Merged Molten metal observations

Java Man said:
I've already stated the reason for not putting the draft on the board. I'm sure you're just waiting for a list of points to jump to any of them and far away from this point at hand. I won't give you the pleasure. Put forth the numbers for the reactions required to produce the components involved in the erosion of the beam.
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There is no draft.
 
Java Man said:
Yea I guess your chaos theory predicts the accumulation of all that gypsum on those "rare spots". As WTC 7 fell all the drywall converged on that one spot. Right!

And it was never found in any inspection? A beam practically disappeared and nobody even noticed a dent on the floor?
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I thought the idea behind chaos is its unpredictability? Who's to say a bundle of drywall wasn't sitting in the building somewhere (loading dock etc), came to rest, heavily damaged, on the right beam, sitting at the right angle, at the right temperature for the right amount of time. Who's to say drywall was even the source? The point is a thermXte reaction (melting) doesn't do that. If the had there would have been a lot more samples like the ones they found considering the amount that would have been needed to collapse building of that size. Don't ask me to calculate how much... you should know already that since it's YOUR theory.

And for a reality check, We're talking about NYC. The same place where inspectors "missed" that 2/3 of the required tie offs were missing from a crane a few years ago. **** happens. Nothing is perfect. Things slip through.
 
Justin39640 said:
I thought the idea behind chaos is its unpredictability? Who's to say a bundle of drywall wasn't sitting in the building somewhere (loading dock etc), came to rest, heavily damaged, on the right beam, sitting at the right angle, at the right temperature for the right amount of time.
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Right! And all the other drywall just didn't. Mhhhhh, not quite. Try again.
 
NoahFence said:
The dust cloud contained plenty of sulfur, along with other ingredients. Some of which are no doubt the pulverized remains of the victims .
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Yes, the Colossal dust cloud was also composed with the pulverised remains of the bodies of the World Trade Center victims, I wonder how and why the bodies of the WTC victims can become dust with just the "Theoretical WTC collapse explanation" ?, remember that fragment bones of the WTC victims were found (and therefore were able to fly and reach) the roof of the very very tall Deutsch bank

Pieces of Bone fragment Are Found on Building at 9/11 Site


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/nyregion/06remains.html
 
Java Man said:
Are you kidding us?? Are you seriously asking for evidence of the usage of thermite to cut through things?
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No,I was wondering how it was smuggled in,when and how were the charges rigged,was the NYFD in on it,did the mayor know about it,what happened to the passengers on the planes,who planned it,how was it carried out,etc...... Little unimportant details like that. No doubt it is all in the draft that we will never see.
 
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walkyrie said:
Yes, the Colossal dust cloud was also composed with the pulverised remains of the bodies of the World Trade Center victims, I wonder how and why the bodies of the WTC victims can become dust with just the "Theoretical WTC collapse explanation" ?, remember that fragment bones of the WTC victims were found (and therefore were able to fly and reach) the roof of the very very tall Deutsch bank

Pieces of Bone fragment Are Found on Building at 9/11 Site


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/nyregion/06remains.html
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You are even less qualified than Java,and that is saying something. Can you tell me why I should take any notice of your opinions?
 
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Java Man said:
Are you kidding us?? Are you seriously asking for evidence of the usage of thermite to cut through things?
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I think he means that you haven't presented any evidence for the things you're pushing. I can't speak for anyone other than myself,, but while casting doubt can be a fun little exercise it only gets you so far before you need to make a case for yourself. Even if for example you manage to cast sufficient doubt about the contribution of the gypsum wall board to the corrosion of the steel through a release of sulfur you still have no legitimate case for thermite. Unless you provide a compelling argument you're basically stuck without anything to stand on.

You did express concerns that making a case would lead to people trying to divert attention to irrelevant details. All can say is if you're really that worried consider debating someone in which only a couple of people are able to participate. They do moderated threads from time to time, so that might be an option for you to consider
 
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop
Why hasn't it been used in any other demolition or steel cutting application?
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Originally Posted by Java Man
It has.
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Originally Posted by dafydd
Evidence? Or do we have to wait for your draft?
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Originally Posted by Java Man
Evidence for what? That thermite is used to cut through things?
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Originally Posted by Java Man
Are you kidding us?? Are you seriously asking for evidence of the usage of thermite to cut through things?
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Tell me this isn't a perfect example of trolling.
JM, can you show me where any demolition company has used therm*te to demolish a building? Can you show me one commercial application where therm*te is used to cut steel vertically?
 
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Tell me this isn't a perfect example of trolling.
JM, can you show me where any demolition company has used therm*te to demolish a building? Can you show me one commercial application where therm*te is used to cut steel vertically?
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Even broader than that - how often or how many uses of thermite are for cutting?
 
This thread has become too boring to even check up on. The lone advocate for therm*te CD has so utterly failed in his quest to bring the issue even up to a nominally viable level, it's a total non-starter.

I admit I find discussions about the physics and chemistry more interesting in general, but this dogged need to insert the magic therm*te idea where it clearly doesn't belong is very tedious. It's not very different from the no-plane, or WTC dustification drone threads.

Happy Easter to all, and for you devoted conspiracy theorists (and Pagans like me) you may wish to celebrate as the ancient Celts did - the festival of the spring Goddess, Oester, symbolized by the Hare and the Egg.
You can reflect on the vast Christian conspiracy to bury Celtic heritage and replace it with the 'Official Christian Theory' or OCT for short. :D
 
IS it mor eexpensive to use thermite for melting steel than it is to use electricity?
Why would 'shoveling it in' be a chore when they have to charge the furnace anyway?

Can you show some evidence of Thermite being used anywhere on a commercial basis to cut things?
Can you show evidence for thermite ever being used anywhere to demolish a building?
 
If Thermite can melt amny Kios of Steel I will have to tell my dad, he uses a gas torch and blower to fire his furnace at not inconsiderable cost.
As for loading it int oa furnce, why would that be a chore, the furnace has to be charged anyway. Pop in the mix, ignite and instant molten steel. too good to be true.

Can you post some evidence of Thermite being used on a commercial basis for cutting vertical steelwork or demolishing buildings? the latter would be best, I have never seen any.
 
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