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Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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Well, I'll be...if I were an AK supporter, I'd feel pretty damned vindicated right now. I still have some rather significant personal doubts as to whether or not AK is truly innocent (although at this point, I think it's more along the lines of "she knew more than she was willing to admit" rather than "she did it"). But clearly the court feels that at a minimum, there's reasonable doubt -- and for what it's worth, so do I at this point. And that's enough for me to be glad she's going home to her family.

Gotta hand it to you, you never gave up even in the face of outright derison (and yeah, I joined in on occasion, mea culpa and all that). I only hope that a cause I feel as strongly about as you do someday comes to such an unambiguous optimal fruition.

I'm kind of surprised at my reaction right now, because I'm actually feeling good about this. Maybe because if you have to be proven wrong about something, the fact that a young woman goes home infinitely outweighs any personal embarassment I might feel about it.
You are getting there. Try again, though. Take a look at the actual evidence with a more objective critical eye and maybe you'll see it.
 
Ahemmm, I guess I am gloating a bit about the thread, especially considering all the baggage that went with it. :D

But that part about contributing, naahh, I don't think so. I was trying to find the PMF and there were so many forums when you search Google for "Knox forum" that I couldn't find it. Could someone fill me on on what PM stands for or post the link again? I'm just curious.


Really? PMS..errr PMF? And you started this thread? :-)

Perugia Murder File...which is run by a hateful woman from Seattle named Margret (Peggy) Ganong. And is moderated by a University of Washington employee named Randy Jackson. ...alias Fly By Night....that PMF????

Hopefully due its being owned by and moderated by those in the neighborhood of innocent person Amanda Knox and seeing as how PMF regularly posted names addresses and photos of family members of Knox including minors ....yes those persons in the Knox family under age 18 I remain hopeful that the police and the FBI both open a file and keep a close eye on this hate group and in particular these two haters.

That PMF?? or is it someone else you wish to know about...like another hate group TJMK run by Peter (the pervert) Quinell? same MO different city.
 
I don't think that's Filomena the roommate. Different last names, and Filomena is older I believe. That Filomena was only 19 when the murder happened.


Filomena Romanelli was the room-mate. And she wasn't a student, she was a legal secretary. And she was about 27 at the time of the murder I think.

Rolfe.
 
And SG said she wanted to know what the PM stood for in Mignini's title. So do I. But you raving geniuses are wittering on about PMF, wot we all know about.

Rolfe.
 
Filomena Romanelli was the room-mate. And she wasn't a student, she was a legal secretary. And she was about 27 at the time of the murder I think.

Rolfe.
Oh, thanks. I guess I really am not up on my Filomena, and assumed she was quoted BECAUSE she was the former roommate. Thanks for the clarification.
 
Something I found interesting from the verdict after both viewing the video and reading a translation. Not only did the court find that Amanda and Raffeale did not commit the murder, but they ruled that the crime of staging a crime scene "did not exist". Basically, they ruled that the staged break-in was not staged!!

Isn't that what so many of us have been saying all along?

:D :D :D
 
It is Massei's report that made no sense

Maundy Gregory wrote, "It won’t be possible to know how the decision of the court was reached until it publishes its detailed motivation report. But I find it hard to imagine how it will make sense. The disheartening expectation I have, which I think others will share, it that it will offer the reasoning of a court that has crumpled under the pressure of a public relations campaign. A humiliating day for Italy."

Everything that Maundy said could have been said in 2009, and it would have had the benefit of being closer to the truth than what he wrote.
 
