Calling all Boxcutter Conspiracy Theorists

It's not a speed-posting contest. Please look up the definition of "specific" and clarify the claim that you made in this thread. You didn't post a video of your claim, and I'm not going to look at a video for an explanation. Take your time. Please state what "my" government lied about with regards to one of the planes on 9/11.
 
carlitos said:
It's not a speed-posting contest. Please look up the definition of "specific" and clarify the claim that you made in this thread. You didn't post a video of your claim, and I'm not going to look at a video for an explanation. Take your time. Please state what "my" government lied about with regards to one of the planes on 9/11.
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I said they are lying SOBs. I could have been refering to any instant.

So tell me about the police officer eyewitnesses?
 
I have not posted in here for quite a while. I see the same old nonsense is being spewed by the fantasists. roscoe just FYI, it is in VERY poor taste to post 10 youtube videos as your evidence without summarizing them or even giving an opinion about them. This is just basic forum educate. As recommended by others, you need to sum up some key points in the videos that you would like to discuss. Anyone can go post a bunch of youtube videos on a forum and say "Haha I just owned you LOLL!!@!" When the reality is, you just made yourself look quite silly and incompetent. If you are truly interested in finding out some truth, you really should go about it a different way.

Now going from past experience here, the 3 minutes it took me to write a small paragraph will be followed up by something like this:

"HAHAH you JREF guys are suchSHILLS. Just watch the videoos and you will be BLOWN AWAYY. You JREFERS are so scarrred and always run away from the truthsss!"

Or my post will just simply be ignored. The way he responds to this post is a great example of why I no longer post in this forum.
 
Quad4_72 said:
I have not posted in here for quite a while. I see the same old nonsense is being spewed by the fantasists. roscoe just FYI, it is in VERY poor taste to post 10 youtube videos as your evidence without summarizing them or even giving an opinion about them. This is just basic forum educate. As recommended by others, you need to sum up some key points in the videos that you would like to discuss. Anyone can go post a bunch of youtube videos on a forum and say "Haha I just owned you LOLL!!@!" When the reality is, you just made yourself look quite silly and incompetent. If you are truly interested in finding out some truth, you really should go about it a different way.

Now going from past experience here, the 3 minutes it took me to write a small paragraph will be followed up by something like this:

"HAHAH you JREF guys are suchSHILLS. Just watch the videoos and you will be BLOWN AWAYY. You JREFERS are so scarrred and always run away from the truthsss!"

Or my post will just simply be ignored. The way he responds to this post is a great example of why I no longer post in this forum.
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Comment on the videos then. Attack me and you get attacked back.
 
roscoe_the_first said:
I said they are lying SOBs. I could have been refering to any instant.
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Right. You said this:

Not arguing there wasn't a plane. ... It just wasn't where your government says it was.
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Which is why I am asking you to clarify. Which plane did you mean? Where was it? Where did "my" government say it was?

Again, there is no rush. Just take a moment, collect your thoughts, and type them out here. You will find that, here at the JREF Forum, when you make a claim, people will ask for evidence. This is not considered impolite.

Similarly, on this forum, as noted above, you don't just post videos and "aha!" You are expected to summarize the key points.
 
roscoe_the_first said:
Who saw the plane hit the building? A simple question.
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Your police officer.

The Statements of Sgt. William Lagasse

Subject: 9-11
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:11:40 -0400
From: "Lagasse, William, , PFPA"
To: "'apfn@apfn.org '"


