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Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

They can not be sure that other teams even succeeded to be on board of the planes. So they can not preview any coordination between the planes. All planes should have acted independently from others. But the actual times shows they did not. So, there was a coordination, and according to all considered scenarios, the only one which fully consistent is the "ONE team made operation using high tech tool like tomahawk control systems".

So to prove that something is not controlled by a central entity, it must have a sequence of events get mixed up, or else it's proven that something was controlling it from behind the scenes? Really? Do you know what the word "independent" means?
 
Official story supporters can only DENY, for them everything I tell is meaningless.

Any way, you can continue to tell such baseless and meaningless opinions, you are just telling unsupported opinions. That changes nothing to the facts and I am still waiting your explaination "How and Why 4 different teams planned and succeeded to make 4 successive hijacks?".

Do not use the words like coincidence, level off, successive take offs; NONE of these claims are reasonable in that case.
- Coincidence is impossible because it's repeated in all 4 cases, regardless take off delays, duration of previous hijacks durations.
- Level off times are not consistent with deviation times, some deviations are before level off, some others are too much later.
- Initial take offs are not planned to be successive, the last flight was delayed too much to make it take off only 4 minutes before the first impact.

In other words, you failed as MISERABLY as Bush Administration to explain "How and Why 4 different teams planned and succeeded to make 4 successive hijacks?".

Lets look at your original chart:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/11timeline.jpg




Here's how I see it:

The ideal plan for the hijackers was to minimize the time that authorities would have to react. That would mean taking over each plane as soon as the previous one crashed.

So here's what I think happened:

First of all, they got ahold of airline flight schedules, and chose flights based on how well they fit their plans.

As part of this process, they did some simple math and calculated how long it would take from takeoff to crash for each plane (factoring in the time of the takeovers). Then they met prior to the flights and synchronized watches.

When they arrived at the airport they noted the delays and adjusted their schedules (possibly confirming by cell phone with each-other while still in the airport). Fortunately for them only one plane was delayed significantly, so they only had to shift things around so that UA93 would be the last plane taken over rather than the third.

The takeoff of AA11 was delayed by nine minutes, hence the hijackers knew that this flight's time of impact would be likewise delayed and therefore the takeover of the next planes would also have to be delayed by nine minutes. So while there is almost no delay between the leveling off of AA11 and the takeover, the next two hijacks had delayed takeover times of about 9 minutes.

Now the third plane to be hijacked was supposed to be UA93, but because it was delayed by 41 minutes the hijackers calculated that AA77 would reach it's target first, and so they switched AA77 to third plane in the sequence and moved UA93 to last.

Hence after figuring in the 9-minute delay, they calculated that AA77 would crash at about 9:40, so therefore the team on UA93 would have to takeover at about that time, and they did.

So please explain what aspect of this explanation is impossible:

Is it "impossible" for the hijackers to meet in advance? Yes/no.
Is it "impossible" for the hijackers to acquire plane schedules? Yes/no.
Is it "impossible" for the hijackers to perform math and make calculations? Yes/no.
Is it "impossible" for the hijackers to synchronize watches? Yes/no.
Is it "impossible" for the hijackers to agree to a schedule for plane takeovers? Yes/no.
Is it "impossible" for them to adjust thier schedules while at the airport according to announced delays (as described above)? Yes/no.

What part of this explanation is "impossible?"
 
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=fess;7014157]Actually, the risk of a mid-air collision was high, and if it weren’t for the actions of a few ATC controllers, it very well could have happened.


Exactly. They had no need to worry about other aircraft as ATC would direct them away from the hijacked planes. Even if they didn't the odds of a collision would still be low given the short times for each flight. I'm willing to bet the hijackers made no effort to avoid other aircraft and relied on ATC and the sheer volume of the sky to allow them to reach their targets.
 
=mehmetin;7015985]The consensus here is meaningless. We are on a Jew based forum, and I am the only Muslim who dares to speak about the attacks of 9/11. As those attacks are made by mostly Jew people, sure there will be no consensus on my arguments, I know that.


Hello! I'm an Atheist.......not remotely Jew based (as far as I know....I'll ask my Mum :)
 
I told my qualifications,

Here, let me give you an example.

I am a firefighter with about 16 years experience in the fire service, including FDNY, and now my local fire department.

I attended a local college for a bachelor's degree in fire science, and went on to LSU to receive my masters in fire science.

I currently fight fire full time, and also teach fire science at some of the local firefighting colleges, and even some out of state.



