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Boycott Israel

WildCat said:
The law should be criicized, and will likely be overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court. But is it any more outrageous than the Canada Human Rights Commission fiascos? The Dutch laws Wilders was charged under? Holocaust denial laws in Germany and elsewhere? Is this really boycott material?
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I'm not typically one to be terribly upset about laws that restrict the freedom of speech in the effort of protecting a local minority, such as Holocaust denial laws, although I believe they do more harm than good. However, I do find this law very disturbing. Yes, I would say that it's worse, at the very least worse than Holocaust denial laws and possibly worse than your other examples.

The right to call for a boycott seems to me like one of the fundamental rights bringing democratic qualities to a economic system, akin to the right to form a political party or demonstration. Infringing on it like this law is threatening to do is very serious. I hope it is overturned, and if it is not, I hope companies know better than to take a stance against free speech by taking advantage of it.

I also think it's too bad this discussion ended up being the usual Israel vs Palestine drivel, when it's clear that a great deal of people within Israel are also opposing this law and should be supported by the international community in getting rid of it, rather than have their nation attacked and defended like a monolithic entity.
 
WildCat said:
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How could a company "take advantage of it"?
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As the law was described in Complexity's link, it appears that those who suffer from the effects of a boycott can sue those who call for it. I meant that I was hoping (perhaps naïvely) that companies would not sue in such a case, because that would indicate support of the legislation, and companies should not support the legislaton.
 
Complexity, aren't you cutting down the branch you're sitting on?
I mean you actively initiate something that is meant to harm Israel, the only state in the middle east that has equal human rights to homosexuals (a sector you publicly declared you belong to), yet I have not seen you take any action against any other country which kills homosexuals for being homosexuals.
How do you explain this?
 
Only the white man is morally responsible for his actions. Although Israel isn't technically "white", as many Jews come from Arabia and Africa, it's honorary white.
 
Virus said:
Only the white man is morally responsible for his actions. Although Israel isn't technically "white", as many Jews come from Arabia and Africa, it's honorary white.
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Why do you say this applies only to the white man?
 
Virus said:
Only the white man is morally responsible for his actions. Although Israel isn't technically "white", as many Jews come from Arabia and Africa, it's honorary white.
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Israel is white enough if you look at the right ones.

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Complexity said:
Israel and its neighbors should all be condemned for their human rights abuses.

That others are worse than Israel in that regard does not give Israel a free pass.

This knee-jerk support of Israel in spite of its poor behavior is predictable, unfortunately.
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What knee jerk support? I and many others here said this law is stupid. So did 80% of so of the Israeli press. The law is euphemistically described in most of that press as "controvertial" -- which is journalese-speak for "a piece of you-know-what".
 
Complexity said:
I will not put my talents to the service of the US government or people, apart from the taxes that are taken from me. I will not work for the government or aid it in any other way.
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So you don't vote, serve on jury duty or use the United States Postal Service?
 
Complexity said:
The US is well on the way to becoming a theocracy.

Effectively, it already is.
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How can you boycott the U.S. when you live in the U.S. and say you boycott theocracies which you say the U.S. is?
 
Alt+F4 said:
How can you boycott the U.S. when you live in the U.S. and say you boycott theocracies which you say the U.S. is?
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He uses the post office, but he doesn't enjoy it.










. . . Which, come to think of it, is what most of us do.
 
Alt+F4 said:
So you don't vote, serve on jury duty or use the United States Postal Service?
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How is voting aiding, serving or working for the government if you are voting against the current government?
 
DC said:
finding made in China products is not so hard :D
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True that, but the majority of people in the U.S. were made in the U.S. so Complexity would have to boycott them too.
 
Rufo said:
How is voting aiding, serving or working for the government if you are voting against the current government?
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Because voting is what the government wants you to do. They request it, they have public service announcments to encourage you to do it. Must be a big part of this theocratic government I'm living under. By the way, any suggestions what I should wear to my first gay New York State wedding?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Because voting is what the government wants you to do. They request it, they have public service announcments to encourage you to do it. Must be a big part of this theocratic government I'm living under.
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I get your point, the US is a democracy first and foremost, but you can reject the government while retaining some faith in democracy as system.

By the way, any suggestions what I should wear to my first gay New York State wedding?
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Well, I like your avatar...
 
Rufo said:
I get your point, the US is a democracy first and foremost, but you can reject the government while retaining some faith in democracy as system.
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It's my opinion that when people rejects the government that's when it starts to stop being a democracy.


Well, I like your avatar...
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The Star Wars themed gay wedding is in August, for the July one I'll just have to wear regular clothes...sigh. :)
 
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