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seewithyourowneyes said:
9/11 was an inside Job Wall to Wall, with 19 Patsies, OBL & Al-CIAda. Every intelligence agency in the World, worthy of that name, knows it perfectly well since 2001.


The Courageous President of Italy, Cossiga said it out loud, as well as some Japanese Parliamentarians, Ahmadinejad and many others. The 9/11 truth movement, filled with Architects, Engineers, US officers from NORAD, DIA etc., US Pilots, NYC Firefighters and Policemen, demolition experts, scholars & more, is alive and kicking. The American people deserve better than this utter monstrosity of sheer propaganda, ever since the advent of the PNAC/Ziocon Killers/assassins of the most infamous White House Murder INC, in 1995, and the American people will reclaim their Government and Congress soon enough. Encouraging signs appear all over the great US Campuses. They are the only ones capable of changing this Cabal of war criminals for good.


http://univercia2langley.blogspot.com/2011/05/ciamossadmi6bnddgsesismi-false-flag.html


ya better watch out the information is going to start getting very serious!!!
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When the information gets factual, let us know.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
The Commission’s initial budget for the biggest crime in America was a mere $3 million as compared to the $50 million for the investigation of the Columbia space shuttle. It cost $40 million to investigate the soap opera sexual escapades of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. The 9/11 Commission was finally awarded another $11 million before the report finally became available in the third week of July 2004.

Even after consenting to an investigation, Bush and Cheney initially stonewalled the commission in the following ways:

· Refused to allow National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice to testify.

· White House tried to limit Bush's testimony to one hour.

· White House withheld about 75 percent of almost 11,000 pages of Clinton records pertaining to the investigation of the terrorist attacks. This information was held at the National Archives.

· They demanded that Bush and Cheney not be forced to testify under oath.

· Bush and Cheney demanded to be allowed to testify together.
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Unlike others here, I have personal experience with the conspiracy and the cowardly psychology of Bush.

I used to think everything was a conspiracy, if Bush had anything to do with it.

Right now, my best estimate puts Bush at 6 on a scale of 10 of knowing about 9-11 ahead of time.

The WTC is a dead end for 2 reasons
No evidence remains.
The planes would have caused so much death and destruction that any attempt to insure the building collapse would expose the conspiracy to too many variables. As it was, it looked like Saudi Arabian Terrorists, funded by Pakistani ISI, all with connections to the Bush family.

Too much evidence left behind, for very little gain, and a high risk of detection.

Take it from somebody that the FBI was trying to set up as a terrorist, (doesn't that make me an expert in terrorism), it was not worth the risks.

Did Bush have control of the DOJ, Yes.

Could he block the proper operation of the NSA and FBI, Yes.

Is he gone, YES!

Is the conspiracy unwinding, YES!

Is everybody in the conspiracy, Mostly NO.
 
DeathDart said:
Unlike others here, I have personal experience with the conspiracy and the cowardly psychology of Bush.

I used to think everything was a conspiracy, if Bush had anything to do with it.

Right now, my best estimate puts Bush at 6 on a scale of 10 of knowing about 9-11 ahead of time.

The WTC is a dead end for 2 reasons
No evidence remains.
The planes would have caused so much death and destruction that any attempt to insure the building collapse would expose the conspiracy to too many variables. As it was, it looked like Saudi Arabian Terrorists, funded by Pakistani ISI, all with connections to the Bush family.

Too much evidence left behind, for very little gain, and a high risk of detection.

Take it from somebody that the FBI was trying to set up as a terrorist, (doesn't that make me an expert in terrorism), it was not worth the risks.

Did Bush have control of the DOJ, Yes.

Could he block the proper operation of the NSA and FBI, Yes.

Is he gone, YES!

Is the conspiracy unwinding, YES!

Is everybody in the conspiracy, Mostly NO.
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You posted earlier that Bush wanted power - he was already POTUS.

Where did he want to go from there?
 
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BStrong said:
You posted earlier that Bush wanted power - he was already POTUS.

Where did he want to go from there?
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He didn't get there by himself, he had to pay back some favors.

Also he (Bush) bought halfway into the sociopathic ideology of those around him.

I am usually good at crazy, but there is something so basically irrational about this ideology, that I can't walk a mile in its shoes. I am pretty sure it would be something that Nietzsche would have liked.

It is strongly fascist, defined as government for the powerful, by the powerful.

Unifying America, by threats real or imagined.

Their progress in corrupting the system (Unexpected consequence) can be seen by the last economic collapse. After the Savings and Loan mess, 1000 people were indicted, 800 went to prison.

This time, how many?

When you loosen the rules for the billionaires, you also loosen the rules for 1000's of greedy executives, the unexpected consequence.

Bush did get their people on the Supreme Court. The pipeline for all the courts are bursting with Judges who are very sympathetic to big business and big brother.

