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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Tomtomkent said:
Gosh no exit wound you say? Look at the uncropped version of the photo lined above. See the big hole in JFKs head? No? Ok that explains everything.
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The Moorman pic appears to be taken before the shot to the head. Your other death stare pic shows the entry wound at the right temple, and a mass of hair, blood and God knows what else in the back. The head is not turned, but one can infer from the supporting rest in the back, that the back of the head has been blasted out. Of course, you will see what you want to see. But the 30 plus witnesses are the Best Evidence.
 
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Robert Prey said:
The Moorman pic appears to be taken before the shot to the head. Your other death stare pic shows the entry wound at the right temple, and a mass of hair, blood and God knows what else in the back. The head is not turned, but one can infer from the supporting rest in the back, that the back of the head has been blasted out. Of course, you will see what you want to see. But the 30 plus witnesses are the Best Evidence.
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Then look at this photograph (same site as the other one).
It is taken from behind and it clearly shows an intact back of the head as well as a hole on the right front (as witnessed by the piece of skull bone/inside of skin being visible).
 
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The polaroid is after the shots were fired. The possition of JFK and jackie match the z film, the location ofthe motorcade recognisable. Why is there no exit wound on the back of the head?

What is the large hole, on the top front of jfks head in the death stare photo when uncropped?
 
erwinl said:
Then look at this photograph (same site as the other one).
It is taken from behind and it clearly shows an intact back of the head as well as a hole on the right front (as witnessed by the piece of skull bone/inside of skin being visible).
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That photo (if it is a photo) is provably fake. Not only does it contradict the 30 or so witnesses at Parkland and Bethesda, but it clearly does not match the death stare photo http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/history/news-jfk-autopsies-and-conspiries-photos?image=7
 
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Tomtomkent said:
The polaroid is after the shots were fired. The possition of JFK and jackie match the z film, the location ofthe motorcade recognisable. Why is there no exit wound on the back of the head?

What is the large hole, on the top front of jfks head in the death stare photo when uncropped?
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There is no large hole at the front of the head.
 
Robert Prey said:
That photo (if it is a photo) is provably fake. Not only does it contradict the 30 or so witnesses at Parkland and Bethesda, but it clearly does not match the death stare photo http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/history/news-jfk-autopsies-and-conspiries-photos?image=7
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Are there NO witnesses who confirm the hole at the front of Kennedy's head? None?

In this Photgraph you can even see the entry hole at the back of the skull.
It's a bit hard to see but it is just to the right of the third number from the top of the ruler.
 
erwinl said:
Are there NO witnesses who confirm the hole at the front of Kennedy's head? None?

In this Photgraph you can even see the entry hole at the back of the skull.
It's a bit hard to see but it is just to the right of the third number from the top of the ruler.
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Of course. That's the official script. And it avoids having to look for the others involved in the conspiracy. As far as other witnesses that report a small entry wound in the back, and a large one in the front, you won't find any of them among first hand witnesses at Parkland.
 
That photo (if it is a photo) is provably fake. Not only does it contradict the 30 or so witnesses at Parkland and Bethesda, but it clearly does not match the death stare photo http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com...photos?image=7
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But the death stare photo blows your theory, it clearly shows an exit wound at the front, not the back.

Whats wrong with you?
You cant be so blind you must just be acting daft.
 
Robert Prey said:
Of course. That's the official script. And it avoids having to look for the others involved in the conspiracy. As far as other witnesses that report a small entry wound in the back, and a large one in the front, you won't find any of them among first hand witnesses at Parkland.
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That's not what I asked.
I didn't ask for witnesses who said there was a small entry wound in the back, and a large one in the front.
I asked for witnesses to a large hole at the front of the head.
 
erwinl said:
That's not what I asked.
I didn't ask for witnesses who said there was a small entry wound in the back, and a large one in the front.
I asked for witnesses to a large hole at the front of the head.
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Sir, why don't you want to do your own homework?
 
So to understand this thread properly; Roberts irreducible delusion is that eyewitness are more reliable than physical evidence, and his masochistic lie is that the z film doesn't show anything of note. That about sum it up?
 
TheRedWorm said:
So to understand this thread properly; Roberts irreducible delusion is that eyewitness are more reliable than physical evidence, and his masochistic lie is that the z film doesn't show anything of note. That about sum it up?
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There's a whole lot the Z film shows and doesn't show according to live witnesses on the scene. It is not a reliable piece of evidence. And there is much controversy over missing frames. How can you cite a film as evidence that is not a complete rendition of the event???


`1988
"This year, the original Zapruder slide set was transferred within the Archives; at that time, it was found to be missing frames 180, 321, 349 and 372. The reproduction set was found to be missing fraomes 164-170, and 344-486, but these were never part of the original set." ( Archives memo)

http://www.jfklancer.com/History-Z.html
 
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Robert Prey said:
The Moorman pic appears to be taken before the shot to the head. Your other death stare pic shows the entry wound at the right temple, and a mass of hair, blood and God knows what else in the back. The head is not turned, but one can infer from the supporting rest in the back, that the back of the head has been blasted out. Of course, you will see what you want to see. But the 30 plus witnesses are the Best Evidence.
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Ah, I see now why you are so wrong about everything. Try reading this:

Warren Commission Report said:
The President's Head Wounds

The detailed autopsy of President Kennedy performed on the night of November 22 at the Bethesda Naval Hospital led the three examining pathologists to conclude that the smaller hole in the rear of the President's skull was the point of entry and that the large opening on the right side of his head was the wound of exit.
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Pages 86 & 87. You didn't read them, did you?
And this from the same pages:

Commander Humes testified: "The wound on the inner table, however, was larger and had what in the field of wound ballistics is described as a shelving or coning effect."155 After studying the other hole in the President's skull, Commander Humes stated: "... we concluded that the large defect to the upper right side of the skull, in fact, would represent a wound of exit."
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That would be "Comdr. James J. Humes, senior pathologist and director of laboratories at the Bethesda Naval Hospital, who acted as chief autopsy surgeon"

Is Commander Humes lying or simply mistaken about the autopsy he did on President Kennedy?

Answer the question, Robert.
 
Robert Prey said:
Of course. That's the official script. And it avoids having to look for the others involved in the conspiracy. As far as other witnesses that report a small entry wound in the back, and a large one in the front, you won't find any of them among first hand witnesses at Parkland.
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Bang Bang! Two more shots to your feet!
 
Robert Prey said:
Originally Posted by Noztradamus
Yes, Robert, I know. There was even a film about someone who was a Communist for the FBI.

But this is more fundamental than Politics. It's about Power and the real enemy who had what Hoover wanted.

Hoover's paranoia would never have allowed him to employ someone who might be under the influence of James Jesus Angleton.
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Apparently he did. Not as an employee but a contract agent.
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Did I say "employee", Robert? I said "employ", it means "use". Do I have to use only one syllable words for you to understand?

As for Hoover using any agent whose soul he did not own - extremely unlikely, considering his treatment of MI-6 double agent Dusan Povov in 1941. And Hoover had not grown more reasonable and mellow with age.
 
Robert Prey said:
This is what those witnesses observed:


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No. That is a drawing of what they claimed to have seen.

Why would we believe any witness when we can clearly see JFK has a large exit wound on the front of his head (that you cropped out of your version of the deathstare photo) and if no photographs after the shooting show an exit wound to the back of his head.

When DID the rear exit wound appear? Do you have any material evidence it was there? Orare you making a special pleading some witnesses are ok, but the ones you don't like are liable to be invalid?
 
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