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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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TheRedWorm said:
So to understand this thread properly; Roberts irreducible delusion is that eyewitness are more reliable than physical evidence, and his masochistic lie is that the z film doesn't show anything of note. That about sum it up?
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It shows nothing of note while at the same time confirming his theory(whatever it is).
 
bynmdsue said:
WTF?

I sincerely hope you don't think that is real. Given your support of other wild flights of fancy it's hard to tell when yer kidding.
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Well, one thing we notice is that though the stream is far too long, it is in a tight cone of dispersion. This suggests a small through hole through which the blood is forced. One example would be a short to medium range through and through impact. Or if Robert were genuinely convinced of a jet effect going uprange towards the shooter from a small entry wound.

Compare that the cloud of the actual exit wound. The one Robert tries to claim was an entry wound...

The irony is impressive.
 
Robert Prey said:
"When Frazier appeared before the Commission and was asked to demonstrate how Oswald carried the package, he said, 'Like I said, I remember that I didn't look at the package very much...but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.' and at this point Frazier placed the upper part of the package under his armpit and attempted to cup his right hand beneath the bottom of the bag. The disassembled rifle was to long to be carried in this manner." -- Warren Report, Page 134
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So Frazier could not hold the package the same way that he recalls Oswald holding it. Does that mean that Oswald could not hold it in that manner?

Possibly Frazier had much shorter arms?

It's also possible that Oswald held the package next to his body to disguise it's length and did not cup his fingers under the package, because Frazier simply didn't pay much attention to it at the time. Like I said, I remember that I didn't look at the package very much...
 
vtbub said:
And Mr. Prey gets bammed for awhile.


Wow.
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Just when he was about to explain why the massive exit wound wasn't there when JFK left the plaza, was there when Parkland staff claim to have seen it, but gone again for the autopsy.

But then that would mean conceding the possibility that the Parkland testemony is wrong, and material evidence may be valid. Who knows perhaps the autopsy was not faked, and the photographic record accurate. Perhaps Oswald did get spotted shooting Tippet after all. Maybe, just maybe, people can remember wrong.
 
I don't what you guys are hoping for.
The horse is dead.
In fact, it always has been.
It cannot be revived.
 
RoboTimbo said:
So why do they do it, I Ratant? Any insight into their motivation?
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A desire to educate?
RP has shown an invulnerability to education.
His mind is set in concrete, and can't be changed.
A need to get the last word in?
If someone would back through the many pages of this and erase all the duplicate posts where the -same- argument is presented, and -same- images are presented, the thread would 36 pages shorter.:rolleyes:
 
I Ratant said:
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A desire to educate?
RP has shown an invulnerability to education.
His mind is set in concrete, and can't be changed.
A need to get the last word in?
If someone would back through the many pages of this and erase all the duplicate posts where the -same- argument is presented, and -same- images are presented, the thread would 36 pages shorter.:rolleyes:
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My fault. I meant, why do the CTwits do it? Why do they embrace cognitive dissonance that would be painful for normal people?
 
RoboTimbo said:
My fault. I meant, why do the CTwits do it? Why do they embrace cognitive dissonance that would be painful for normal people?
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The same reason a 5-year-old acts up when being ignored. It gets attention and they get heard. You'll notice that on the 9/11 forum, the truthers have dwindled down to a few and those left are in it just to get a rise.

You'll notice here that Robert has really not presented any theory outside of the fatal shot coming from he front. It's because he doesn't really have one. He makes absurd claim 1, we jump, he gets attention and rinse and repeat. The reason he's dragged this out so far is that he really has no idea on what happened. Kinda like those left on the 9/11 forum.
 
vtbub said:
You'll notice here that Robert has really not presented any theory outside of the fatal shot coming from he front.
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I asked him what his hypothesis was a while back and he actually gave one (three weeks ago).
Robert Prey said:
RoboTimbo said:
What hypothesis are you putting forward for how JFK was killed and what is your single best piece of evidence for your hypothesis?
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JFK was killed by a bullet or bullets fired to his head, at least one of which came from the Grassy Knoll. I'll get into the evidence for this conclusion in a few days time after these other discussions diminish.
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That marked him as an amateur JFK CT. Most of them have learned that once they give their own hypothesis, they are so busy unsuccessfully defending it that they don't have time to fling out their minutia. I think Robert has learned that lesson here, what with his feet looking like Swiss cheese, the poor kid.
 
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Wht do the CTwinkies seem immune to changing their minds?
When I first paid attention to JFK 20 years ago, I picked up "High Treason" and couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Bald faced misrepresentations of the information those two twits were discussing.
I'd known about the idiotic Zig-Zag bullet crap from Lane, but this one had that and more downright falsehoods.
I then picked up a copy of the WCR to see what it really said, and found that all the novels published about JFK are all from the same mold... Lie, lie and lie.
If the reader isn't too swift, and can't see the lies, he will adopt the explanation of the novel that has imprinted him, and defend it vigorously!
They've made the mental commitment, and will never admit they could be wrong.
Since then, I've talked to some of the novelists, and found them superficial to ludicrous.
 
The Best (?) Of Robert Prey

And while we're waiting for Master Prey to get out of after school detention, some Stundie nominated quotes.

Robert Prey said:
My assumptions are correct and being common knowledge, are immune from attack.
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Robert Prey said:
Oswald claimed to be a Marxist, but actually was a loyal patriotic American who loved his country, loved his president, was a former US Marine, worked for Naval Intelligence, as well as an operative for CIA and FBI, was sent to USSR after having been sheep dipped as a disloyal American, but never revoked his citizenship, was apparently sent to language school so that he could speak fluent Russian, then sent to USSR so that he could spy for the US. While he made a big splash with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, he was also working with anti-Castro groups at the same time. Someday, when the full truth is accepted, he should be posthumously awarded the Medal of Freedom.
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Robert Prey said:
I see a shot from the front blowing out his head producing a predictable jet effect spray of blood, brain and tissue. You see only what you want to see. I also see Jackie turning around to the trunk to try to retrieve a chunk of the JFK's brain blown away from the back of his head. But it's all subject to interpretation, which is why my proof of a second shooter lies in the un-assailable statements of the Parkland Personnel, not the Z film.
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