear bomb.
in the first place, it's not the holy spirit you have been talking to, but a deluded or fraudulent blind woman. Secondly, as you related the conversation earlier, you 'filled in the blanks' when the prophecy was for eight hours of shaking, you added earthquakes and nuclear bombs to try to make sense of the so-called prediction.

Thirdly, tape round your doors and windows, draught excluders and three days' worth of food are not sufficient to allow you or anyone else to survive a nuclear conflagration on the sort of scale you are predicting.

If your prediction comes true, we'll all either be dead or we will be living in a world so changed that society as we know it will cease to exist, where the effects of radiation and water-borne diseases will mean that few people will survive more than a few days after the blasts. There will not be shops, transport, power, clean water, government (local or national); we will, as I said above, be reduced in very quick order to being hunter-gatherers but without anything to hunt or gather. You seem to think that you can avoid the smoke for three days and then normal life on a reduced scale will continue, that would not be the case.

Fortunately, none of these prophecies will happen. Tomorrow will pass without incident just like the preceding three Wednesdays, and I hope you have support from family and friends as it will not be easy to have to face the fact that you have been duped by Ka Apaz.
 
Why is war included in the poem if it is just about the Olympic Games?

Now playing: 5% for nothing (but not for long).

I don't know. Why was war included in Peter Gabriel's lyrics for "Jeux Sans Frontieres" if it was just about a daft TV game show?

If looks could kill, they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears

Possibly because war is a commonly and widely used metaphor for competitive sports.

Dave

ETA: Ninja posted by Agatha.
 
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1.36 pm in Flanders. No sign here of a nuclear strike and no invading Chinese army on the horizon. As for the drought, it has been raining almost non-stop for two weeks. The blind crazy woman is just that. Blind and crazy, no holy spirit involved.
 
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@Agatha, #1681

The Chinese characters of the 56th poem of Tui Bei Tu is found at http://resource.cozycenter.com/?p=541 . I think the Chinese characters there are the words of the poem.

It is accompanied by a drawing showing two soldiers with their hand-held weapons pointing downward and fire coming out of their mouths. There are two birds flying above and two fish jumping out of the water. Could you please give your interpretation of the poem and the picture?
Certainly.

First interpretation: The flames issuing from their mouths signify that a good hot curry is the best way to promote peace between nations. Peace is signified by them pointing their weapons downwards, the two birds signify the way that thoughts of anger and pain can fly away in good company over a good meal, and the fish signify that fish curries can be just as good as a lamb dopiaza when properly cooked and seasoned.

Second interpretation: The words of the poem say that they fly but are not birds, so the birds in the picture signify not birds but flying spirits who take the appearance of birds. Similarly, the fish are spirits taking the outward appearance of fish. The two men are shouting at each other (signified by the flames) and the weapons signify that they will soon be fighting. Overall, the picture tells us that belief in spirits, religion and other magical entities, even holy spirits, leads to conflict and war. Hence the picture is urging us to embrace rationality and scepticism as the best way to promote world peace and put an end to war.

Now it won't surprise you to know that I made up those interpretations as I went along, to demonstrate that whatever Lee Chung Feng meant in his original poetry is now lost, and that 1400 years later anyone can interpret pictures and poetry to mean just whatever they want them to mean.

Nobody can be sure of the original intended meaning behind the pictures and poetry of Tui Bei Tu, and attempting to force modern day interpretations on them is a fruitless exercise. They may, quite possibly, mean nothing at all.
 
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PC, I'd really like to know more about your real estate offer!
 
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I lead a life of crime....

If the Olympics do get cancelled because of the start of World War III, at least Nick Buckles will breathe a sigh of relief.
 
60% humidity in London

THIS offer:
After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time in this world. The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available. People will be living in planned cities and communities. Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

I'm interested in learning which city you think offers the best conditions in these circumstances.



Edited to add:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-18867521

Could this be the beginning of the end?
 
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Every morning in the mine you could see him arrive. He stood six foor six, weighed two forty-five.

This just in. The amphibious force in China is heading to the coast. So destruction may not come by air, but by sea. These are some of the mightiest fighting forces in China and in an amphibious assault? Why they take to it like a _____________ .



Alternate post: "The Ministry of Eating Really Cute Things has tasked the quartermaster corps with making sure the 20,000,000 invading soldiers get a decent breakfast."
 
More on the South Sea situation from
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/07/201271611508671548.html

...Envoys from 26 Asia-Pacific nations and the European Union (EU) have been meeting in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, to discuss regional security. But even before the start, Beijing asked everyone not to address the maritime mess; the official Chinese position is to negotiate a joint development of energy resources in all these disputed waters, according to spokesman Zhang Jianmin. ...
 
six for the six proud walkers

Many thanks, SezMe. If you could let me have the title of the book I will submit a correction to the dictionary where I found the history of the word.
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This one. I'm not a Civil War fan but this book was quite engaging.
 
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