Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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amb said:
What?? Progressive christians like Marcus Borg, Crossan, Shelby Spong and many others say that less than 20% of sayings attributed to Jesus were not uttered by him at all but were placed in his mouth by others.
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Hi there, Amb,

I think the comment was referring to your use of "internment" rather than "itinerant" that I assume you meant to write....

:)
 
DOC said:
Jimmy Hoffa wasn't killed in public and have a government guard put at his tomb. He also never appeared to at least 20 people after his supposed death, and then have people who knew him personally risk their lives on the claim he rose from the dead.
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So you'll be providing evidence that:
1. this 'Jesus' existed
2. that he was executed
3. that he was entombed
4. that this tomb was guarded by Roman soldiers (something most versions of your myth don't claim)
5. that he was somehow resurrected (and therefore you'll need to eliminate the possibility of trickery, fakery and deceit)
6. that he appeared to his followers after his alleged death

While you're at this you could provide the long awaited proof of your statement that
........Roman historians thought highly of Gospel writer Luke as an historian.
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which you made in this thread (post 15661) some 117 days ago.
 
Hey DOC, how come your god hates women so much ? After all, wasn't it him that created them?
 
DOC said:
No I don't believe that life came about by unintelligent random forces, I believe that the living all knowing God of the Bible created all life. Now enough about abiogenesis, although I should have the right to mention it if someone puts down faith -- because you shouldn't put down faith if you have it yourself.
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Christians shouldn't criticize Muslims then, right?
 
Garrette said:
You have proven there is a god. I had to edit my text before posting because I initially spelled it "beatles."
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I Know. I was watching. The smallest swallow and all that. Kinda in the job description.
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DOC said:
From Wiki on the historicity of Jesus:

...The majority of scholars who study early Christianity believe that the Gospels do contain some reliable information about Jesus,[7][8][9] agreeing that Jesus was a Jew who was regarded as a teacher and healer, that he was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman Prefect of Judaea, Pontius Pilate, on the charge of sedition against the Roman Empire...
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DOC said:
Strawman argument, I never said it did.
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Apart from the fact that you're simply demonstrating here that you haven't the foggiest notion of what a strawman argument is, the point remains, oh Ironicles, that your opinions are irrelevant. Where is your evidence?

My guess is that you had some but a weasel eated it.
 
joobz said:
This makes no sense as a response.
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Why does it make no sense, you didn't explain?

joobz said:
Than why claim athiests have faith?
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Because if you believe something without proof, you are basing your belief at least partially on faith.

joobz said:
It clearly is an attempt to belittle atheists.
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It is just stating a belief, and I gave a rational explanation for that belief, if you don't think it is rational then explain why.

joobz said:
So why do you not respect faith?
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I do respect faith because Jesus did, and the God of the Bible is the one who is going to decide the real reasons why each atheist has faith in non-Godly things and does not have faith in Him and judge accordingly.
 
DOC said:
Why does it make no sense, you didn't explain?



Because if you believe something without proof, you are basing your belief at least partially on faith.



It is just stating a belief, and I gave a rational explanation for that belief, if you don't think it is rational then explain why.



I do respect faith because Jesus did, and the God of the Bible is the one who is going to decide the real reasons why each atheist has faith in non-Godly things and does not have faith in Him and judge accordingly.
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Is that eviidence that the NT writers told the truth?
 
catsmate1 said:
So you'll be providing evidence that:
1. this 'Jesus' existed
2. that he was executed
3. that he was entombed
4. that this tomb was guarded by Roman soldiers (something most versions of your myth don't claim)
5. that he was somehow resurrected (and therefore you'll need to eliminate the possibility of trickery, fakery and deceit)
6. that he appeared to his followers after his alleged death

While you're at this you could provide the long awaited proof of your statement that
which you made in this thread (post 15661) some 117 days ago.
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I've already given evidence for 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and I didn't say this --

Roman historians thought highly of Gospel writer Luke as an historian

-- another source did, I notice you didn't say which post you got that quote from, maybe that would help if you did.
 
John Jones said:
Is that eviidence that the NT writers told the truth?
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Why don't skeptics ever say this when other people talked about tea and beer like they did for many posts a long time ago?

And you don't want me to answer Joobz questions? Damned if you do and damned if you don't I guess.
 
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