THIS is what "qualifications" look like.

"I am an engineer" is not.

Landscape engineer (Lawn boy)
Refuse Engineer (garbage man)
Computer engineer ( hacker )

Do you get the point?
 
I explained that, see in the thread, and : Prepared and packed explosives anre introduced into the lifts, and from there they are placed at the required places. Nothing is impossible.

So then there should be plenty of explosive residue all over. Please produce some.
 
Coincidence is impossible
the succession of the hijacks is impossible
the IMPOSSIBLE official claim
That is also impossible.
impossible succession
Any other explanation is impossible
Without considering radio control it's impossible to demolish the towers, so he is right.
the impossible and faked phone calls,
It is impossible to find four Muslim teams...<snip>...19 independent people ready to suicide themselves is impossible! Arabs acting in USA so easily and succeeding in their work is impossible.
You should learn to understand how it's impossible to make the succession of the hijacks.
The cellular phone calls are impossible
The impossible theories are not mine.

You did not understood that such answer is useless; the scenario I have explained is impossible. It was there to prove you that the succession of the hijacks is impossible. Sure cell phones are impossible, even if we consider the claim of some official story defenders of sometimes possible calls that could not be used or foreseen by the 4 different teams.

Four different teams scenario is definitely impossible.
For that time, we agree. Such preparation is impossible by 4 different teams. That means the succession could not be possible.
Creating such successive hijacks repeating themselves in all four planes is impossible


This is just a small slice of you using the word "impossible" to handwave away all reality. Yet in an attempt to support your bizarre inconsistent delusions, what do you have the nerve to try and use.

Nothing is impossible.


Suddenly nothing is impossible??? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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The chart here up is not my original one. Is your mixing is intentional to create confusion? According to the confusion in the following part, this confusion looks to be intentional.



My original chart is this one:
http://www.peace911.org/Timeline911.jpg



You are wrong. The best manner to minimize the time that authorities would have to react is making each hijack independently from other flights/hijacks. That would give this chart, which is the most probably way that 4 different teams can act. But that did not happen. That also means all what you tell more is meaningless and debunked by the first hypothesis.

http://www.peace911.org/Timeline4teams911.jpg



- The delay of UA93 was known at about 8:35, when all other planes were airborne. No reschedule is possible at that time.
- The hijackers can only meet about one week before the attack. Not more later; any communication may identify them.
- The calculations you claim they made are not easy calculations that can be done in one minute while everyone was on board or airborne.
- Synchronizing watches is meaningless, they are nor sure that an airborne flight will actually be hijacked at the scheduled time.
- They have no reason to be worry about any “interdependent” schedule of the hijacks.

The easiest way is act independently from each other; hijack each flight as soon as possible and go straight to the target. That is shown in that chart, and again, that did not happen:

[URL="http://www.peace911.org/Timeline4teams911.jpg"]http://www.peace911.org/Timeline4teams911.jpg[/URL]
 
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Here, let me give you an example.

I am a firefighter with about 16 years experience in the fire service, including FDNY, and now my local fire department.

I attended a local college for a bachelor's degree in fire science, and went on to LSU to receive my masters in fire science.

I currently fight fire full time, and also teach fire science at some of the local firefighting colleges, and even some out of state.



THIS is what "qualifications" look like.

"I am an engineer" is not.

Landscape engineer (Lawn boy)
Refuse Engineer (garbage man)
Computer engineer ( hacker )

Do you get the point?

If you search a little bit, you'll learn that I have more than 20 years experence in several technical domains.

You do not need to consider my qualifications to debunk my work, I do not use my qualifications to support my claims, so you should not too. I will not give more information about my qualifications; same as yours, they are meaningless.
 
In (mostly) the words of the great fictional detective Sherlock Holmes, "When you have eliminated the impossible hand waved alternatives as impossible, whatever remains you wish were true, however improbable, must be the truth".
 
If you search a little bit, you'll learn that I have more than 20 years experence in several technical domains.

You do not need to consider my qualifications to debunk my work, I do not use my qualifications to support my claims, so you should not too. I will not give more information about my qualifications; same as yours, they are meaningless.

Yeah but none of it makes you a scientist, does it.
 
The laughable thing is the "original chart" doesn't really show anything. There is no precise patterns.

mehmetin fails at the gate because he can't show what is so significant in his insignificant chart.


I'm going with my "translator messing with his head" theory.


:rolleyes:
 

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