Dear Sir rest assured it was a Boeing 757 that flew into the building that
day, I was on duty as a pentagon police sgt. I was refueling my vehicle at
the barraks k gas station that day adjacent to the aircrafts flight path.
It was close enough that i could see the windows had the shades pulled down,
it struck several light poles next to rt 27 and struck a trailer used to
store construction equipment for the renovation of the pentagon that was to
the right of the fueselage impact point. The fact that you are insinuating
that this was staged and a fraud is unbelievable. You ask were the debris
is...well it was in the building..I saw it everywhere. I swear to god you
people piss me off to no end. I invite you and you come down and I will walk
you through it step by step. I have more than a few hours in general
aviation aircraft and can identify commercial airliners. Have you ever seen
photos of other aircraft accident photos...there usually isnt huge amounts
of debris left...how much did you see from the WTC?...are those fake
aircraft flying into the building. I know that this will make no diffrence
to you because to even have a websight like this you are obviously a
diffrent sort of thinker.
 
carlitos said:
Right. You said this:


Which is why I am asking you to clarify. Which plane did you mean? Where was it?
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Which No plane did I mean? Where was this No plane?

Nurse!!!!!! there's one over here.

carlitos said:
Where did "my" government say it was?
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erm! I think they said it was in the pentagon and it knocked down light poles. Except it couldn't have done.

carlitos said:
Again, there is no rush. Just take a moment, collect your thoughts, and type them out here. You will find that, here at the JREF Forum, when you make a claim, people will ask for evidence. This is not considered impolite.
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And I gave you evidence.

Tell me about the police eyewitnesses?

carlitos said:
Similarly, on this forum, as noted above, you don't just post videos and "aha!" You are expected to summarize the key points.
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Edited for civility
 
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rosco the first said:
I think they said it was in the pentagon and it knocked down light poles. Except it couldn't have done.
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It took you three pages to say which plane you meant. Congratulations for making an actual claim that we can discuss.

(deleted per Myriad's suggestion).
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Similarly, congratulations for losing the opportunity to discuss it with me.

I think that the "Police witnesses" are dealt with adequately above.
 
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16.5 said:
Your police officer.

The Statements of Sgt. William Lagasse

Subject: 9-11
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:11:40 -0400
From: "Lagasse, William, , PFPA"
To: "'apfn@apfn.org '"


Dear Sir rest assured it was a Boeing 757 that flew into the building that
day, I was on duty as a pentagon police sgt. I was refueling my vehicle at
the barraks k gas station that day adjacent to the aircrafts flight path.
It was close enough that i could see the windows had the shades pulled down,
it struck several light poles next to rt 27 and struck a trailer used to
store construction equipment for the renovation of the pentagon that was to
the right of the fueselage impact point. The fact that you are insinuating
that this was staged and a fraud is unbelievable. You ask were the debris
is...well it was in the building..I saw it everywhere. I swear to god you
people piss me off to no end. I invite you and you come down and I will walk
you through it step by step. I have more than a few hours in general
aviation aircraft and can identify commercial airliners. Have you ever seen
photos of other aircraft accident photos...there usually isnt huge amounts
of debris left...how much did you see from the WTC?...are those fake
aircraft flying into the building. I know that this will make no diffrence
to you because to even have a websight like this you are obviously a
diffrent sort of thinker.
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Firstly show me the letter. Anyone could have written this or altered it.

Secondly even if he did write this he couldn't have seen the plane fly into the pentagon from where he was standing. He, like you, assumed the plane flew into the pentagon.

Once again. Nobody but nobody saw any plane fly into the pentagon, they assumed it did because that is the easiest explanation for them to swallow.
 
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roscoe_the_first said:
May I introduce you all to something called:

EYEWITNESSESS

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Is this the illegitimate red-headed step-child baby of Craig and Aldo stopping in for a drive-by? I told them they should have practiced safe moonbattery! Now they have this thing they have to live with.
 
carlitos said:
It took you three pages to say which plane you meant. Congratulations for making an actual claim that we can discuss.

Similarly, congratulations for losing the opportunity to discuss it with me.

I think that the "Police witnesses" are dealt with adequately above.
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And I think they aren't. he's discussing what he believes not what he actually saw. He saw the plane fly to the north side of the CITCO building. This is inconsistent with the damage and the black box information.
 
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