Merged Molten metal observations

[Java Man]

It's OK JM, you can admit when you're wrong. It's helpful!

Why? You just opened a door of possibilities on what can be used to cut steel.

 

[Animal]

So you linked to a photo of the cleanup. This proves CD how?

After the Bruins game and a healthy amount of Jack, I now have the worst hangover mankind has ever seen. And I STILL pwn you.

But that is like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[Justin39640]

Well as Justin just explained to us. The difference is in the source of oxygen. Aside from that it's pretty much the same reaction. You're burning a metal to produce a large amount of heat.

Which doesn't produce the kind of damage that a corrosive attack does. This is so simple.

 

[Animal]

Yes, the Colossal dust cloud was also composed with the pulverised remains of the bodies of the World Trade Center victims, I wonder how and why the bodies of the WTC victims can become dust with just the "Theoretical WTC collapse explanation" ?, remember that fragment bones of the WTC victims were found (and therefore were able to fly and reach) the roof of the very very tall Deutsch bank

Pieces of Bone fragment Are Found on Building at 9/11 Site


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/nyregion/06remains.html

Body fragments were also found in manholes........there is a simple explanation how they got there........troofers always ignore the simple and easy answer for the vastly complex and cynically delusional.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Well as Justin just explained to us. The difference is in the source of oxygen. Aside from that it's pretty much the same reaction. You're burning a metal to produce a large amount of heat.

JM, you are so far off-base that you're on a different playing field.

Thermite is a reaction of iron oxide and aluminum. Here, watch this short video - it's got a movie of some real thermite:



Just because something has the word "therm" doesn't mean "thermITE." "Therm-" means heat-related.

 

[Justin39640]

Why? You just opened a door of possibilities on what can be used to cut steel.

I can cut steel with high pressure water. Using water to rust it away would be far less efficient and produce entirely different and less desirable results! IT'S NOT THE SAME THING!

 

[Java Man]

Which doesn't produce the kind of damage that a corrosive attack does. This is so simple.

Correct, corrosive attack which can't be supported by your source of elements involved. Which calls to attention the need for another source more abundant than yours.

 

[NoahFence]

Java

Where is your paper that eliminates all other possibilities for the collapses, and concludes that only therm*te or whatever magic stuff you've conjured up is the only possibility?

You've had near 10 years.

 

[Justin39640]

Correct, corrosive attack which can't be supported by your source of elements involved. Which calls to attention the need for another source more abundant than yours.

So exotic demolition charges is the answer? Regardless of the ridiculous amount of thermXte you would need, the ridiculous amount of drywall it was hidden behind far outweighs it by many times over.

GET IT?

 

[Java Man]

So exotic demolition charges is the answer? Regardless of the ridiculous amount of thermXte you would need, the ridiculous amount of drywall it was hidden behind far outweighs it by many times over.

GET IT?

I get it. There can be tons of drywall, but the conditions are far from optimal to produce that reaction. Now if you consider residue from a thermate device and it fits in, the damage, the corrosion and the ample amount of free sulfur in the area. Free sulfur you have not been able to justify in any other way.

 

[NoahFence]

I get it. There can be tons of drywall, but the conditions are far from optimal to produce that reaction. Now if you consider residue from a thermate device and it fits in, the damage, the corrosion and the ample amount of free sulfur in the area. Free sulfur you have not been able to justify in any other way.

You still haven't explained how the magic substance got there.

Care to take a crack at it? This would be the first and most important step in the process.

How'd it get there?

 

[Justin39640]

I get it. There can be tons of drywall, but the conditions are far from optimal to produce that reaction. Now if you consider residue from a thermate device and it fits in, the damage, the corrosion and the ample amount of free sulfur in the area. Free sulfur you have not been able to justify in any other way.

Hence why it didn't happen everywhere. Random **** happens and there's the result.

Know one can tell for sure what the mechanism was. Diesel fuel until 93 had high sulfur content. Who's to say that wasn't supporting the battery box of a generator and we're looking at years worth of damage? It wasn't melted it was attacked by corrosion. IE not molten as per the thread title and 20 or so pages of your distractions and nit pickings.

 

[Justin39640]

You still haven't explained how the magic substance got there.

Care to take a crack at it? This would be the first and most important step in the process.

How'd it get there?

Exactly. Debunkers work from what was absolutely known to have been in the building. Many sources other than mythical demolitions that leave no trace, create no light, and make no noise.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Still no evidence of thermite cutting beams or demolishing a building.

 

[Java Man]

Hence why it didn't happen everywhere. Random **** happens and there's the result.

Know one can tell for sure what the mechanism was. Diesel fuel until 93 had high sulfur content. Who's to say that wasn't supporting the battery box of a generator and we're looking at years worth of damage? It wasn't melted it was attacked by corrosion. IE not molten as per the thread title and 20 or so pages of your distractions and nit pickings.

Talking about diesel fuel, take a look at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbbJl0PWKg4

All the ingredients you mention, yet no corrosion.

 

[Java Man]

Still no evidence of thermite cutting beams or demolishing a building.

Plenty I guess. First of all any cut beam we see on ground zero could have been cut by thermite as well. Secondly, what is required to collapse the building is the release of the floors. Which can be achieved with small charges in the strusses. No big charges to cut core beams.

 

[beachnut]

I get it. There can be tons of drywall, but the conditions are far from optimal to produce that reaction. Now if you consider residue from a thermate device and it fits in, the damage, the corrosion and the ample amount of free sulfur in the area. Free sulfur you have not been able to justify in any other way.

No thermite products found at the WTC. Your delusion needs evidence to make it real, it is lacking evidence. Your delusion on thermite/thermate remains your nonsensical explanation for erosion done well below temperatures thermite reactions take place at.

Jones' paper on thermite is a fraud and he fooled you because you don't understand chemical engineering. Jones made up thermite 4 years after 911 out of thin air to support his delusion on 911, like his delusion on the Haiti earthquake being caused by the United States, insane claims.

You see, the eutectic leaves evidence of a reaction at temperatures below the melting point of the steel in the WTC complex. If thermite was used there would be evidence, of high temperature reactions, those temperature indicative of thermite use. On the corroded steel in question, not temperatures near the melting point of the steel were evident. Your claim is nonsense.

 

[Justin39640]

Talking about diesel fuel, take a look at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbbJl0PWKg4

All the ingredients you mention, yet no corrosion.

Ultra low sulfur diesel fuel. The EPA started taking it out in '93 to reduce pollution. It was the lubrication. Now, any smart diesel owner runs all weather additive for lubricity. Like I said it could have been damage done in the late 80's early 90's. No one knows for sure. ThermXte isn't even on the list since there is no evidence of it regardless of how much 'you' (truthers) lie about and wish it to be there.

 

[NoahFence]

How'd it get there?

 

[Java Man]

Ultra low sulfur diesel fuel. The EPA started taking it out in '93 to reduce pollution. It was the lubrication. Now, any smart diesel owner runs all weather additive for lubricity. Like I said it could have been damage done in the late 80's early 90's. No one knows for sure. ThermXte isn't even on the list since there is no evidence of it regardless of how much 'you' (truthers) lie about and wish it to be there.

What's the sulfur content of such elements you mention?