An of course who could forget the …....

Someone will fill in the blank.
 
DeathDart said:
Do you have a blender at home?

The blades probably weigh less than an ounce each.

Some of those girders weighed 10,000 pounds each.

There were hundreds (thousands?) of girders.

These girders were rolling and tumbling as they came down.
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The vertical supports are COLUMNS. Repeat after me: Columns, columns, columns. Girders are horizontal members which usually carry other horizontal members.

Next time you will have to write: "I will not call structure by the wrong terms while attempting to look like I have a clue.". 100 times.....:eye-poppi
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
WTC 7 WTC 1&2 all demolished.....all part of a master plan....come on....haters how do you explain WTC 7 falling down....no real fire...not hit by a plane...and crashes down in 6.5 seconds...something is very strange!!
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Hi See...

Check out my YouTube videos on chrismohr911, esp. part 13 and part 18 to answer your questions on Building 7.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
how many people survived?
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Tens of thousands.
how many boides were found?

293 intact bodies.....the rest turned into dust!
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So these intact bodies managed to withstand a force that turned millions of tons of concrete & steel to dust? How?

Oh, & how did all of those survivors live through being caught in those "pyroclastic" clouds?
 
Dissociation in chemistry and biochemistry is a general process in which ionic compounds (complexes, or salts) separate or split into smaller particles, ions, or radicals, usually in a reversible manner. For instance, when a Bronsted-Lowry acid is put in water, a covalent bond between an electronegative atom and a hydrogen atom is broken by heterolytic fission, which gives a proton and a negative ion. Dissociation is the opposite of association and recombination. The process is frequently confused with ionization.


lalalalalalalalalala......
 
On the fifth anniversary of the ‘9-11’ attacks, more citizens than ever before are questioning official versions of the attacks and the adequacy of the 9-11 Commission Report.



According to an August 2006 Scripps Howard/Ohio University national survey, 36% of Americans believe 9-11 was an ‘inside job’ with government agencies complicit in what occurred.[2] A Zogby poll in May 2006 found that 42% of Americans believed that official explanations and the 9-11 Commission were covering up the truth.[3]



There has been a steady stream of authors, journalists, researchers and media personalities coming forward to declare that 9-11 was an ‘inside job’. Some of the more prominent include the theologian Dr David Ray Griffin author/editor of a number of books on 9-11 including 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out (2003), Michael Ruppert author of Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil (2004), and actor Charlie Sheen who went public with his views on March 2006.[4]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZM.htm

36% is a lot of people...not the 6 of you in this fourm trying to keep the "lie going...."
that fire can bring down buildings.....what a joke...what a shame that there are people like you that don't care about the truth.....go on.....keep living with your heads in the sand....I don't care about people who don't care about themselves and it's obvious that all a lot of you care about is trying to take the focus off the scary truth that we were all lied to on Sept. 11th 2001....
 
A white paper on the structure of the Twin Towers carried out by the firm of Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson contained eleven numbered points, including:

3. The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707-DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact.

http://stj911.org/evidence/wtc.html#gz_visual
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
A white paper on the structure of the Twin Towers carried out by the firm of Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson contained eleven numbered points, including:

3. The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707-DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact.

http://stj911.org/evidence/wtc.html#gz_visual
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Great post.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
Dissociation in chemistry and biochemistry is a general process in which ionic compounds (complexes, or salts) separate or split into smaller particles, ions, or radicals, usually in a reversible manner. For instance, when a Bronsted-Lowry acid is put in water, a covalent bond between an electronegative atom and a hydrogen atom is broken by heterolytic fission, which gives a proton and a negative ion. Dissociation is the opposite of association and recombination. The process is frequently confused with ionization.


lalalalalalalalalala......
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When you quote Wikipedia please include an acknowledgment or link.

Steel is not a salt or ionic compound, it's an alloy.

Meanwhile you continue to waste the time you once suggested was precious to you.
 
I'm not wasting time now....I'm providing information for people who care about TRUTH>>>NOT NONSENCE!!!


Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders. Thus, a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation.
The September 11 operation modified the course of events in the world in the direction chosen by transnational mafias and international oligarchs; that is, those who hope to control the planet's natural resources, the world information network and the financial flows. This operation also favored the US economic and political elite that also seeks world dominance.


Many WORLD LEADERS know 9-11 is a FALSE FLAG OPERATION....




Operation Northwoods

US PLANNED FAKE TERROR ATTACKS ON CITIZENS
TO CREATE SUPPORT FOR CUBAN WAR

From BODY OF SECRETS, James Bamford, Doubleday, 2001, p.82 and following.
Scanned and edited by NY Transfer News.

Although no one in Congress could have known it at the time, Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped over the edge.

According to secret and long-hidden documents obtained for Body of Secrets, the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. In the name of antiCommunism, they proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba


http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
 
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