Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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excaza said:
You still haven't explained why they would fight a fire in an empty building when there were 2 collapsed non-empty skyscrapers right next to it.
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Yes I have. They had plenty of firefighters to do both. They sent 40 to put out the fires in WTC 7 between 11:00 a.m. and noon. One of your guys posted that.
 
leftysergeant said:
Ask him to explain the concept of "confabulation." There's a lot of that going on in Da Twoof.

(I majored in Special Ed myself, but got too creeped out working with autistic kids. Confabulation is not rare among developmentally disabled people.)
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Da twoof? Why is a 60+ year old man talking like a 3 year old child? :rolleyes:
 
000063 said:
Which is why any conspiracy theorist worth his tinfoil hat shuns context, any context, like a vampire shuns garlic. I've encountered a CT so afraid of direct statements that he refused to produce evidence which actually existed for his own side.
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I present evidence but you just deny it.

Free fall acceleration is proof of CD but you refuse to accept that.

The fire that NIST says started the collapse had gone out but you refuse to accept that too.
 
Christopher7 said:
:D Where did I say that?

40 firefighters and the Hudson River.

I love a challenge.

The only thing necessary is the ability to read and understand that a fire that has burned out cannot heat steel beams. You will grow up someday and it will all become clear to you.

Nitey nite :)
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So the fire had burned out but you think there was a conspiracy to not fight the fire that that burned out?
 
Clayton Moore said:
I love the banter. piss off gravity collapse collapse initiation
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They roll off tongues like the dialogue of a B SYFI movie.

Where are all the fixes and zoning changes for every building susceptible to a possible gravity collapse?

Where are the books and papers by architects and engineers concerning what we learned about how to prevent gravity collapses after 9/11?

You gotta love the childlike bravado and assertiveness.

The only way to explain 9/11 is that the Bermuda Triangle moved to the US for a day.
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I get a kick out of the term "gravity collapse". :D

All collapses are gravity collapses.
 
Christopher7 said:
Destruction of the physical evidence that could tell how WTC 7 collapsed could be considered evidence of a cover up. This is even more suspicious when the official explanation could not possibly happen the way NIST said it did because the fire they say started the collapse had burned out over an hour earlier.
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That would be the steel that was in a molten pool and was also shipped to China?
 
Oystein said:
Not all of the debris pile was exposed to temperatures above 700°C. Only pockets get that hot in any smouldering mound, depending on oxygene and fuel availability. So you need all of these at the same location to produce SO2:
- gypsum
- clay
- carbon (do you mean CO?)
- above 700C
You just don't have all the gypsum mixed with enough clay and exposed to streams of CO at >700°C.
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I believe the clay increases the production by (guess) providing a sticky surface for the reaction to occur. I think that CO and gypsum will form SO2 though the production without the clay will be reduced. Other materials present, soot, concrete particles may have substituted.

The debris also represented a massive heat insulator. Relatively low hydrogen production could create thermal runaway conditions in some areas until the primary fires were extinguished.
 
tsig said:
So the fire had burned out but you think there was a conspiracy to not fight the fire that that burned out?
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Your ability to understand what you have read is non-existent.

They decided not to fight the fire on floor 12 at 1:30 p.m. It did not burn out until after 4:00 p.m.

It had burned out in the area of the collapse initiation by about 3:45 p.m.
 
Leftysargeant is also correct that indiscriminate placement of Sulfuric Acid gel or gypsum reactant will produce unpredictable results. The desired (technical) result is a total pancake collapse proceeding down through the building.

With a tall structure you might want the triggering mechanism to be in the horizontal direction. You attempt to weaken vertical stiffness, then totally remove horizontal cohesion.

Vertical supports are weakened making them flexible.
Horizontal connections are cut.
A slight disturbance, like an increase in wind speed will cause a slight bowing in a few elements, then all of them.
Every element could then bow away from the center, the core will split like a banana as the collapse proceeds downward.
Tensile forces on the core transform into bending or shearing forces.
 
Free fall acceleration is proof of CD
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If you bold that, it'll be true.

No it won't. Sorry.



Massive explosions, explosives debris is. Please refer to one of the several photo's I've posted of a collapsed WTC 7 and point to me where the casings, detcord...etc... are.
 
Christopher7 said:
I present evidence but you just deny it.

Free fall acceleration is proof of CD but you refuse to accept that.

The fire that NIST says started the collapse had gone out but you refuse to accept that too.
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Really?
 
He didn't ask for "truth" Chris,

Where are the books and papers by architects and engineers concerning what we learned about how to prevent gravity collapses after 9/11?
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He asked for books and papers. Reading comprehension is your friend.
 
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