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Can someone please explain to me how, after essentially two trials, a convicted criminal for a prosecutor, proven lies by police, prosecution, forensics testimony (shown on video no less), can there still be those who will still only believe the lies spread by the prosecution propaganda campaign that started 4 years ago. Lies that have either never been proven to be true or have been disproved during this appeal trial? I've gotten so frustrated and angry at another site I just finally had to stop responding because I was getting really snarky in my posts. I just cannot wrap my head around this way of viewing this trial. I'm generally a pro prosecution person! I almost always view what the defense does as smoke and mirrors to find any kind of reasonable doubt, but this case went beyond my reasonable doubt threshold into complete did not do it. Which in all honesty has only happened one other time. The judge said, paraphrasing here, that they didn't do it, not that there was reasonable doubt. The judge said there was no break in staging, it was a break in. I'm totally befuddled and frustrated at the attitude of some!!!!
The human brain has a hardwired function called confirmation bias. If we aren't aware of it and don't make a conscious effort to override confirmation bias then our brains simply filter out as invalid any 'facts' that contradict what we've come to earnestly believe.
 
Something I found interesting from the verdict after both viewing the video and reading a translation. Not only did the court find that Amanda and Raffeale did not commit the murder, but they ruled that the crime of staging a crime scene "did not exist". Basically, they ruled that the staged break-in was not staged!!

Isn't that what so many of us have been saying all along?

:D :D :D
Right, it was a stunning victory for the defense. Hellman basically ruled that the whole theory of Knox and Sollecito's involvement was an error and a fantasy. This is why I was shocked that CNN ran that piece tonight (I posted the link here, but no one took notice ) , saying that we will never know the truth, that Knox and Sollecito might actually have been part of the murder, etc.:mad:
 
ministero or minestrone or something

And SG said she wanted to know what the PM stood for in Mignini's title. So do I. But you raving geniuses are wittering on about PMF, wot we all know about.

Rolfe.
The Italian equivalent of public minister.
 
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Ginger,

PMF = Perugia Murder File

Links: Here and Here (There are two PMFs now.)

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Thanks. Guess I was looking for forum, but now that you name it, I recall the web site. It's been a while since I kept up with this thread. Which makes me wonder if Fiona will ever come back? I wish she would. We rarely agreed in the financial threads, but one needs people with different views if one wants to learn anything.
 
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And SG said she wanted to know what the PM stood for in Mignini's title. So do I. But you raving geniuses are wittering on about PMF, wot we all know about.

Rolfe.
No, it was PMF. Remember, I haven't been following this thread for a very long time. Like Fiona but for different reasons, it became too hostile and I saw no reason to put up with it. I guessed wrong that it stood for 'P.M. Forum' but I recall now the 'murder file' website. I remembered the Friends of Kercher group, but had forgotten about the other.
 
What happened to "The American's need to back off and let the Italians handle this?"
Now they attack Italy!

After nearly 4 years of spewing hatred at others, now that Amanda and Raffaele are free,
now it's about Meredith!


We are told that is it wrong to label people but in this case it is impossible to avoid.

Definition of guilter: A guilter is someone that believes in the guilt of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito regardless of any evidence that is presented proving otherwise. A guilter will continue to believe that Amanda and Raffaele are guilty long after they are acquitted.


Guilters need to step away from the keyboards now. The debate is over. Amanda and Raffaele have been declared innocent. They did not have anything to do with Meredith's murder. The two should be left alone so that they can begin to rebuild their lives.
 
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Main stream press picking up the story but still gets the facts wrong. You can tell who's been on the story and who hasn't.
 
Thanks. Guess I was looking for forum, but now that you name it, I recall the web site. It's been a while since I kept up with this thread. Which makes me wonder if Fiona will ever come back? I wish she would. We rarely agreed in the financial threads, but one needs people with different views if one wants to learn anything.


I believe Fiona will wander back when the PMF site evaporates. If she uses this experience to examine how she came to her conclusions it will make her a stronger skeptic.
 
And SG said she wanted to know what the PM stood for in Mignini's title. So do I. But you raving geniuses are wittering on about PMF, wot we all know about.

Rolfe.

Oh...well one would think that someone with a 160 odd something IQ would know PM = public Minister....its on the test I hear.

Sorry to be raving on your parade...twitter - er

a link...but be warned this could be harmful to your brain cells.

http://perugiamurderfile.org/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=8286e1f120b7154e8007266bf4b702fc
 
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